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Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:02 am

 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:07 am

Ok, once, cool, twice, ok, thrice, wtf. How does the same thing get posted 3 times the same day by 3 different people?


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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:10 am

Really, I didn't notice that! Sorry! I'm such a moron...  ashamed   ashamed 
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:40 am

Huge.... its big for a rail load but huge is rather extreme in avaition terms.
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:00 pm

Apparently we have three a.netters who are also avid rail enthusiasts.  Smile
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:18 pm

Quoting Dan2002 (Reply 1):
Ok, once, cool, twice, ok, thrice, wtf. How does the same thing get posted 3 times the same day by 3 different people?

There was another posting, but, the title of the posting was very different, this posting is actually closer to what the topic really is.....  Smile
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:21 pm

doesn't look huge to me. 9 across will be tight, no matter what people who've seen the 9 across say. Bring on 8 across.

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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 1:54 pm

It's the aggressively 'high-tech' loco that catches my eye.  Smile

What's the betting it started life hauling B17 Flying Fortress parts around......?
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:01 pm

Quoting Dan2002 (Reply 1):
Ok, once, cool, twice, ok, thrice, wtf. How does the same thing get posted 3 times the same day by 3 different people?

It's the first time that I've seen the pic, so lay off.
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:07 pm

It doesn't look that huge to me either. Cool pic though.

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Ruscoe
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:09 pm

Nav20,
Trouble is you and I are the only ones old enough to remember these things.

Seriously though I think this must be a front or rear section, because it is tapering.

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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:22 pm

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 7):
What's the betting it started life hauling B17 Flying Fortress parts around......?

Naw, I'm betting it started life AS a B-17.

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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:06 am

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 7):
It's the aggressively 'high-tech' loco that catches my eye.  Smile

That's actually a caboose, in that picture ... you can see the other end here :

http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/...hp?attachmentid=40569&d=1125636613

They're in the process of pushing back into the Boeing siding (aparently it's quite a shove to get up the hill and into the plant itself).

A side shot was also taken :

http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/...hp?attachmentid=40570&d=1125636728

All of the above (and some interesting info about the section itself) are here :

http://www.railroadforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8699

Of note, apparently this section was made in Japan, specifically for showcase purposes. It's not a flight item (and it's not made of composite materials).

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 9):
It doesn't look that huge to me either. Cool pic though.

That caboose probably stands 14-16' tall and it's dwarfed by that thing ... as far as railroads go, that's pretty much about as big as it gets.  Smile

Judging by the taper (and paint in the side shot), I'd say that's a rear fuselage section.

Midsection's therefore gonna be even larger.

(wow!)

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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:14 am

Another A-netter brought this to my attention, but if you look closely you can see holes cut through the roof of the fuselage. Chances are this section was used to determine the best cutting technique to be used with composite fuselages.
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:22 am

Quoting Litz (Reply 12):
That caboose probably stands 14-16' tall and it's dwarfed by that thing ... as far as railroads go, that's pretty much about as big as it gets.

I am not saying it isn't big, it's a work of art. But, what makes it so different from the other widebodies. Comparing to that, it isn't that huge.

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jepstein
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:52 am

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 7):
...aggressively 'high-tech' loco...

I may be young Nav 20, but I do know it's a caboose!
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:26 am

To me that looks like a narrowbody fuselage.
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:26 am

I don't find it that big at all...


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jepstein
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:34 am

I think I just thought it was big compared to the caboose.  drunk 
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:26 am

FYI,

Received an email from the gentleman who shot the photos - there are two more that he shot as well which he asked that I make available; here are his comments on them :

Quote:
Hey guys,

My name is Ross Fotheringham, I'm the guy who shot the picture linked at the beginning of this thread. When I took that picture I (k)new that there was likely a group of aviation fans who'd like the fuselage just as much as I liked the train with an odd load. I noticed that the picture received over 8,000 hits from this site You guys made that picture the number one most viewed for 6 days - thanks. Anyway, I wanted to share a few more pictures I took that day, and asked Litz to help me out.

He goes on to mention that he was shooting into the sun, so there's a bit of lens flare, however, the results are pretty neat nonetheless.

Check out the shine on the paint on the fuselage (this gives a good idea of the interior of the shell, with the cuts in the roof for the composite fuselage samples, as well as the window/door cutouts) :

http://terminus.litz.org/787/IMG_5072SE%20787.jpg

Here's a shot of it as it pushed back away from Ross, showing the flatcar it's sitting on and the SERIOUSLY huge cradle it's supported on.

http://terminus.litz.org/787/IMG_5074SE%20787.jpg

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 7):
It's the aggressively 'high-tech' loco that catches my eye.  Smile

(that 'high tech' loco is a caboose ........  Smile )

Hope y'all enjoy !

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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:01 am

I don't think that is the Midsection, there appears to be some tapering of the diameter, suggesting it is the forward or aft section. The Midsection diameter should be constant.
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:28 am

thats the piece in the Future of Flight at PAE
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:36 am

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 4):
Apparently we have three a.netters who are also avid rail enthusiasts. Smile

Actually there are alot of us on here.
 
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RE: Dreamliner Prototype Midsection!

Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:30 pm

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 21):
thats the piece in the Future of Flight at PAE

That's correct, and it is the rear fuse section with opposing exit doors - the most difficult section to manufacture because of the taper and curves. Also, as I mentioned in the other thread, the cutouts are sample pieces for analysis of the composite winding and the hat-section stringers.

Boeing press release: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/787...amily/news/2005/q1/nr_050111g.html

Future of Flight pic: http://www.futureofflight.org/images/exhibits/pic_787_fuselage_b.jpg
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