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CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 4:24 am

I just recently talked to a friend at Continental and he mentioned that he was hearing talk of CO starting new flights from Houston to Frankfurt, as well as Madrid, with one of them coming online by the end of this year and the other in early 2001. I was wondering if anybody on this board could confirm or deny these rumors...

Also, I would have figured Rome would have been added, as I've been hearing rumors about IAH-FCO for quite some time. Any ideas?

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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 5:37 am

I have heard Gordon Bethune mention IAHFRA and IAHFCO before as possible future uses for the 762's. The key word here is "possible". NOTHING is going to happen this year...and maybe not next either. After that....well, anything is "possible", isn't it?
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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 5:45 am

I have heard the same rumors, but with COs current widebody shortage, this does not seem possible. With nearly thirty DC-10s to be retired and only 26 767-400s on the way, it seems like not much int'l growth can be accomplished. The 10 767-200s have the range to go IAH-Europe, but these have the capacity of about a 757. And the need for one of the first 762 routes to be CLE-LGW keeps being stressed.

But I would like to see CO expand European-wise from IAH. MAD, FRA, FCO, and MAN need to be added in order to compete w/ AA from Texas. CO sure could use another 767/777 order now...............
 
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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 6:21 am

There seems to be lot of rumors going around about CO.

I have heard that CO is looking at the possibility of starting a service to Scandinavian when they recive the 767-200s. Most likely it will be EWR-CPH.

have any of you "close" to CO heard about this Scandinavian sevice recently.

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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 7:19 am

The only people who could answer that question work on some upper floor of "Continental Center" in downtown Houston. No one outside of this select group of individuals will know just what CO is planning for future service until they choose to announce it. I think it's safe to say this is true of most, if not all other major airlines as well. If CO intends to begin flying EWRCPH, IAHFRA, or IAHFCO, 95% of CO's employees won't know it before the outside world does as well.
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RE: SAS767

Tue May 30, 2000 7:23 am

There are some rumors about Transatlantic expansion for the summer of 2001. COs looking at three cities, which would be three of any of the following: Barcelona, Venice, Nice, Athens, as well as an unnamed Scandanavian city. CAL certainly has some catching up to do in Europe, DL already serves all of the cities above, most with 767-300ERS, which accomadate up to 212 pax. Luckily, CO has TLV.


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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 8:30 am

When again are CO's 762's due to arrive?

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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 9:04 am

The first CO 762 should arrive in Oct. of this year. The last info I had was 3 762's and 4 764's by the end of 2000.
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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 10:56 am

I have also heard Co is looking to return to the Austrailian market, pending Gov approval. Iah-syd with 777 service, has anyone else heard this?
 
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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 11:47 am


I was in MAD last April and was told by one of the CO agents that there were rumors that a IAH-MAD nonstop might start next year. I, for one, would love it. I usually fly MEX-EWR-MAD twice a year and would rather fly through IAH. Even though IB and AM fly MEX-MAD nonstop, I prefer CO (AM is very good also, but IB is a disgrace).

Also, I know that EWR-MAD is going back to a -10 in June. Does any of you CO people know if it is going back to a 777 later on?
 
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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 11:52 am

Iahcsr, what you said earlier about CO employees not knowing what routes CO has planned for the future is not quite true. I know of many CO employees who were issued a 5-year plan for CO which included all new routes that are tenatively planned to begin by the end of 2004. Luckily, I got to take a quick look at the report, but I was sworn to secrecy, as CO would certainly not want any of its secrets divulged to its competitors.

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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Tue May 30, 2000 3:15 pm

Given that CO has 51,000 employees, I would guess that less then 10% of them have seen that 5-year plan (and I'm not one of the lucky few). As you pointed out, we don't want the other players knowing our play book before the game begins.
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RE: CAL IAH-MAD/FRA?

Wed May 31, 2000 1:29 am

Continental is expected to use its first 767-400's on Latin America routes.
Last winter, the airline announced a change in its operations to the region
and that a new city in Brazil (Belo Horizonte, I think it was) would begin to
see daily or weekly service connecting EWR via Rio de Janeiro. The Rio
route from EWR would therefore switch to the 767-400.

As for transatlantic expansion from Houston, I think a Madrid route would
be a possibility, as would Frankfurt. Rome is an unknown. Amsterdam is
another possibility as KLM flies IAH-AMS several times a week with a 744.

The 777 used on the Madrid route from EWR should be reassigned to the
LGW morning flight or to Rome (FCO) or Paris (CDG) replacing the second
D10's in those markets.

Continental's current 777 routes are EWR to NRT/LGW/MAN/FRA/MAD/MXP
FCO/CDG/TLV and IAH to NRT/LGW(2)/CDG.

 
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Pbb152

Wed May 31, 2000 5:24 am

Do you know of any of those new routes which plan to be launched by 2004?