Simpilicity
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299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Sun Jan 08, 2006 11:33 pm

yes Austravel (Thomson Fly aircraft) 299-499 pounds return(round trip for the sepos out there) (+ taxes/charges) LGW/PER & LGW/SYD !!! That's approx. USD$534-891 !!!

How do they make any money at these prices? LGW/SYD is long !!!!

OK, so they have lot of seats on their 762ER's, but they also have to do 2 stops DBX & SIN I believe.

They are also selling one ways for only 149 pounds (+t/c) !!!
 
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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:41 am

Do these flights have a Business/First Class cabin? If they do, that's where they'll make their money. If not, they'll make their money off of last minute tickets. That 499 fare may become a 700 or 800 pound fare then......
 
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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 12:47 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 1):
That 499 fare may become a 700 or 800 pound fare then......

I randomly looked for a one-way flight to SYD on 16th Jan. £219 with T.F. Not bad.
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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:37 am

Quoting Simpilicity (Thread starter):
299-499 pounds return(round trip for the sepos out there) (+ taxes/charges)



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
I randomly looked for a one-way flight to SYD on 16th Jan. £219 with T.F. Not bad.

Well that's £480 return on a charter flight, we paid only £40 more to fly to AKL on Cathay Pacific next week (including all taxes). SQ were charging £600 including taxes. There's certainly not much in it, and given the choice for a 24 hour flight I'd sooner go for the comfort of CX/SQ than the cramped Thomson.

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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:49 am

I'd imagine a lot of money is people who look at the website of the airline offering the fare, find it not available, but book with the airline anyway, as they either think that said airline is the cheapest, or because they see the facilities the airline offer. Most airlines make money from those in the front cabin more than those in the back.

This may not apply to Thomsonfly, but as the aircraft is chartered (I think), the company who chartered the aircraft will probably pay TF a certain amount per passenger, and Thomsonfly can sell the remaining seats at a loss.
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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:14 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 1):
If they do, that's where they'll make their money. If not, they'll make their money off of last minute tickets. That 499 fare may become a 700 or 800 pound fare then......

very small premium class & 499 pound is highest round trip fare. They don't have a high last minute fare. They drop the fare until they sell out I guess, but it seems only weekly departures to PER & SYD, so the last minute specials would be fixed itinerary.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 2):
I randomly looked for a one-way flight to SYD on 16th Jan. £219 with T.F. Not bad.

That's probably with all taxes is it?

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 4):
the company who chartered the aircraft will probably pay TF a certain amount per passenger, and Thomsonfly can sell the remaining seats at a loss.

Do u mean, a certain amount per seat regardless of whether sold or not?

Quoting Noelg (Reply 3):
Well that's £480 return on a charter flight, we paid only £40 more to fly to AKL on Cathay Pacific next week (including all taxes). SQ were charging £600 including taxes.

You're not comparing apples with apples!!! We not talking for a few seats, we're talking for the whole aircraft or the whole of Y class !!! Scheduled carriers tend to have dozen of fares & booking classes for the same route/destination, depending on when pruchased, flexibility etc.
 
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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:05 pm

Thompsonfly is advertising AUD$130 one way to London from PER/SYD!
Thats what, 50 pounds. If i wasnt already going to the UK in a few weeks, I would have booked it and gone for a long weekend.
 
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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 7:28 pm

And then me and the missus are flying PER-BHX in July and returning in August and we can't find a single fare much less than AUD$2500, excluding Royal Brunei. Which converts to roughly GBP1000!!

It makes a huge difference what time of the year, you travel to the UK. I can't find anything reasonably priced.

Their are quite a few adverts in the media here with 'cheap fares', but by the time you factor in taxes/fuel levy/security fees it isn't any cheaper!!

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RE: 299-499 Pounds Return UK/OZ-how Do U Make Money?

Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:24 pm

Quoting Chrjuk (Reply 6):
Thompsonfly is advertising AUD$130 one way to London from PER/SYD!
Thats what, 50 pounds. If i wasnt already going to the UK in a few weeks, I would have booked it and gone for a long weekend.

Where is that being advertised?