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Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:50 pm

I keep hearing rumors of a BIG UA announcement in Feb. Anyone have any idea what it's about?
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:53 pm

Quoting UAORD2000 (Thread starter):
I keep hearing rumors of a BIG UA announcement in Feb. Anyone have any idea what it's about?

Liquidation...?? You can't keep loosing millions every month...?
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:54 pm

Here we go again  Yeah sure

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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:55 pm

Well they are planning to exit bankruptcy in February. That's a fairly big announcement in of itself.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:59 pm

I'm usually not one to pay any attention to rumors but I've never heard so many people talk about it before. I don't mean to stir things up but i was wondering if anyone could shed a little light. Merger?!?!?!?!?
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:14 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Liquidation...?? You can't keep loosing millions every month...?

You guys just won't let it go...well, UA isn't going anywhere in the short term except out of the bankruptcy court. GET OVER IT!

If you're gonna hate on an airline, why not pick one that's actually got a good chance of not making it (NW)?

Quoting UAORD2000 (Reply 4):
Merger?!?!?!?!?

Merger talks would have leaked by now, it ain't gonna happen anytime soon, if ever.

[Edited 2006-01-08 06:16:24]
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:22 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 5):
Merger talks would have leaked by now, it ain't gonna happen anytime soon, if ever.

You sure about that? I think a merger is a longshot; however, I don't doubt that United could keep it a total secret.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:25 pm

Quoting UAORD2000 (Reply 6):
You sure about that? I think a merger is a longshot; however, I don't doubt that United could keep it a total secret.

Anybody does, just remember "Operation Tobacco Road" (if I remember correctly, that's what it was called)
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:37 pm

How about exit from BK and new orders for aircraft?

Launch customer for the A350 and/or the 747-800?
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:49 pm

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Liquidation...?? You can't keep loosing millions every month...?

beat me to it....
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:50 pm

Quoting OOer (Reply 8):
Launch customer for the A350 and/or the 747-800?

The A350 doesn't do a very good job of replacing 767s, and is too big to be used next to the 777 (which UA isn't getting rid of anytime soon). I don't understand why people think UA will fly A350s, the 787 makes more sense in their fleet than in any other airline's (besides DL maybe).

748 is possible, but probably not until later. A 787 announcement is very possible, although I'd expect it later in the year, if this year at all.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:59 pm

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 9):
beat me to it....

Kind of Ironic coming from you eh?


Im sure the announcement is just them coming out of bankruptcy
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:04 pm

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 11):

Kind of Ironic coming from you eh?

That's what I was going to say with Northwest in his name, lol.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:10 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 5):
You guys just won't let it go...well, UA isn't going anywhere in the short term except out of the bankruptcy court. GET OVER IT!

It's sad that facts are being overlooked, but I do agree fully with you, Scott. Welcome to my respected user's list!

UA is coming out from BK and that's a FACT. The creditors have approved their plan and a confirmation hearing is set for this month. So, UA is nowhere near liquidation, and that's a well known FACT. Though I guess this big announcement could be a potential aircraft order. Who knows what the future of the post Chapter 11-UA will have in store.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:30 pm

Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 11):
Kind of Ironic coming from you eh?

HAHAHA i knew someone would say something about that...I know NW is going to hell in a hand basket why not take UA along for the ride
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:34 pm

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 14):
HAHAHA i knew someone would say something about that...I know NW is going to hell in a hand basket why not take UA along for the ride

Because it was an ignorant statement to make? I hate UA with a passion (other than channel 9).... but it is just dumb to say they are going to liquidate when....
http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/united03.html
http://today.reuters.com/business/ne..._0_BUSINESSPRO-AIRLINES-UAL-DC.XML
...their exit plan has been approved and they are mere weeks away from being out of bankruptcy.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 10:27 pm

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 5):
You guys just won't let it go...well, UA isn't going anywhere in the short term except out of the bankruptcy court. GET OVER IT!

Tell ya what.. I work with two fomer UAL employees that feel a lot strong then I do. After 18 years... "Here's your pick slip.. bye-bye..."
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:55 pm

Quoting Reuters:
"Fundamentally, the airline is obscenely strong. The future belongs to legacy carriers like United," airline consultant Michael Boyd said.

That kind of says it all doesn't it?

Anyhow my guess is that they will formally announce the cabin upgrades. Show pictures and announce winners of the bid (from the RFB for new seats).

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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:55 am

It'll be UA coming out of bankruptcy. From a strictly financial standpoint, this will be the biggest news the industry as seen in a while, as it will have a rather interesting short to medium effect on the industry in aggregate in the markets. Also, for those who sit behind the desks in the airline industry, no news could be bigger - cabin upgrades, although probably more interesting for us aviation enthusiasts, is realtivly minor news in the context of wider business news.

Also - and trust me, this is what I do for a living - a merger would have leaked a while ago. Honestly, you can tell when something like that is going to happen simply by observing the stock of an individual airline or airlines in relation to the industry - the market catches everything.

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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:03 am

One thing that comes to mind is some sort of something with CO.

UA is planning on coming out of bankruptcy in Feburary (and good for them - it's about time!), and Bethune has repeatedly stated publicly how well a UA/CO combination would work.

This is all merely me just hypothesizing, but maybe UA is planning on announcing some sort of agreement/merger/major, huge codeshare with CO that falls in conjunction with their exiting bankruptcy.

Unless there was something going on behind the scenes, Bethune wouldn't just be making these blatant, public comments about mergers and the like.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:29 am

Cory, I think you're hitting on the fact that there is a good chance of some sort of partnership between UA and CO in the coming years. Generally speaking though, when CEO chatter occurs, its like a "mating call." It means the cards have been placed on the table, and hopefully someone else will pick up one of the hands. When a merger/partnership/business agreement is immenent, CEOs will get quiet or run the risk of getting all sides of a deal in trouble.

Check out CO in the markets http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=CAL While they've had a hell of a run in the last 52 weeks, it has been relativly stable, with the rise in value appearing to correlate directly to performance versus the rest of the industry. A telltale sign of a pending agreement is a large volume of shares trading over a period of a few days with no news to account for it. If you click around in yahoo finance or bloomberg, you will find that there are a few days where a large volume of shares changed hands, but it was directly related to the filing of financial reports (10-Q's, 8-K's) or analyst opinion. That being said, if you catch something I didn't, let me know!

If CO and UA do make some sort of announcement, next beer's on me. I'm guessing though, that that is something we'll see in the near future. I'm sticking with the "exiting bankruptcy" story. Really not sexy at all, but my best guess.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:38 am

I really doubt UA is going be buying A350s, seeing as they are one of Boeing's most consistant customers on longbodies. It was UA who laid down the specs for 777, heck, 737 having engines under the wings was to satisfy a UA requirement. I was mindblown when they bought 320s to start replacing their 737 fleet, but when they did this, 320 did blow the doors off 733. I could see them purchasing a dreamliner fleet, more when, not if. I'm sure feb. is just their exit from bankruptcy. I will admit to hating UA, they are almost as bad of an airline, both from a corporate and pax standpoint as NW. I'm not seeing a merger with CO, have you forgotten NWA and CO pseudo merged about 5 years back, when they did a large asset swap, and have been slowly integrating each others routemaps and networks since. I'm not seeing NW going for a merger with arch-rival UA. As far as legacy carriers go though, no one can compete with AA.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:23 am

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 10):
The A350 doesn't do a very good job of replacing 767s, and is too big to be used next to the 777 (which UA isn't getting rid of anytime soon). I don't understand why people think UA will fly A350s, the 787 makes more sense in their fleet than in any other airline's (besides DL maybe).

I think the 787 makes more sense to CO than anybody else. The aircraft suits their extensive marginal yield euro routes perfectly.

Why is it so unthinkable for United to order A350? Many of their European routes are a juggling game between 763 and 772. Wouldn't the A350 fit those routes pretty well?

Good luck to UA, they are a fine airline. I travelled LHR-SFO-DEN-LGA and JFK-LHR last year and had no complaints.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Wah64d (Reply 22):
I think the 787 makes more sense to CO than anybody else. The aircraft suits their extensive marginal yield euro routes perfectly.

IMHO, the 787 would suit CO more than UA, however, when it comes to an airline that the 787 was practically made for, it's DL. They fly 763s around the world (obviously eastward bound)... They'll need replacing in 10 years or so! Smile
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:44 am

Quoting Wah64d (Reply 22):
Why is it so unthinkable for United to order A350? Many of their European routes are a juggling game between 763 and 772. Wouldn't the A350 fit those routes pretty well?

UA sends in the 763s when loads are light (off-peak travel) and the 772s when loads are heavy (peak travel). An A358/A359 would force them to fly empty seats during the off-peak periods (or sell seats at heavy discount, eroding yields). Also, I expect a 787-3 will offer better economics for Hawaii travel then an A358, as well as the intra-hub shuttles (LAX/SFO-DEN/ORD).

So the 787 family offers more flexability:

  • 787-3 for Hawaii and intra-hub shuttles
  • 787-8/787-9 for 763ER replacement on low-traffic international flights
  • 787-10 for 772ER replacement on high-traffic international flights

And the 787 also offers some cockpit commonality with the 773ER and 748I, which allows UA to upgauge capacity more flexably, as well.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:47 am

Speaking of United annoucements, they just left me a voicemail letting me know of a sched change in March. Intead of 83 minutes between planes at ORD, I have have 189 minutes.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:53 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 24):
UA sends in the 763s when loads are light (off-peak travel) and the 772s when loads are heavy (peak travel). An A358/A359 would force them to fly empty seats during the off-peak periods (or sell seats at heavy discount, eroding yields). Also, I expect a 787-3 will offer better economics for Hawaii travel then an A358, as well as the intra-hub shuttles (LAX/SFO-DEN/ORD).

So the 787 family offers more flexability:



787-3 for Hawaii and intra-hub shuttles

787-8/787-9 for 763ER replacement on low-traffic international flights

787-10 for 772ER replacement on high-traffic international flights


And the 787 also offers some cockpit commonality with the 773ER and 748I, which allows UA to upgauge capacity more flexably, as well.

Your points are well presented and make sense. I don't think there's a great deal in it though. Dependant on financing, I think the A350 could well work out better for UA than 788/9 on the European routes.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:11 am

Quoting Wah64d (Reply 22):
I think the 787 makes more sense to CO than anybody else. The aircraft suits their extensive marginal yield euro routes perfectly.

CO did not order the 787 to fly to Europe, their oldest 767s are 5-6 years old. They are buying the 787-800 to fly to Secondary Asian Cities.

IAH-
Beijing, Nagoya

EWR-
Seoul, Osaka, Taipei etc..

The 787 would operate in a similar manner for UAL, opening up new Asian markets that the 747 and 777 are too large for such as..

SFO-
Seoul (year round), Manila, Fukuoka, Sapporo, Auckland etc..
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:16 am

Quoting WAH64D (Reply 26):
Your points are well presented and make sense. I don't think there's a great deal in it though. Dependant on financing, I think the A350 could well work out better for UA than 788/9 on the European routes.

If UA can increase traffic to Europe and Asia, absolutely.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:34 am

How about a exit from Chp 11. They are hiring 1,000 new flight attendants. Maybe (long shot) a merger with DL or NW? Doubtful though, as stated, merger talks would have leaked by now. Possible fleet consolidation?

Quoting OOer (Reply 8):
Launch customer for the A350 and/or the 747-800?

UA Management has preached their commitments to Boeing for long haul and Airbus for short haul. They are happy with this set up. I can't see UA ordering A350 ever.

Quoting STT757 (Reply 27):
Auckland

Does CO have rights to fly to AKL?
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting FXramper (Reply 29):
Does CO have rights to fly to AKL?

all US airlines have rights to fly anywhere in New Zealand they want from anywhere in the States at whatever frequency /capacity and price they like - we have an open skies agreement with you  Smile
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 3:41 am

Maybe they have a new CEO in February and his name is Kerry SKeen!  flamed 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:46 am

Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 10):
the 787 makes more sense in their fleet than in any other airline's (besides DL maybe).

What about AA? Pretty sure they want to dump thos A300's but without losing out on cargo, 787 can do that.


Onto UA. As sad as its to see in a so called "Capitalist" economy, UA will stay alive because of the their BK judge and overall political pressures. If DH even had 1/3 of the help and giveaways UA has they'd still be flying. But the fat cats have spoken. UA will stay. The Feb annoucement I doubt is BK exit, they've planned a feb exit for the 3rd year in a row, now if that doesn't say something, well you may need help. It most likely is an announcement on redefining International service.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:54 am

Feb March going to be a lot news from UAL I would think. Yup..exiting Chapt 11 will be one...replacement for Tilton will be another...new aircraft deal will be another...the fleet refurb....and expansion again of TED. The CO buyout won't be one of them which I guess will disappoint the CO CFO... Smile

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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:54 am

To all who say United is going to fly the way of the dodo bird, sharpen your financial analysis skills. Apart from the Reuters article where United is assessed as being "obscenely strong", United has quietly been making a profit at the operating level, that is before all bankruptcy related writedowns of pensions, aircraft lease obligations and the like. These are all "paper" writedowns and say nothing about operations. United will come out of bankruptcy and I think will surprise everyone. Buy shares now, they are only $1 apiece. CO and AM trade in the $20 range. Why should they be any different? UA is in BK but will come out.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:01 am

Quoting LAX2IADandORD (Reply 34):
Buy shares now, they are only $1 apiece

WHOA...Do not buy exisiting shares of UAL...read the company's annual reports and filings with the SEC. the current stock will be canceled upon exit...worth nothing..zippo..nada....

There is a new issue that will come out upon exit is what they are saying and current shareholders get nothing but a certificate to hang on the wall.

Can I sell you shares in a bridge??

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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:09 am

Quoting Hiflyer (Reply 35):
Can I sell you shares in a bridge??

I'll take the offer if it's a bridge that collects tolls!  Silly
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:13 am

Quoting STT757 (Reply 27):
CO did not order the 787 to fly to Europe, their oldest 767s are 5-6 years old

Sorry to go off on a tangent from the topic at hand, but I didn't realize this. Did the 762 fleet come online at CO at the same time as the 764 fleet?
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting Galapagapop (Reply 32):
What about AA? Pretty sure they want to dump thos A300's but without losing out on cargo, 787 can do that.

AA would be a prime contendor for the 787-3 as an A300 replacement, and 787-8 for replacing the 763s.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:17 am

Quoting OOer (Reply 8):
Launch customer for the A350

US Airways is the American launch customer for the A350.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:20 am

I wish UA good luck with any plans they might have to be announced in feb.
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:27 am

United exiting bankruptcy is a big announcement. Haven't they been bankrupt for years? I remember in late 2003 a BBC World program said that 2004 would see a major change and that at least one of the US major would be out of business. They said that when filming a United plane flying into the sunset.....
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:41 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 30):

all US airlines have rights to fly anywhere in New Zealand they want from anywhere in the States at whatever frequency /capacity and price they like - we have an open skies agreement with you

Thanks for the info.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:57 am

Quoting NWA757boy (Reply 9):
beat me to it....

Do we need to discuss NEWCO sir? Get over yourself and get a clue. UAL to exit in Feb. NWA has not aligned DIP financing and the trigger for liquidation is creeping extremely close to your back door. Now go throw some more stones inside your glass house. Your attitude and lack of maturity befit the rank of NWA people I have met over the years. Glad to see you remind me of why I dislike the American version of Aeroflot.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 16):
Tell ya what.. I work with two fomer UAL employees that feel a lot strong then I do. After 18 years... "Here's your pick slip.. bye-bye..."

A pick slip? Pick what your nostril? Furloughs happen. The industry changed and the folks that can not adapt wind up wrenching on RJ's.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 43):
Glad to see you remind me of why I dislike the American version of Aeroflot.

That's an amusingly fitting description of Northwest.

I recently flew from Syracuse, NY to San Francisco, and made the mistake of taking a chance on NWA (I'm usually a United customer). What a miserable experience.

I was appalled that their jallopy DC-9s are still in service, and the flight attendants were so old, bitter and downright rude. I will never fly with NWA again.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:33 am

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 43):
A pick slip? Pick what your nostril? Furloughs happen. The industry changed and the folks that can not adapt wind up wrenching on RJ's.

Pink Slip...

Why are you blaming them for something management caused...??

[Edited 2006-01-09 00:33:51]
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:42 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 37):
Sorry to go off on a tangent from the topic at hand, but I didn't realize this. Did the 762 fleet come online at CO at the same time as the 764 fleet?

Yes. CO's 762's were probably the first -200's built in at least 5 years, if not more.

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 41):
I remember in late 2003 a BBC World program said that 2004 would see a major change and that at least one of the US major would be out of business. They said that when filming a United plane flying into the sunset.....

Hey that's great too bad it was probably only for effect and several people bought into it as an actual prediction...

Quoting Mcdu (Reply 43):
Glad to see you remind me of why I dislike the American version of Aeroflot.

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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:50 am

Quoting LAX2IADandORD (Reply 34):
Buy shares now, they are only $1 apiece. CO and AM trade in the $20 range. Why should they be any different?

NO, DO NOT BUY UALAQ, the stock is going to be worthless when/if they come out of Bankruptcy. Wait until they have emerged from BK and their NEW STOCK is trading, that is the stock you might want to buy, look at LCC since they purchased/merged with US, stocks been on a tear.

As a sidenote, according to your profile you are a CPA, you should know that UALAQ is going to be worthless in any scenario that UA faces.
 
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting DLKAPA (Reply 46):
Hey that's great too bad it was probably only for effect and several people bought into it as an actual prediction...

I did hope so. I had almost an tear in my Eye.  Smile
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RE: Big United Announcement?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:28 am

Quoting Vegasplanes (Reply 47):
As a sidenote, according to your profile you are a CPA, you should know that UALAQ is going to be worthless in any scenario that UA faces

The shares do not just disappear they are reorganized and assembled and packaged with the new shares. I thought everyone learned this with the Mercury Finance reorganization in the late 1990s. Based on the number of a bankruptcy shares you own, you are reapportioned new shares in the company.
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