as739x
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Next AirTran City From CAK?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 6:24 pm

After seeing FL announce CAK-RSW (seasonal), I looked at the route map and wondered what was next. A way's back we talked about DFW, is this still a possibility? I was thinking CAK-MDW for connecting traffic to DFW/MSP. What do you guys think?

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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:47 pm

Thank God FL is going to CAK now and lowering fares. They are going to change the way airlines do business on this route and all around the world. The cheaper the fare the better. I always go for the least common denominator. Cheaper is better. Thank God for Airtran. No more 4 day bus rides for me and my family!!!
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:06 pm

They should fly between CAK and MIA and/or BWI.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:36 pm

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 1):
They are going to change the way airlines do business on this route and all around the world. The cheaper the fare the better. I always go for the least common denominator. Cheaper is better

I'm sorry, when did Airtran start flying international? I like FL, but I surely never knew their 73G's were leaving US Airspace on a regular basis, so I doubt they're changing anything "all around the world."

BTW, you already said cheaper is better once, you didn't need to twice.  Wink
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:53 pm

I think they could do well by adding more cities in Florida for snowbird flights and perhaps other destinations out west. BWI and MDW are very well covered by CO and SW in both frequency and low fares, so I do not know if it makes good business sense to add these cities from CAK.

Given that the LAS flights seem to be popular, maybe more west coast flights could be the best option (even if there are redeye returns).
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:00 am

Quoting Notdownnlocked (Reply 1):
Thank God FL is going to CAK now and lowering fares. They are going to change the way airlines do business on this route and all around the world. The cheaper the fare the better. I always go for the least common denominator. Cheaper is better. Thank God for Airtran. No more 4 day bus rides for me and my family!!!

 rotfl   rotfl   rotfl 


And so the Greyhound travelers flock to Airtran...

I'm not sure when FL already started flying across the pond to other countries with 737's and 717's, so I guess I've been out of the loop.

"The cheaper the fare the better? Cheaper is better?" I am sure discerning business travelers across the globe that have never set foot inside a Greyhound bus and routinely spend thousands flying First Class around the world would beg to differ with you. They would be more willing to argue that you get what you pay for.

But I guess since they didn't take the cheap route and went to college and worked hard to get where they are, they don't have to worry if cheaper is better and can afford airline tickets instead of Greyhound.


LOL I'm still laughing.  rotfl 




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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:34 am

Probably still see an CAK-DC area flight sometime in the near future....

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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:28 pm

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 5):
But I guess since they didn't take the cheap route and went to college and worked hard to get where they are, they don't have to worry if cheaper is better and can afford airline tickets instead of Greyhound.

Gee, I went to college, maybe that's why I love that I can get a confirmed business class seat CAK-LGA same day round trip for around $350. CO wants $1000 for a coach seat out of CLE unless I have a 21 day advance purchase AND a Saturday stayover.

I guess I just value the dollar more.

Oh, and BTW, I agree with those who don't see MDW or BWI soon. Too much low fare competition out of CLE. According to Kristi, the marketing director at CAK, DCA is at the top of the wish list. The fact that Akron is split amongst 3 congressional reps, and none are from Akron, means they don't have the clout needed to get slots loosened up.

My guess is that RSW will go year round before the end of the season. Too many snow birds who got gouged for years on the CO CLE-RSW nonstops.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:50 pm

i think DCA would do very well from CAK. CO has reduced their flights to mostly ERJs and the popular first and last flights of the day are often sold out, sometimes weeks in advance. Given an opportunity to take a 717 with a competative fare and business class seats, I think you will find a good number of southeast Clevelanders take the drive down to CAK since it is not all that much further than driving and parking at CLE.
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:58 pm

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 3):
I'm sorry, when did Airtran start flying international? I like FL, but I surely never knew their 73G's were leaving US Airspace on a regular basis, so I doubt they're changing anything "all around the world."

Airtran only international service are Cancun, Mexico and Freeport, Bahamas.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:13 pm

Quoting Midway737 (Reply 9):
Airtran only international service are Cancun, Mexico and Freeport, Bahamas.

I know... I was picking fun at the quote that Airtran was changing the way airlines do business all around the world.

Although, I thought Cancun was temporarily suspended... didn't know it was back. Or maybe I'm thinking F9.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:15 am

Frontier did temporary suspend service from Denver to Cancun. Now the service is back or suppose to.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:29 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 10):
Frontier did temporary suspend service from Denver to Cancun. Now the service is back or suppose to.

Thanks... at least I was just confused and not insane.  Smile
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:31 am

Hopefully CAK-ISP!!!!


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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:03 am

Unfortunately, CAK's director announced that they do not forsee much service expansion - from any airline - at least until the new terminal is completed. CAK is definitely a growing market, pulling passengers from as far away as Mansfield, Marrietta (both in Ohio) and PIT. However the terminal project is ongoing and gate space will be increasingly difficult until all of the construction equipment is moved.


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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:17 am

Quoting Redngold (Reply 14):
and PIT.

Sans Frontier, I don't see what they're pulling from PIT no matter what they say, but they like saying that over and over again. PIT has Airtran too though, so what does CAK have to offer that PIT doesn't?
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:27 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 15):

Sans Frontier, I don't see what they're pulling from PIT no matter what they say, but they like saying that over and over again. PIT has Airtran too though, so what does CAK have to offer that PIT doesn't?

I had former PIT passengers on board almost every flight I've taken out of CAK... Northwest Airlink, Delta Connection, and AirTran all included.

If you live in northeast or east central Ohio, say between US 422 on the north and US22 on the south, it's just as easy (or difficult?) to get to CAK as PIT.
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:27 am

How is Frontier doing in CAK? I haven't heard much. . .

I fly CAK to BOS sometimes, the fares are so cheap-- cheaper than LGA-- that flight has to be subsidized somehow.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting Redngold (Reply 16):

If you live in northeast or east central Ohio, say between US 422 on the north and US22 on the south, it's just as easy (or difficult?) to get to CAK as PIT.

Oh ok now I get it... I thought you were saying people are actually coming from Allegheny County or something. Instead it's that the people live closer to CAK anyways so they're just going to the hometown airport.
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:35 am

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 17):
How is Frontier doing in CAK? I haven't heard much. . .

They will be reducing the number of seats in a month or so from the 319 to the 318.


Airtran however has stated in a recent press release to the airport that no further groth should be expected in the near future due to the current price of jet fuel.

Regards

Quoting AS739X (Thread starter):
After seeing FL announce CAK-RSW (seasonal), I looked at the route map and wondered what was next. A way's back we talked about DFW, is this still a possibility? I was thinking CAK-MDW for connecting traffic to DFW/MSP. What do you guys think?
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:35 am

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 17):
How is Frontier doing in CAK? I haven't heard much. . .

They will be reducing the number of seats in a month or so from the 319 to the 318.

Quoting AS739X (Thread starter):
After seeing FL announce CAK-RSW (seasonal), I looked at the route map and wondered what was next. A way's back we talked about DFW, is this still a possibility? I was thinking CAK-MDW for connecting traffic to DFW/MSP. What do you guys think?

Airtran however has stated in a recent press release to the airport that no further groth should be expected in the near future due to the current price of jet fuel.

Regards
 
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:43 am

Thanks everyone. I'll have to get back in the spring and see how the terminal is coming along.

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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting TOLtommy (Reply 7):
CO CLE-RSW nonstops.

How do you "gouge" if you have the only non-stop? The consumer always had a choice to take another airline with a stop and save some money that way.
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 11:08 am

Quoting Fishe388 (Reply 19):

They will be reducing the number of seats in a month or so from the 319 to the 318.

Flightaware showed it as a 318 already today.
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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Fri Jan 20, 2006 1:01 pm

Quoting Ncflyer (Reply 17):
How is Frontier doing in CAK?

From what I've read, F9 is doing very well on the DEN-CAK route, with planes nearly 90% full, and the third largest airline in terms of passengers (behind FL and DL) with 5% of all passengers through CAK. They are advertising on the Cleveland Plain Dealer's website, so it appears they are very interested in Northeast Ohio. I see by other posts that they are putting the A318 on that route. I suspect this is a seasonal adjustment, and not a permanent change.

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RE: Next AirTran City From CAK?

Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:19 am

Quoting F9fan (Reply 24):
From what I've read, F9 is doing very well on the DEN-CAK route, with planes nearly 90% full, and the third largest airline in terms of passengers (behind FL and DL) with 5% of all passengers through CAK.

December: 83.2%
November 63.4%
October 66.9%

There first flight of the day is usually heavily booked but the afternoon flight has tended to be a dud.

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