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Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:49 pm

It will be a 3x weekly service CDG-EVN-CDG probably to be launched early spring.
Ni info is given on the aircraft type yet.

On the other hand, Armavia started 2x weekly EVN-TLV-EVN on January 15th. The airline plans for Delhi and Manchester as well.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 6:57 pm

MANchester?!?!? Awesome! Exotic! I had no idea there was a natural market there...

Wait a minute. MAN and DEL at the same time... This is sounding a bit like Air Slovakia's (or is it Slovak Airlines? Corrections welcome) little link between BHX and Amritsar. Well, good luck to them; it's mostly a low-margin VFR market, but their operating expenses can't be too too high.

As for AF's arrival in EVN, why in hell weren't they there, like, 10 years ago? Everybody and his dog in Armenia has relatives in France. This one will definitely grow, big time. I predict dailies before this time next year.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:14 pm

Quoting Elagabal (Reply 1):
As for AF's arrival in EVN, why in hell weren't they there, like, 10 years ago?

Actually, they were there like 12-13 years ago through their subsidiary Air Charter before pulling out due to technical difficulties and poor airport handling.

Armenian carriers have been operating direct EVN-CDG flights since 1989. First through Aeroflot, later Armenian Airlines and Armenian Int'l Airways and now Armavia. Armavia had daily EVN-CDG flights this past summer so there is, as you say, a lot of traffic.

Quoting Elagabal (Reply 1):
MAN and DEL at the same time

Good observation, didn't figure it out myself.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:19 pm

Quoting OD720 (Reply 2):
Actually, they were there like 12-13 years ago through their subsidiary Air Charter before pulling out due to technical difficulties and poor airport handling.

Interesting tip, thank you. I was always surprised at how one-way the service seemed to be (IE all ex-EVN), and the logistical problems would explain a lot. Assuming that AF's desire to serve EVN mainline partly reflects an improving situation, this is a credit to Armenia, as well as just simply good news.

[Edited 2006-01-23 11:19:52]
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:54 pm

Greetings from Yerevan. This is good news. I just flew in on BMED last night from Heathrow. Decent flight, but some more competition will be good.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 8:00 pm

Quoting Oobitsa (Reply 4):
Greetings from Yerevan. This is good news. I just flew in on BMED last night from Heathrow. Decent flight, but some more competition will be good.

How's the weather in Yerevan? Freezing I suppose. Haven't been there since 1998!

I think there is some competition from OS and LH, and even OK. The merrier, the better.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:39 pm

Quoting OD720 (Thread starter):
It will be a 3x weekly service CDG-EVN-CDG probably to be launched early spring.
Ni info is given on the aircraft type yet.

Mo / We / Sa . CDG.1:20PM ---> EVN.8:55PM - AF3344 - A320

Tu / Th / Su . EVN.09;15AM ---> CDG. 11:20AM - AF3345 - A320
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:12 am

Thanks for that Pierre. Will the flight continue from EVN to elsewhere in the region or is it just a long layover?
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:25 am

Vatche - who flies to Tel Aviv and Delhi from Yerevan?

Good news though for AF beginning the service. I am sure that they will have a significant feed from their LAX flights. BA is usually pretty expensive and if I'm not mistaken its the only onestop service from LAX to EVN on the same airline (other than probably SU which people try to avoid anyway).

My cousin goes to Armenia pretty often and she usually goes on DL/OK through JFK and PRG.

What European airlines other than BA, OS, OK and now AF fly to Yerevan?

One of these days I want to go to Armenia as well...everyone I know that goes there comes back having loved it. Oobista and OD720, what are your impressions of it?
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:29 am

That will be a layover.

The schedules were studied to offer at CDG the widest connection with AF long-haul network, particularly to/from destinations where you find the biggest Armenian Diaspora.

I am very happy to see AF flying to Armenia. Never been there yet.
I am sure this flight will be successful & profitable. We won't have to wait for long to see additional frequencies I believe...


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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:26 am

This is long overdue. There is good demand between Paris and EVN, and AF will be able to scoop up a lot of LAX-EVN traffic.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:16 am

LH also now fly there from MUC I think
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:26 am

Quoting Aussie_ (Reply 11):
LH also now fly there from MUC I think

They do, and so

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 8):
BA is usually pretty expensive and if I'm not mistaken its the only onestop service from LAX to EVN on the same airline (other than probably SU which people try to avoid anyway).

there is another onestop LAX-EVN flight on the same airline. However, the LAX-MUC-EVN sector has a pretty long layover in MUC, while the connection on the return is not that bad.
Exceptions confirm the rule.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:42 am

If I remember correctly, Armenia is one of the few countries with more citizens abroad than in the country itself. There must be quite a huge market of VRF traffic.

By the way, isn't Zidane of Armenian heritage? Or do I mix it up?
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:50 am

It is interesting, in or near Pasadena, California, I think there are more Armenians than in Armenia. I could see where the LAX-EVN service succeeds swimmingly.

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 13):
Zidane

The clue is in the last name, -ian or -yan, for those of Armenian heritage. Some American-Armenians did drop the -ian upon landing on the shores for fear of discrimination.
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:14 am

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 13):
By the way, isn't Zidane of Armenian heritage?

He is of Kabyle heritage (a non-Arabic ethnic minority of Algeria). Maybe it's the -ane termination of his name which made you think of that. Many Armenian names instead end in -ian.
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 10:14 am

Didnt VG or VH airlines (A Belgian) airline fly EVN-BRU-LAX? or plan to? with A330's
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:36 am

Quoting OD720 (Thread starter):
Armavia started 2x weekly EVN-TLV-EVN on January 15th.

Is there a market for that route ?? I know there is an Armenian community in Israel but i'm not sure about 2 flights a week!

Quoting JoFMO (Reply 13):
isn't Zidane of Armenian heritage?

Algerian heritage.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:32 pm

Makes sense that AF fly to Armenia. There is a large Armenian community in France (ie Charles Aznavour).
Many in Los Angeles so I am sure AF will get connecting traffic.
Glad to see Armavia in TLV.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:36 pm

Quoting AF022 (Reply 10):
LAX-EVN traffic.

I bet they wish they were flying out of BUR Big grin

Quoting HZ747300 (Reply 14):
It is interesting, in or near Pasadena, California, I think there are more Armenians than in Armenia.

Actually, it is right next door to Pasadena in Glendale where there are a massive number of Armenians (a smaller group lives in Hollywood), many of whom are the Los Angeles double whammy of Armenian and Iranian
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:16 pm

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 17):
Is there a market for that route ?? I know there is an Armenian community in Israel but i'm not sure about 2 flights a week!

They have a good CIS network, including 3 or 4x daily to Moscow so maybe they will try to explore this market.

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 8):
One of these days I want to go to Armenia as well...everyone I know that goes there comes back having loved it. Oobista and OD720, what are your impressions of it?

It is different  Smile
To be honest, I was there during the transition period and those years were difficult. They say it's a lot better these days as a city. It is rich with history like many of the places in the region like Turkey, Greece etc.
Some love it, some don't but the diaspora has had a positive effect on the country's development.
 
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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:28 pm

There was a fascinating article about Yerevan and Armenia in a National Geographic issue from maybe about two years ago. A fairly lengthy article with many pictures. It was quite good.

It looks like a very interesting place. I'd love to visit someday.

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RE: Air France To Yerevan, Armenian Aviation

Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:56 am

Quoting OD720 (Reply 20):
They have a good CIS network, including 3 or 4x daily to Moscow so maybe they will try to explore this market

i guess that could be a possibility!  eyebrow 

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