Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 6:22 am

Was wondering when the major airlines that serve ALB (American, Delta, Northwest & US Airways), will begin flying their 757s in and out of this airport? I know that UPS is using their 757s in and out of ALB and sometimes the Vice-President's Air Force Two flies in occasionally.
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 9:28 am

TEDSKI, you sure know how to get my attention. When UA retires their 727-200s (and Delta, for that matter), I wonder if they'll use 757-200s. Delta has flown an MD-88 as a substitute for the 727-200. Also when will UA or US (or the combination thereof) fly the Airbus A319/320 into ALB? Yesterday I flew from SCH to HTO (East Hampton) with my friend who rented a Cessna 182. Great flight.
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 10:26 am

Although 757 service to ALB is a possibility, I don't see it happening anytime soon. The 757 is a relatively high capacity aircraft, seating approx 190 passengers in a two class configuration. Most airlines reserve this aircraft for their high capacity routes, and I don't believe ALB is a high capacity destination for most of the majors. Current passenger scheduled service to ALB consists exclusively of narrow-body, low capacity aircraft.

Northwest will definitely not initiate 757 to ALB. The only have about 40 in their fleet, and these are reserved for the highly profitable east coast (LGA, DCA, BOS, EWR, PHL), and west coast (LAX, SAN, SFO, SEA, PDX) markets.

United: Also very unlikely. United has an enormous 757 fleet, but these aircraft are used to fly to large economic centers across the country, such as Detroit, Atlanta, and San Jose. Albany is not considered to be a major economic/business oriented destination, which would be likely to yeild a high proportion of business travelers, and thus high capacity aircraft.

Delta: maybe a possibilty. I believe they have the largest 757 fleet in the world, and they fly to cities that most majors consider to be low capacity destinations.

US Airways: Will never has a 757 to ALB. US has a relatively small 757 fleet, which are reserved for high density routes out of PIT, CLT and PHL. Including destinations like LAX, SFO, DCA, LGA and MCO.

Continental: Also a limited number of aircraft, which serve major business centers on the east and west coast.

American: A relatively large 757 fleet; however, a great proportion are reserved for South American routes out of Miami, in addition to their transcontinental service.

These are my two cents.  

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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 10:38 am

I must agree with Dr. Dtw about the allocation of 757's. Right now inorder to upgrade to that type of equipment, DL must have a greater demand for seating. At present revenue control for those markets has not shown a history of overbookings/nor heavy demand. Yet ALB is a very high yield fare market, and until they can attract a low fare carrier expect the fares to be HIGH. Don't be suprised if you start seeing more and more CRJ's. The 50 seat jet.
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 11:40 am

As someone speaking for UA, I can tell you that unless there's a surge of demand for more seats to ALB from ORD or IAD (or from PHL, PIT, CLT after the potential US Airways acquisition), there won't be any UA 757s to that city. [F.Y.I., UA cannot retire the 727s until 2006 because of contractual obligations with the pilots. And when UA retires 'em, they'll only be replaced with 737s and/or airbuses.]

But you never know. Passenger load predictions and the accompanying required aircraft can be a surprising thing. UA uses 757s to Omaha, Providence, Des Moines. Who woulda thought?
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 12:17 pm

there was a delta diversion the other day into ALB with a 757... any ALBanians see it?
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Tue May 30, 2000 12:19 pm

also ... the ALB-ATL flight at 820A is always full ... DL might consider adding 757 aircraft to this route after the 72s are retired coming in the next few years.
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Wed May 31, 2000 12:15 am

I think Delta should bring in it's 757s for the ALB to ATL route because it's always booked. Many GE employees from the main Schenectady NY plant commute back and forth to Atlanta.
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Wed May 31, 2000 2:31 am

I have to agree with all here, although it is too bad - I'm a frequent flyer out of ALB and I have been on many of Delta's sold-out 727's to ATL. Just a few weeks ago, I was talking with my seatmates about the possibility of Delta using 757's at ALB. We agreed it'd have to be a Delta flight, all things considered. It'd be nice if we finally had 757 service here to ALB; personally I think ALB could support at least one 757 a day (w/the rest 727's - MD-88's) but realistically speaking, we'd probably end up getting MD-88's once the -27's are gone. In agreement w/Tedski, it'd be nice to have the 757 going from ALB to ATL - Delta has some very good , timely connections from ATL to the Left Coast, and I have been on standby more than a few times for the early AM flight to ATL (which always seems to be full, no matter when!).

To Tritanic, Southwest has just started service here to ALB on May 7th, and the "Southwest Effect" has indeed started - my past three flights (one each on Delta, USAirways and Northwest) since Southwest has started have cost approximately 35% less than the same exact flights I had taken one month prior to Southwest's arrival. I don't know how well they're doing, but just the presence of Southwest is indeed driving down fares for all carriers here at ALB!

Also, to Britishmidland - any additional info on that DL 757 diversion here to ALB last week?? I was out of town a few days and didn't hear or see it..I'll ask around...! We do get an occasional odd duck diverting here (I've seen a USAirways & a United 757, Air Canada DC-9, among others), as well as the Bill & Hillary Aviation Company (US Govt. 757's, DC-9's and Gulfstreat IV's)!!

Regards all!
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Wed May 31, 2000 4:49 am

A couple of weeks ago as I was arriving at ALB for flight to CLT (on the way to GSP) I saw a Boeing BBJ taking on taxiway alpha to runway 1. Was it GE's? Anybody know?
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Yes, Even Here

Wed May 31, 2000 5:03 am

don't forget, UA often runs the 757 from MKE-ORD
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Wed May 31, 2000 7:34 am

You will not see a passenger 757 out of alb anytime in the next 10 years sorry pal
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Wed May 31, 2000 9:53 am

why is that Ripcordd ?
any logical explanation or just a coin flip guess?
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RE: Future 757 Service To ALB

Wed May 31, 2000 3:39 pm

The reason UAL flies 757's into cities like OMA, DSM, is because they are high-capacity business markets. They are both HUGE insurance centers. I am sure that competition has a lot to do with it too, OMA currently has two very competitive low-fare airlines in the market (Southwest and Frontier). Plus, OMA and DSM have larger MSA populations to draw from.

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