fly_yhm
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NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:51 pm

Ok I have never seen anything like this on Airliners.net? Anyway here it goes. At Tokyo Narita are there more Boeing Airliners of Airbus? I know its an odd question.

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 12:55 pm

I would say Boeing. I was in Narita this summer, and I saw most of the planes were 747 and 777.

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:03 pm

Consider the fleets of the primary operators there.

JAL: 747 & 777
ANA: 747 & 777
NWA: 747

747's then other boeings, then airbuses
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:14 pm

Just curious, why the question?
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:29 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Consider the fleets of the primary operators there.

JAL: 747 & 777
ANA: 747 & 777
NWA: 747

I would say NWA does operate 330s as well, isn't it?


However, I also think that there are far more Boeings in NRT than Airbus. This goes for most major Japanese Airports.

However, if not mistaken, I would say more International airlines fly into NRT using Airbus than Boeing. Eg LH, LX, OS, SK etc. (CI, MH, QF, PK, TG, KE, PR etc. from time to time).
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:29 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Consider the fleets of the primary operators there.

JAL: 747 & 777
ANA: 747 & 777
NWA: 747

Don't forget UAL - 747 and 777.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 1:14 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
747's then other boeings, then airbuses

From what I have seen in the last few years, it looks like there are more 777s than 747 these days.

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
However, if not mistaken, I would say more International airlines fly into NRT using Airbus than Boeing. Eg LH, LX, OS, SK etc. (CI, MH, QF, PK, TG, KE, PR etc. from time to time).

I think you are mistaken here. From what I have seen (1-2 times every year) most airlines are using 777s and 747s. There are some 340s and 330s, but not very many.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:10 am

And AA has a nice multi-777 operation there, 6 a day I think. CO runs three.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:19 am

Quoting AvFan4ever (Reply 3):
Just curious, why the question?

Flying through the next month and have a layover on the return and from where I am from im used to mostly A320s and 737 with a few widebodies boeing and airbus.

I really want to go to an airport that is full of 747s and 777s.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:34 am

Before the introduction of A340/B777s...I would say during the early to mid 1990s the amount of NRT's B747 traffic was something like 90% of all traffic....Just leaving very small room for DC10/B767/L1011/A300...then the opening of the second runway came and the airlines started to fly smaller equipment there...

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:56 am

This is Easy!! It's Boeing by far. Was just there last week and it was full of 747's and 777's.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:49 am

Way more Boeings. JAL and ANA. Also United, Korean, AA, SQ, BA. Sometimes you'll see NWA or CX Airbuses, but even they are mostly Boeings. Other carriers may have both, but still more Boeings.

Over the years I've seen a marked evolution from nuthin' but 747s, to many more twins.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:56 am

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):

I would say NWA does operate 330s as well, isn't it?

Yes they do, but I have never seen them operate one at NRT so I left it off the list.

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 5):
Don't forget UAL - 747 and 777.

Can't believe I forgot UAL at NRT... I must have been repressing their terminal  Smile
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:02 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 12):
Yes they do, but I have never seen them operate one at NRT so I left it off the list.

Is not the PDX flight operated by the 330
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:25 pm

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 12):
Yes they do, but I have never seen them operate one at NRT so I left it off the list.



Quoting Reyes27 (Reply 13):
Is not the PDX flight operated by the 330

NRT-SEA and NRT-PDX on NW are both A330s.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:10 pm

You can have a look here to get an idea of the type used at NRT.

http://www.narita-airport.or.jp/ais/flightall/e_inter_dep.html

A quick count give the following:

4 B757
35 B767
69 B747
49 B777
1 DC10

2 A320
1 A321
3 A300-600
16 A330
8 A340

You have to go to the deck on terminal 1. It's an amazing place! Enjoy the widebodies...

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:14 pm

Quoting Fly_yhm (Reply 8):
Flying through the next month and have a layover on the return and from where I am from im used to mostly A320s and 737 with a few widebodies boeing and airbus

Have a great trip! You will enjoy seeing all the widebodies. As per JumboForever's post, the majority at NRT are Boeing, but there are plenty of Airbus operators to keep things interesting.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:53 pm

As previous posters, mostly 747-400s and 777s. A fair smattering of 767s. Perhaps the very occasional Russian jet too.

About a year or two ago you would have been treated to many more DC10s (NW, JL) as well as a few 747 Classics (JL, ANA, AI, KE etc). Iran Air still occasionally use the 747 Sp to NRT from Tehran, though more often it's the A300 (or maybe 310??) these days. NW 330s aren't rare and last time I was at NRT I was treated to the sight of an NW DC10 going on to HKG.

T1 obs deck is brilliant. Views to the runway are grat; though it's always NW and UA parked right in front of it. The more interesting airlines use T2, though unfortunately, there's no really good view points inside T2.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 3:51 am

All I can say is just look at a few of the pics in the database and you will quickly see that Boeing is all over NRT.


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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 4:33 am

Quoting Fly_yhm (Reply 8):
I really want to go to an airport that is full of 747s and 777s.

NRT will not disappoint. It's so full of them, that you will be looking for other planes just for a change!

Quoting JumboForever (Reply 15):
You have to go to the deck on terminal 1. It's an amazing place! Enjoy the widebodies...

Yep, sits over the NW connection area and has great views of runways and taxiways. Buy some red bean ice cream from the little shop there and enjoy.

Also AA Admirals Club has some decent views.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:32 am

Quoting JumboForever (Reply 15):
You can have a look here to get an idea of the type used at NRT.

http://www.narita-airport.or.jp/ais/....html

O.o

oddd..

I'm certain that AA5820 wasn't operating a 744...
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:42 am

NRT is very restricted and Boeing has the largest aircraft at the moment. So airlines operate the biggest plane they have. It's that simple.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 6:52 am

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 21):
So airlines operate the biggest plane they have. It's that simple.

Yeah. Not that simple or JL and NH wouldn't be flying so many 772s and 773s in there when they have 747s they could be using. NW also flies the 330 there when they could be using 747s on all segments, UA flies 772s when they could be flying 747s, etc.

Airlines fly the plane suitable for the route and the mission, not just the biggest ones they have. I know, the A380 business case is predicated on the idea that all routes are better off with the biggest, lowest CASM plane possible, but it's not true, even at NRT.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:06 am

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
Quoting MDorBust (Reply 2):
Consider the fleets of the primary operators there.

JAL: 747 & 777
ANA: 747 & 777
NWA: 747

I would say NWA does operate 330s as well, isn't it?

Don't forget 757's
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:12 am

Don't forget that all but one flight by an Air Hong Kong A300 are all Boeing (MD) freighters.
JL - 74F
KZ/NH - 74F, 76F
NW - 74F
FX - M1F
CX, MH, AF, PO, KE, 5X, SQ - 74F
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:59 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 20):
O.o

oddd..

I'm certain that AA5820 wasn't operating a 744...

It's a code share flight operated by JAL hence the 744.

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 10):
What can I say, Boeing is the way to go.

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 10:45 am

Thanks everyone for the great replies and the few photos.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Fri Jan 13, 2006 9:10 pm

Quoting JumboForever (Reply 15):
http://www.narita-airport.or.jp/ais/flightall/e_inter_dep.html

looking at this page shows the shear number of 767s, A300/310/330s flying into NRT, as well as 772s, and even a few 737, 757, and A320. Sure, there are a lot of 747s, but not really more than a lot of other airports (like LAX, for instance). For a slot restricted airport like NRT, one would expect more 747s if there really was a shortage of seats into NRT. There obviously is no shortage of seats...
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
I would say NWA does operate 330s as well, isn't it?

The daily flight to NRT from PDX is an A330.
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:49 am

Quoting GEEDO (Reply 29):

The daily flight to NRT from PDX is an A330.

so is the daily flight from SFO...


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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:55 am

...and quite a few of their intra-Asia routes.

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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:03 am

Don't forget AC also flies into NRT with mix of 767-300ER, once awhile A330-300 and mostly A340-300.
 
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RE: NRT-Boeing Or Airbus?

Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:06 am

Quoting GEEDO (Reply 29):
The daily flight to NRT from PDX is an A330.

do they have to take it down off the pylon before they use it?
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