WINGS
Topic Author
Posts: 2312
Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 1:36 am

Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:25 pm

Its now official people. Boeing has released their delivery numbers for 2005. 290 deliveries in 2005 despite a four week machinist strike.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10792890/

BOEING DELIVERIES

2005 290 Frames
2004 285 Frames
2003 281 Frames

FOURTH QUARTER DELIVERY'S

B717- 4 Frames
B737- 52 Frames
B747- 4 Frames
B767-3 Frames
B777-10 frames

TOTAL 73 Frames

Regards,
Wings
Aviation Is A Passion.
 
Oykie
Posts: 1563
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:21 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:28 pm

How many planes was their initial target before the strike last year?
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
 
User avatar
PanAm_DC10
Crew
Posts: 3795
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2000 7:37 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:03 pm

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 1):
How many planes was their initial target before the strike last year?

320 was their guidance prior to the September strike. So they delivered 30 less than expected and they still need to deliver an extra 30 over the next year depending upon productivity gains and production rate increases.

The company surprised many industry analysts a couple of months ago when Boeing Chairman and Chief Executive W. James McNerney Jr. said about 30 jets whose delivery was delayed by a four-week Machinists strike in September would not be fully made up until after 2006.

"I feel very good about our production rate increase plan," Mulally said. "It reflects all our lesson learned from the past. We have a very disciplined commitment and compliance process. ... We decided three times not to increase production rates faster. That's why we are not making up those 30 planes until we are absolutely on our way to making these rates changes, and then we will look later about going up even higher."

As you can see they are working on making up on what they failed to deliver due to the Machinist strike whilst managing their supply chain to cope with their planned production increases for 2006 onwards.

Regards, PanAm_DC10

Source for Mr McNerney's and Mr Mulally's comments;

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/business/252737_mulally20.html
Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
 
User avatar
scbriml
Posts: 13239
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:37 pm

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:10 pm

It's not a bad total given they basically lost a whole month's production. Just pro-rata up for 12 months would give 316. Would that have been close to their original target?

By reasonable way of comparison, Airbus's total to end November was 337 and could hit 370 for the full year.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana!
 
User avatar
PanAm_DC10
Crew
Posts: 3795
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2000 7:37 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:13 pm

For those whom are interested as to how many deliveries Airbus and Boeing expect to make in 2006 the following fair use excerpt should provide an insight;

By James Gunsalus
Jan. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Boeing Co., the No. 2 maker of commercial airplanes, said jet deliveries rose 1.8 percent to 290 last year and will jump to 395 this year as improving economies spur global demand from low-cost carriers and leasing companies.


Boeing's top three customers were ILFC, Southwest and Ryanair in that order

We still have to wait until the 17th for Airbus' final total's but per the report;

Airbus had said it would deliver 370 planes in 2005 and forecast deliveries of more than 400 aircraft this year. It plans to announce 2005 order and delivery totals on Jan. 17.

Regards, PanAm_DC10
Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
 
Oykie
Posts: 1563
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:21 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:42 pm

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 2):
320 was their guidance prior to the September strike

Thank You PanAm_DC10. Do you know their planned number for 2006? I think McNerny is wise not to step up production to fast, so that Boeing gets the shortage they got the last time.

On a sidenote: Did PanAm buy those DC-10 first hand from Douglas first hand? I was not aware that they used them.
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
 
User avatar
PanAm_DC10
Crew
Posts: 3795
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2000 7:37 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 5):
Thank You PanAm_DC10. Do you know their planned number for 2006? I think McNerny is wise not to step up production to fast, so that Boeing gets the shortage they got the last time.

You're correct with your assessment OyKIE I also believe the same applied to Mr Mulally whom replaced Mr Woodward for the 1997 debacle as referenced in the article. Initial guidance for Boeing's 2006 deliveries is 395 frames.

Quoting OyKIE (Reply 5):
On a sidenote: Did PanAm buy those DC-10 first hand from Douglas first hand? I was not aware that they used them.

They acquired them via their merger with National.

Regards, PanAm_DC10
Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible
 
User avatar
garpd
Posts: 2308
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:29 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:04 pm

290 eh
Quite a lacklustre result, when compared to the record breaking order fest.

But then, they basically lost an entire month. So perhaps the number is not too bad considering that.
arpdesign.wordpress.com
 
WINGS
Topic Author
Posts: 2312
Joined: Tue May 31, 2005 1:36 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:27 am

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 2):

320 was their guidance prior to the September strike. So they delivered 30 less than expected and they still need to deliver an extra 30 over the next year depending upon productivity gains and production rate increases.

Thanks PanAm, we can always count on you to keep us informed.

Quoting GARPD (Reply 7):
But then, they basically lost an entire month. So perhaps the number is not too bad considering that.

Considering the month long strike by the Boeing machinist, this could have turned out even worse. Luckily for Boeing they were able to negociate a settlement before any serious damage.

Regards,
Wings
Aviation Is A Passion.
 
astuteman
Posts: 6340
Joined: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:50 pm

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:15 am

Quoting GARPD (Reply 7):
290 eh
Quite a lacklustre result, when compared to the record breaking order fest.

To be fair to Boeing, GARPD, the original plan for 320 frames in 2005 would have been driven by the order backlog prior to the start of 2005.

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 2):
We have a very disciplined commitment and compliance process. ... We decided three times not to increase production rates faster. That's why we are not making up those 30 planes until we are absolutely on our way to making these rates changes, and then we will look later about going up even higher."

As Mulally says, winding up the production process significantly is fraught with risk, and Boeing are being properly careful to ensure that the supply chain can ramp up with them.
Some of that takes time, so you see the effects of the orderfest of 2005 being manifest in 2006 and 2007.

Hence 395 planned for 2006, and IIRC c450 predicted for 2007

Regards
 
Oykie
Posts: 1563
Joined: Sat Jan 07, 2006 9:21 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:09 am

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 6):
They acquired them via their merger with National.

Regards, PanAm_DC10

Thank you for your information regarding both the order and the DC-10 question.
Dream no small dream; it lacks magic. Dream large, then go make that dream real - Donald Douglas
 
User avatar
Stitch
Posts: 22937
Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:26 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:18 am

Quoting GARPD (Reply 7):
Quite a lacklustre result, when compared to the record breaking order fest

Yes, but that "orderfest" will drive increased deliveries through the early 2010s, just as Airbus' deliveries the past few years have been strong thanks to their strong orders in previous years.
 
User avatar
PanAm_DC10
Crew
Posts: 3795
Joined: Wed Aug 23, 2000 7:37 am

RE: Boeing Delivers 290 Airplanes In 2005.

Fri Jan 13, 2006 12:29 pm

Here is the number Airbus are reported to announce for 2005 deliveries on the 17th:

378

By Andrea Rothman
Jan. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Airbus SAS, the world's biggest planemaker, delivered 30 percent more planes than Boeing Co. last year and beat its own forecast as airlines added fuel-efficient new jets, said three people familiar with the results.

The company, based in Toulouse, France, sold a record 378 aircraft, compared with the 370 it had projected, said the people who declined to be identified before the tally is announced by Chief Executive Officer Gustav Humbert on Jan. 17 in Paris.


That would be 8 more than their initial guidance of 370

Regards. PanAm_DC10
Ask the impossible to achieve the best possible

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: AU795, BreninTW, CHCalfonzo, cuban8, dlflynhayn, legacyins, seahawk, stlgph, StTim, UAEflyer and 284 guests