cgnnrw
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JFK-YVR...Possible?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:35 pm

I will be in NYC for business sometime in April or May. I might have to head out to YVR. CX flies from JFK to HKG with a stop in YVR. Is this purely a refueling stop or can a pax board in JFK and get off in YVR?
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jakob77
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:40 pm

full 5th freedom rights between the 2 cities
you can just buy a ticket for JFK - YVR
 
yvrsr
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:42 pm

Yes. Passengers can get on and off in YVR in the JFK <-> YVR <-> HKG flights on CX. You can also fly between JFK and YVR on Air Canada.
 
cgnnrw
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 8:52 pm

Quoting Jakob77 (Reply 1):
full 5th freedom rights between the 2 cities
you can just buy a ticket for JFK - YVR

Thanks!

Quoting YVRSR (Reply 2):
Yes. Passengers can get on and off in YVR in the JFK <-> YVR <-> HKG flights on CX. You can also fly between JFK and YVR on Air Canada.


True, but I have more opportunities to fly AC to/from Europe and within North American than CX.....no offense to AC but if I have a chance to fly CX I would like to try it.

So I can book it on CXs website or better through a travel agent?
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2travel2know
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:12 pm

DO CX JFK bound passengers go thru U.S. Inmigration and Customs @ YVR?
I don't work for COPA Airlines!
 
yvrsr
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:41 pm

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 4):
DO CX JFK bound passengers go thru U.S. Inmigration and Customs @ YVR?

No.
 
wedgetail737
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:49 am

You should be able to book CX on their website.
 
kanebear
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:46 am

Service, at least in the premium classes, is the full monty. So if you want to cash in miles you'll get the full experience. I'm not sure about economy as I've only ever done the route in F.
 
FXMD11
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting Cgnnrw (Thread starter):
pax board in JFK and get off in YVR

YES, no problem. In December CX had a special on that route.
200 US$ return + Taxes. Pretty cool considering the distance
and the offered service. As another member mentioned correctly,
the flight can be booked under cathay-usa.com - Good luck
 
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:53 pm

CX often has good fares between YVR and JFK, but depending on what your schedule looks like, they arrive into Vancouver quite early in the morning.
 
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:44 pm

CX offers the full service between YVR and JFK. Y will feature one main meal with printed menu and complimentary wine/beer/liquors... Not sure about amenity kit though...

For F and J, service is very good... if you fly from JFK to YVR in F, you will actually get an amenity kit and PJ because it is overnight (somewhat).

CX constantly offers good fares between YVR and JFK but those fares are not earning miles.

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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:53 pm

I did CX JFK-YVR in F two years ago. Amazing flight. Full amenity kit an d PJ's. Caviar service. Menus. True international F service.
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Mir
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:51 pm

As previously mentioned, it can be done. But CX isn't catering to the JFK-YVR crowd, so expect to arrive at off hours - somewhere around 3am if memory serves.

Quoting YVRSR (Reply 5):
Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 4):
DO CX JFK bound passengers go thru U.S. Inmigration and Customs @ YVR?

No.

I assume that includes those who are getting on at YVR?

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cgnnrw
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:47 pm

Thanks for all the answers. I'll keep it all in mind especially arrival and departure times.
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2travel2know
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:21 am

Quoting YVRSR (Reply 5):
Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 4):
DO CX JFK bound passengers go thru U.S. Inmigration and Customs @ YVR?

No.

SO if an international airline flies to 2 destinations in the U.S.A. with the same aircraft, all passeneger have to go thru inmigration and customs at the 1st port of entry (AR EZE-MIA-JFK, LB VVI-MIA-IAD) BUT if it's via a Canadian airport which aslo has Port of Entry facilities (YVR) this rule doesn't apply?
I can't imagine CX JFK bound passengers going thru Inmigration and Customs @ YVR and bording a "U.S. domestic" CX flight to JFK.
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kanebear
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:10 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 14):
SO if an international airline flies to 2 destinations in the U.S.A. with the same aircraft, all passeneger have to go thru inmigration and customs at the 1st port of entry (AR EZE-MIA-JFK, LB VVI-MIA-IAD) BUT if it's via a Canadian airport which aslo has Port of Entry facilities (YVR) this rule doesn't apply?
I can't imagine CX JFK bound passengers going thru Inmigration and Customs @ YVR and bording a "U.S. domestic" CX flight to JFK.

On JFK-YVR-HKG you aren't permitted to leave the aircraft and must stay on board. On HKG-YVR-JFK you MUST leave the aircraft and are held in a sterile transit area which is sealed off from the rest of the airport. You then clear customs as with any int'l flight when you arrive at JFK.
 
2travel2know
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:24 am

Quoting Kanebear (Reply 15):
On JFK-YVR-HKG you aren't permitted to leave the aircraft and must stay on board. On HKG-YVR-JFK you MUST leave the aircraft and are held in a sterile transit area which is sealed off from the rest of the airport. You then clear customs as with any int'l flight when you arrive at JFK.

Do you've any information as if nationals of countries that need visas for Canada actually need "Canadian (transit) visas" to fly on that CX flight between JFK and HKG? JL MEX-YVR-NRT does require those nationals to have Canadian visas when flying between MEX and NRT or will be denied bording.
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MarshalN
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
As previously mentioned, it can be done. But CX isn't catering to the JFK-YVR crowd, so expect to arrive at off hours - somewhere around 3am if memory serves.

If they haven't changed the schedule from when I took the flight, it leaves JFK around something like 8pm and gets in to YVR between midnight and 1am. At least you have no traffic!

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 16):
Do you've any information as if nationals of countries that need visas for Canada actually need "Canadian (transit) visas" to fly on that CX flight between JFK and HKG? JL MEX-YVR-NRT does require those nationals to have Canadian visas when flying between MEX and NRT or will be denied bording.

AFAIK, you don't need a visa as you never pass through immigration. In fact, your passport is not checked in YVR, so I don't see how they need a visa.
 
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:19 am

Quoting Mir (Reply 12):
But CX isn't catering to the JFK-YVR crowd, so expect to arrive at off hours - somewhere around 3am if memory serves.

From what I've read on A.net, the flight actually does cater to JFK-YVR traffic...Large premium market and excellent cargo loads. That's why they're still flying it after they started JFK-HKG nonstop...But perhaps I'm wrong.
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting YVRSR (Reply 2):
You can also fly between JFK and YVR on Air Canada.

I'm sure you'd have to stop through YYZ, however.

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yvrsr
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:35 am

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 19):
I'm sure you'd have to stop through YYZ, however.

No. There is a year-round, daily AC non-stop flight between YVR and JFK on an A319.
 
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:35 am

Quoting Boeingfanyyz (Reply 19):
Quoting YVRSR (Reply 2):
You can also fly between JFK and YVR on Air Canada.

I'm sure you'd have to stop through YYZ, however.

No. AC 548/549 are non-stop flights on an A319.

Cheers,
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dartland
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:12 am

You used to be able to do this route on AA also....not anymore.
 
GuyBetsy1
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:52 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 16):
Do you've any information as if nationals of countries that need visas for Canada actually need "Canadian (transit) visas" to fly on that CX flight between JFK and HKG? JL MEX-YVR-NRT does require those nationals to have Canadian visas when flying between MEX and NRT or will be denied bording.

The same would apply to CX flight as well. Transit rules are governed by the Govrnment of Canada. Not the airline. So whoever needs a transit visa to go through Canada must do so on whatever airline they fly on that stops in Canada enroute to final destination.
 
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:00 am

Bear in mind that on JFK-YVR flights, AC's departure from JFK is early in the morning vs CX's late at night. YVR-JFK flights both airlines depart around same time around noon time. On AC, you will preclear US immigration at YVR. On CX, you will clear immigration at JFK.

Differences will be in the service, fares and aircraft..

AC: Aircraft A319. 2 class service. In economy no free meals on board. Food for purchase. No more pillows and blankets. These are also for purchase.. but are very low quality. Alcohol is not complimentary. Inflight movie on overhear monitors only. Free headsets though.

CX: Aircraft 747-400 (currently).. sometimes changes to Airbus A340-600. 3 classes of service. Sometimes you might even get upgraded if flight is overbooked. In economy, choice of normally 2 hot meals. Plus dessert which usually includes ice cream. FREE alcoholic drinks and wine with meal. Pillows with cloth covers and blankets. In seat monitor showing a variety of movies and shows. Chances are that CX's fares are also lower than AC's.

So, really.. which airline would you rather fly with?
 
dforce1
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:18 am

Personally, I'd rather fly JetBlue and wish they would launch into Canada with a YVR-JFK route.
 
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RE: JFK-YVR...Possible?

Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:51 am

I flew on CX in economy to NYC in 2000 and thought that the service was superb. I often can't remember a lot of flights I've taken, but this one really stood out and I still remember how CX totally blew me away with their service (I'm an Air Canada elite so I'm not advertising on CX's behalf, but I give credit where it's due).

To me it's a no brainer to fly CX to Vancouver, better than AC (or even JetBlue - if they start ops to YVR).

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