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Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:23 pm

I just did a Photo search for interior pics of government aircrafts, but the results weren't those I wished for. I did find some interior pics of the Paraguayan Airforce or some other little states. BUt what I am really interested in would be pictures of the interior of for example the Air force One, of the German Luftwaffe, such as the Chancellors plane or of the Bombardiers they have. If such photos even do exist, which I kinda doubt. I think it would be also very interesting to see how much the government's plane differ from each other.....so keep the pictures roll!

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Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:31 pm

The only interior pictures of a VVIP aircraft I have seen was that of the A340 from the Sultan of Brunei. All very golden and expensive looking! (Sent by email, so no link sorry)
I was once working on an aircraft that was next to a Brazilian Air Force A319CJ, but the security guards at the bottom of the stairs wouldn't let us on to it without a job card.
So I guess taking pictures of the interior would be even harder than getting into them!
 
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Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:41 pm

Here's the only public photo of Dubya's ride, the president's suite in the nose of the 747:


And here are the floorplans of the aircraft:
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:54 pm

Quoting EHHO (Reply 2):

God, that layout looks exactly like the film 'Air Force One'. So it was a relaisitc layout.

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:48 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 3):
God, that layout looks exactly like the film 'Air Force One'. So it was a relaisitc layout.

Ans as you see the floorplan layout does in no way match the official AF1 photo above, so I reckon the florrplan actualy IS from the Movie plane and not from the original AF1

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:06 pm

Quoting LH526 (Reply 4):
Ans as you see the floorplan layout does in no way match the official AF1 photo above

Look closer, it does.
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:07 pm

Out here its virtually Impossible to get a Pic of the Inside of a Govt Aircraft.
BTW the AF1 View looks good.
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:48 am

I find the cargo and equipment area as shown on the floorplan of AF1 very interesting. It shows it running right through the wing box in the side and top view, and is shown as being divided into two decks in the side view?
 
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:53 am

I had a chance to tour the Mexican head of state aircraft in 1990.

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:59 am

Hmmm, no bed for the Presidente Fox?
 
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Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:00 am



I like how the Air Force One floorplan person made a point to depict the copier.




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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:13 am

There are some of the Colombian Presidential plane:

737BBJ:





Nothing fancy, wood, carpets and leather.

The President rest space:



The Business" class of the plane, for other government officials:



The back of the plane, 32 seats for the guests:





Very simple but nice bathrooms:



And of course, the "kitchen" on the back of the plane:
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:21 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 11):
There are some of the Colombian Presidential plane:

Wow, those colors are great!! Just like you say, it's pretty simple (looks IKEA-ish), but really nice. That J/Y config would look good on any carrier.

Pretty funny how the Colombian president has his own bed onboard a 73G, but Tony Blair sits in a BA F seat on a 772!
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 11):
There are some of the Colombian Presidential plane:

That's pretty nice  wink 
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting MarshalN (Reply 9):
Hmmm, no bed for the Presidente Fox?

That pic is from 1990. Mexico have more than one aircraft for the use of President Fox, but I think the most used is that one, the TP-01 “Presidente Juárez”, but they might have re-conditioned it.. maybe a Mexica A.netter could give us more information...


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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:49 am

Our President uses a single engine Cessna [scary for a President, isn't it?], so you are not loosing anything great like the beaties previous exposed.

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:19 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 15):
scary for a President, isn't it?

Irresponsible would be my judgment.
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:35 am

http://www.malham.co.uk/airbus.htm

Above link takes you to the company that designed the lighting for use on the United Arab Emirates royal flight. Impressive!

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 3:36 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 15):
Our President uses a single engine Cessna

For long haul trips, do they use TACA?
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Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:43 am

 
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:05 am

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:21 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 15):
Our President uses a single engine Cessna [scary for a President, isn't it?], so you are not loosing anything great like the beaties previous exposed.

Well not really unless the airstrip requires so. They have a couple of Navajos: MSP003 & MSP009 (MSP= Ministerio de Seguridad Pública) and they're not operated by the air force (since it doesn't exist) but by the Servicio de Vigilancia Aérea which is the civil air wing.

So here's the interior...


and I don't want to be mean or anything but... you guys will never have something like that...  scratchchin 


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Worth to menction they didn't even buy these two, they were confiscated from drug smugglers sometime in the 80s or 90s.

But honestly they barely use them. Our beloved pres' does most of his duty onboard one of the Nissan Patrols... but hey... you've got to see the MSP guys taxiing... they damn rock!  rotfl 

Quoting EHHO (Reply 16):
Irresponsible would be my judgment.

yeah well they dedicate about 102% of their time in maintenance so I don't think it is that much of a threat lol. But there was an incident back when Jose Figueres was president (94-98), he was invited for breakfast at the EARTH campus (anyone heard of that college?) and upon landing on their grass (shall I menction wet?) airstrip the aircraft ran off and hit something with Mr Presi suffering minor injuries. Thankfully, so he could keep stealing some more coloncitos. He must be having a sweet time in Switzerland btw.  bouncy 
 
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:30 am

Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 18):
For long haul trips, do they use TACA?

TACA, AA, IB... depends on the destination. Sometimes he's invited by other Presidents attending the same event to share their planes {which is greatfully appreciated by the Costa Rican taxpayers].

Quoting N506CR (Reply 21):
so he could keep stealing some more coloncitos.

Not as much US$ as Miguel Angel Rodriguez [former OEA Secretary in Washington for less than 3 weeks] and Rafael Angel Calderon Fournier. Both under criminal trial and behind bars not long ago.
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:10 am

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 20):
You can see some photos of the A319 Brazilian Air Force Presidential Transport

That is a beauty... funny that the Brazilian President doesn't use an EMB instead (Range?)
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 22):
Not as much US$ as Miguel Angel Rodriguez [former OEA Secretary in Washington for less than 3 weeks] and Rafael Angel Calderon Fournier. Both under criminal trial and behind bars not long ago.

I recall there was some controversy regarding President Pacheco's flights on TACA, mainly that I believe he used his VIP privileges for personal matters and for leisure.

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 22):
TACA, AA, IB... depends on the destination. Sometimes he's invited by other Presidents attending the same event to share their planes {which is greatfully appreciated by the Costa Rican taxpayers].

Don't forget, President Rodríguez was arrrested aboard a TA A320.  Wink I don't recall the reg though.

No interior shots though, but both the German President and Chancellor use one of these beautiful German Air Force A310s.

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:45 pm

Quoting EHHO (Reply 12):
Pretty funny how the Colombian president has his own bed onboard a 73G, but Tony Blair sits in a BA F seat on a 772!

Is it true that Tony Blair can't charter a VIP flight if he goes oversees?

What about all the European kings and presidents?

Are they traveling in business among other passengers when going to another EU country?

What about flights outside the EU? So Blair, Chirac and Merkel take a first class ticket with their staff on the national carrier?

Always British Airways for Mr Blair or is Virgin Atlantic also considered as an option?

Just curious
 
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:14 pm

Quoting SNBru (Reply 25):
What about all the European kings and presidents?

I remember flying ALF-FBU on an SK MD80 once. We were in one of the last rows, so we boarded early. Doors close, and as they start their announcement, they go "Your majesty, ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard SK" A lot of heads looking up front then. The King of Norway was on his way back to Oslo after doing something (can't remember what) up north. When we landed in FBU, we stopped short of the terminal, the King and his crew got out, and then we taxied to the terminal. The entire Royal Family in Norway flies commercial when they travel. Back in the 70s, I remember the King even riding the tram and wanting to pay like a normal passenger when he was going skiing. This was during the oil crisis, and he didn't want to seem "better" than the average citizen. His bodyguard had already paid however. There is a really famous photo of this.
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:34 pm

When the Dutch queen flies long-haul, it's always with the special WBC version on KL, created for her only. KL has a special royal seat that they install when she flies, I bet it's an old KL first class seat (pre-1994). If she flies the 744 or 74M she always gets either the nose or the upper deck for her own use and for her staff.


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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:28 am

Quoting A346 (Thread starter):

And here are the floorplans of the aircraft:

Without going into details, I can assure you that the floorplan you have is inaccurate. While there are some similarities, the interior is vastly different than portrayed. It's an amazing aircraft that makes you forget you're inside an actual airplane.

And note* each president outfits the interior with his own style/design. Just as he does with the Oval Office.

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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:58 am

AIR FORCE ONE

http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/photos/transportphotos.php

Open the above, scroll down the pictures, and you will find several interior shots of Air Force One under George Bush Senior's time.
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:08 am

Quoting LTU932 (Reply 24):
This colourscheme however is relatively new, because last time I saw one of those on TV, they were in Luftwaffe white colours, like in this old shot of 10+21:

The reason they went from the "Luftwaffe" to the "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" text is because
a) The Luftwaffe sounds military and still has a negative ring in some places.
b) They then wanted it more like the AF1 like "United States of America" to show that they were representing Germany and not the Luftwaffe.
 
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RE: Any Interior Pics Of Government Aircraft?

Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:15 am

Quoting A319XFW (Reply 30):
The reason they went from the "Luftwaffe" to the "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" text is because
a) The Luftwaffe sounds military and still has a negative ring in some places.
b) They then wanted it more like the AF1 like "United States of America" to show that they were representing Germany and not the Luftwaffe.

Yeah, that makes sense. I was just wondering when it was introduced, and not the why.  Smile Thanks for the explanation though.  Smile

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