highpeaklad
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AZ Incident At MAN Today

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:02 am

At 15.45 AZ260 an E 170 from MXP made a low level flypast with undercarriage down along runway 06L . 5 minutes later it landed with the fire engines in attendance. It pulled up in front of terminal 3 for a few minutes and was then escorted to its stand at terminal 2 by the fire service.
Anybody any info? Hydraulic/ undercarriage problems? Are Az having problems with their E170's? I think there have been cancelled flights reported on here.

Chris


ps. I think I must be jinxed. Last time I went to the aviation viewing park an Eastern Airways J31 made a single engine landing. Perhaps it would be best if I stop going !
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EZYAirbus
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:04 am

Maybe the gear wasnt indicating as locked down, so low level flypast for tower to look then confirm if gear was down or not.

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MANmatt
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:32 am

Quoting Highpeaklad (Thread starter):
Are Az having problems with their E170's?

AZ seem to be having quite a lot of problems with their 170s. Perhaps they should put the mad dogs (MD-87s) or 319s back on the route! The flights have been cancelled many a time lately, usually a result of the 170 going tech in MXP. There must be something wrong with just AZ'z aircraft as most other 170 operators haven't had this many problems with them, although LO have had a couple of cancelations in the past!

Matt
 
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:46 am

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 2):
Perhaps they should put the mad dogs (MD-87s) or 319s back on the route!

And then put the 170's where? they won't just park them, plus the fact that mad dogs (MD-82's, they don't have any 87's) or airbusses are more expensive to operate because they are bigger (more fuel....)
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MANmatt
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:54 am

Quoting JRadier (Reply 3):
(MD-82's, they don't have any 87's)

Sorry, after being up since 2am and working 12 hours, my memor slips a bit.

I was just thinking that AZ need to sort the 170s out. They are getting quite a bad reputation at MAN for not showing up. Many days i have seen a queue at the AZ ticket desk with pax waiting to be re-routed.

Matt
 
jetset7e7
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Sun Jan 08, 2006 7:17 am

I seen that happen just after we pushed our Monarch back, seemed weird, was going quite fast too. When I was walking back through security, I seen the fire service go to the end of 06L waiting for it to come back round.

This evening's AZ262 MXP-MAN, has been cancelled, so tomorrow's AZ263 won't depart, they could ferry in an aircraft though.

Mark
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speedbird19
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:52 am

They ferried in an aircraft this morning, EI-DFL, the old one was parked up with a burst front tyre, the nose wheel indicator wasnt showing as locked aparently, so the low level pass would of been for the ATC staff to see whether the front wheel had locked, but apparently it burst on landing. The AZ263 went on time this morning though  Wink
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:56 am

Quoting Highpeaklad (Thread starter):
I think I must be jinxed. Last time I went to the aviation viewing park an Eastern Airways J31 made a single engine landing. Perhaps it would be best if I stop going !

Let me know when you're next down, and I wont fly in Big grin only messin'  Wink

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jetset7e7
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:10 am

Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 6):
They ferried in an aircraft this morning, EI-DFL, the old one was parked up with a burst front tyre, the nose wheel indicator wasnt showing as locked aparently

'The old one' is EI-DFJ, its parked on 241 nose out, its actually the right hand side main gear inner tyre thats burst, looks a mess, went and had a little look today lol.
The low fly pass was to confirm wether the gear was down, as Speedbird19 said

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MANmatt
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:12 am

Claire, i had one of your passengers off yesterdays canx flight who really wasnt impressed with AZ yesterday. Had been re-rerouted via AMS to BOM with KL and NW!

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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:41 am

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 5):
This evening's AZ262 MXP-MAN, has been cancelled



Quoting Speedbird19 (Reply 6):
The AZ263 went on time this morning though

Not surprised as AZ262 arrived at 2116 on Saturday!

Anyway, there were 70-odd passengers and 4 crew on board the AZ260.

David
 
jetset7e7
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 10):
Not surprised as AZ262 arrived at 2116 on Saturday!

AZ262 is a nightstopper, STA 2130, AZ263 departs next day STD 0930, and normally doesn't go on time

Quoting David_itl (Reply 10):
Anyway, there were 70-odd passengers and 4 crew on board the AZ260.

The AZ E170 always has 4 crew, and the max load is 70, so you just approximated

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trekster
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:10 am

Jetset, were u pushing the Monarchs that were under the level 13 viewing area. Spotted em and apeople waling around, proberbly saw ya walking around. I was there to buy some badges to put on my work ties. Good to see AME there.

We must of just left there before it all happened. Hope all ok
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jetset7e7
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:23 am

Quoting Trekster (Reply 12):
Jetset, were u pushing the Monarchs that were under the level 13 viewing area. Spotted em and apeople waling around, proberbly saw ya walking around.

It was on G-MRJK on Saturday off stand 31, doing a charter to ALC. Which is right at the top of pier C if you look at it from level 13. Did you see the BD A330 G-WWBB on stand 26 while you were there? Had to replace a large part in the APU, a long delay on that.
Was on stand 24 this afternoon which is right under Level 13 basically, on G-OZBK to BCN.
Yeah TF-AME the old work horse back on SFB charters again.

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speedbird19
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:37 am

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 9):
Claire, i had one of your passengers off yesterdays canx flight who really wasnt impressed with AZ yesterday. Had been re-rerouted via AMS to BOM with KL and NW!

Sounds about right!!! They did a load of FIM's last night lol I was on this mornings with some of last night pax, they seemed happy though which was good!!!
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trekster
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:40 am

Im a prat. Did not look at the date this was posted. I was there today, not yesterday lol
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:26 pm

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 2):
There must be something wrong with just AZ'z aircraft as most other 170 operators haven't had this many problems with them, although LO have had a couple of cancelations in the past!

I disagree, and so do most UAL/UAX employees that have to handle the E170 in DEN and in ORD. Seems like every other flight there is some probel with the plane...they came up with a nickname for it in DEN...but I cant recall what it was.
 
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:53 pm

I really feel sorry for AZ at times - they don't seem to have a great deal of luck with these aircraft, or many things, come to think about it.

What I don't really understand is how one airline can struggle with a certain type, perhaps I could understand it if they were difficult to maintain, but I would assume they won't be?

Poor Alitalia have everything go wrong for them - hopefully one day they will sort all their problems out.

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jetset7e7
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:03 am

The aircraft EI-DFJ, looks to be staying at MAN for a bit, its actually parked in between 2 stands 241 and 243, as it was pushed straight back from stand 213, the supervisor on shift at the time told me, that the right main gear was moving about a lot when it was being pushed back, so seems its damaged the landing gear as well as damaging a tyre.

Mark
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David_itl
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RE: AZ Incident At MAN Today

Tue Jan 10, 2006 4:00 am

Well I hope the BACX engineers get a nice look at it as I would like them to get a new fleet of tech aircraft to play with - they must be sick to death by now of having to deal the daily problems with the DHC8 and ERJ145!

David