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Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:07 am

IndiGo gets expat COO and CFO. Link:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1388188.cms

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The expatriate population in the Indian aviation industry is on the rise. The latest kid on the Indian aviation block IndiGo has appointed Steven Harfst as its chief operating officer - the third expat to join the airline's core management team. IndiGo - which already has expat CEO in Bruce Ashby besides John Leahy as the chief commercial officer (CCO) - is also in talks to appoint a Dubai-based aviation professional as its CFO, sources said.

The low-cost airline - which had rocked the aviation world last year with a 100 Airbus purchase order - is preparing to take of in the domestic skies in July this year. Its first plane - a leased Airbus A320 - is expected to arrive in India by June.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:31 pm

Opening up of sky adds Rs 450 cr (about $100 million)to insurers’ kitty. State-owned insurers pocket major slice * Foreign players keen to enter the scene. Link:
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=115683

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The opening up of the civil aviation sector and the entry of a host of new domestic airlines like Spicejet, Air Deccan and Kingfisher, have generated an additional revenue of about Rs 450 crore for the general insurance companies in the lasqt one year. Interestingly, the public sector general insurance companies have benefitted the most from this sector with most insurance accounts coming into their kitty. Each insurance account is roughly Rs 150 crore depending on the fleet size. However, the amount could even double in the next few years with the expansion in the sector.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:43 pm

Kingfisher Airlines announces new routes. Link: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1385902.cms


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Kingfisher Airlines on Tuesday announced the launch of new services between Delhi-Kolkata, Kolkata-Ahmedabad, Ahmedabad-Goa and Kolkata-Jaipur.
Operations on each of the routes will commence on January 30, the airlines said in a statement. With the launch of these new routes, the airlines now offers over 10,000 seats across 15 key Indian destinations, the statement added.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:37 pm

How is GoAir doing? I haven't heard much about them at all. I was on their website the other day and it seems like they are gradually expanding.

Also which airlines are poised to started this year?

IndiGo and I'm sure there are lots more.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:48 pm

man..talk about a lot of seats being added all of the sudden.......I wonder which carrier(s) won't be around in the next 1-2 years....
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 4:31 pm

Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 3):
Also which airlines are poised to started this year?

We keep on hearing of a new one every week. ust look at LAXDESI's previous threads to get an idea of how insane things are right now.

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 2):
Delhi-Kolkata, Kolkata-Ahmedabad, Ahmedabad-Goa and Kolkata-Jaipur.

CCU-JAI Hmmm, that will be an interesting flight - I'm sure it will go full during holiday (Durga Puja) season, but the rest of the year they might have issues filling the seats. Strange that Kingfisher is expanding so rapidly in CCU, are they trying to pre-empt SpiceJet which has said that they will expand in CCU?
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:09 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 5):
CCU-JAI Hmmm, that will be an interesting flight - I'm sure it will go full during holiday (Durga Puja) season, but the rest of the year they might have issues filling the seats

There is a large Marwari community in Kolkatta and that should help in filling up seats.
 
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Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:17 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 6):
There is a large Marwari community in Kolkatta and that should help in filling up seats.

Yeah, they are everywhere. I would like to see MAA-JAI or CJB-JAI flights being operated by RJs. MAA-JAI can support a daily.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:04 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Thread starter):
besides John Leahy as the chief commercial officer (CCO)

John Leahy... wasn't he CCO at Airbus.... is that the same person.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Fri Jan 27, 2006 7:52 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 6):
There is a large Marwari community in Kolkatta and that should help in filling up seats.

Many of the Marwari's of Cal have been in Cal for so many generations - like the Birla's that they hardly have too many links back in the Marwar region - in fact, they have more links to Ahmedabad than to Rajasthan. I'm just curious about how they plan to fill a 168-seat plane on a daily basis - maybe they'll tie up with hotels and offer great package deals and still enjoy decent margins. Maybe I'm just being cynical, the route might prove to be a big hit.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:36 am

Airport bids hit roadblock. Link:
http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1609604,00020016.htm
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India will not open bids for the overhaul of its ageing and overstretched airports at New Delhi and Mumbai before January 29 due to opposition from unions who fear large-scale job losses, an official said on Friday. The Congress-led coalition government wants to use private cash to modernise and manage the two shabby international hubs that are struggling to cope with India's surging growth in air travel.

But the bidding process has been hobbled by opposition from communist allies -- who provide key support in Parliament -- and unions, who want the revamps to be carried out by the state. "We have assured the employees that the financial bids will not be opened today and they will be intimated about any further steps that will be taken," K Ramalingam, chairman at the Airports Authority of India (AAI), told reporters.

He had earlier spoken to hundreds of angry airport workers who had blocked the gates of the civil aviation ministry -- watched by dozens of riot police -- where the financial bids were to be opened. Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel has said he wants the bidding process to be completed by January 31.

The government had earlier sought clarification from a high-powered panel set up to evaluate the technical bids submitted by several companies.

Some bidders had withdrawn from the controversial process, saying they were unable to meet the conditions of the tender, while others tried but failed to meet tough bid criteria.

The protesting workers want the government to clarify the status of the alternative modernisation proposal submitted by the airports authority. "We want to know what they have done with the report," senior communist MP Dipankar Mukherjee said. "The AAI has both the expertise and the resources to take care of all the modernisation requirements in both Delhi and Mumbai airports and 35 non-metro airports," he added.

Workers said privatising the projects went against the national interest. "They will sell the country like this," said SK Sharma, who works at New Delhi's domestic terminal.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 12:54 am

Quoting Hawaijahaz (Reply 3):
Also which airlines are poised to started this year

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 6:57 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 10):
January 29 due to opposition from unions who fear large-scale job losses,



Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 10):
He had earlier spoken to hundreds of angry airport workers who had blocked the gates of the civil aviation ministry -- watched by dozens of riot police

@#$% these damn union workers....they are one of the single biggest impediments to progress in India - after the politicians, of course  smile 

They just need to see what happened in the banking sector (public sector banks left faaaar behind the private and foreign banks), to realise that they have to allow private investment in airports, else this so-called aviation boom that everyone is anticipating, will never really happen....do they think that by just ordering a few dozen planes, there will be an aviation boom???
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:10 am

Air Deccan to raise Rs 1,320cr(about $300 million) via IPO. Based on initial offering, total market value of Air Deccan will be around $1,200 million. For comparison, Jet's current market valuation is around $2,100 million, and Singapore Airline's valuation is around $8,400 million. I am really proud of what Deccan has achieved in a short span of time. I would not be surprised if Jet or Deccan end up having a higher valuation than Singapore in another 7-10 years. Link:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1390116.cms

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India's first no-frills carrier Air Deccan is finally cruising towards the capital market, with a plan to offload 25% stake to fund its expansion plan for the Indian aviation space. Though company officials were tight-lipped, sources close to the exercise said Air Deccan plans to raise $250-300 million (Rs 1,100-1,320 crore) through the initial public offer (IPO).

The proceeds from the IPO, the airline said, will be used to set up a training centre, a hangar facility for basic and medium level maintenance checks at Chennai, besides creating infrastructure at airports.

The issue would constitute 25% of the fully diluted post-issue paid-up capital of the company," it said. A part of the funds, sources said, would also be used to part-finance its aircraft acquisition programme. The airline had recently announced plans to buy 30 mint-fresh Airbus A320 passenger jets for a list price of $1.5 billion.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:40 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 13):
I am really proud of what Deccan has achieved in a short span of time. I would not be surprised if Jet or Deccan end up having a higher valuation than Singapore in another 7-10 years.

Keep in mind the Indian capital markets are currently at obscene highs, the BSE Sensex might hit 10k next week (it closed at 9870 Friday) - I will take a look at Air Deccan's Red Herring but chances are that the carrier is going at at least 20-25 times 06 earnings and 15-18 times 07 earnings. Jet incidentally is trading 15% off its issue price of Rs 1300, so buying into Air Deccan, despite it probably being the 'most able' of the carriers that started out in the current boom to become profitable might be a bit hazardous. Unless you want to make a short-term gain though!
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:58 pm

KF and DN seem to be expanding real rapidly, i doubt if GO and SJ can catch up without new aircrafts.
SJ i think will recieve their 10 738s within Q1 2007, wonder if they will make BOM-DEL non-stop.
Also rumours that they would go in for the 737-900ER Any news on that.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sat Jan 28, 2006 5:16 pm

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 15):
wonder if they will make BOM-DEL non-stop

two of four flights are non-stop now. Air Deccan is adding three additional frequencies to DEL-BOM in Feb - 5 daily flights between DEL-BOM - 900 seats a day. There are almost 7500 seats a day between BOM-DEL (and another 7500 DEL-BOM) right now, by far and away the most populated route in India.
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Sat Jan 28, 2006 9:59 pm

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:34 am

Interesting Interview with NG on Bombay talkies yesterday night on NDTV.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:20 am

Quoting Airish (Reply 17):
Air India has leased a 5th B777 from ALAFCO.

Now where the hell is that plane coming from, are carriers like SQ starting to cycle out their old 772ER's? $75 mill for a 772 - can't be very new if that is the planes net worth.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:52 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 14):
will take a look at Air Deccan's Red Herring but chances are that the carrier is going at at least 20-25 times 06 earnings and 15-18 times 07 earnings

As a comparison, Southwest Airlines has a current P/E of 25 and a P/E of 24 based on expected 2007 earnings. Given that equity markets are more global than ever, Deccan's IPO seems to be priced about right. I would argue that Southwest is a mature airline in a mature market with lower growth prospects than Deccan.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:21 pm

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 20):
As a comparison, Southwest Airlines has a current P/E of 25 and a P/E of 24 based on expected 2007 earnings. Given that equity markets are more global than ever, Deccan's IPO seems to be priced about right. I would argue that Southwest is a mature airline in a mature market with lower growth prospects than Deccan.

however, WN has withstood the test of time and is one of the only profitable United States air carrier year after year and has seen multiple "boom and bust" cycles...

Air Deccan is a relatively a new player and certainly hasn't seen multiple "boom and bust" cycles....which will definitely be hitting the Indian Aviation sector in the not-to-distant future....

that being said, my dad will need to look into what Airline will fly from Delhi to Patna....I'm not counting on S2 to be around for that in the next couple of years..
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:05 am

Quoting AirIndia (Reply 8):
John Leahy... wasn't he CCO at Airbus.... is that the same person

 Smile I also noticed when I saw the article. Maybe it was part of the deal?

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:18 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 10):
Workers said privatising the projects went against the national interest.

They don't seem too concerned about national interests when they go on their (frequent) flash strikes.... smile 
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:12 pm

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 23):
They don't seem too concerned about national interests when they go on their (frequent) flash strikes....

Isn't that their national Interest  biggrin 

What news on Paramount Airways.Hows it doing.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:36 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 5):
CCU-JAI Hmmm, that will be an interesting flight - I'm sure it will go full during holiday (Durga Puja) season, but the rest of the year they might have issues filling the seats.

Oh no - this is one area I'm not worried about. It's now definitely a prestige issue for the richer Marwaris to fly back and forth and IMO there should be more than enough demand (assuming prices are low like on DN) on sectors like JAI - CCU to fill may be 2-3 320s daily. Even JAI - BLR and JAI - MAA will have no problems in filling up 1 320 every day

Quoting Keesje (Reply 22):
Enders : "Bitte nehme Sie den hunderd und Sie bekommen John dabei."

Does this mean "please take these 100 320s, and you'll get John Leahy at no charge"? My german skills are rather rudimentary  Smile
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:05 am

UN agency studies Navi Mumbai site for a new airport. Link:
http://dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1010036

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The civil aviation ministry has taken the first step in making a new airport in Mumbai a reality, contracting the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO), a United Nations agency with 187 member-nations, to undertake a technical survey for a greenfield project in Navi Mumbai. Confirming this, Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel told DNA on Saturday, “We are looking at the feasibility of a new airport in Navi Mumbai. ICAO has been asked to do a technical survey.”

A team from the Montreal-based agency is in India for the survey. Its report is expected in three-four months. This sets to rest speculation about the location of Mumbai’s second airport, provided ICAO approves the Navi Mumbai site.

The survey will assess the area’s topography in terms of high-rise buildings and hillocks that could interfere with flight paths, its alignment with the existing one for a convenient flight corridor, efficient management of air traffic, safety, and other parameters that come into play in the making of a world-class international airport. The proposed site measures 3,500 acres, a ministry source revealed on condition of anonymity.

While it is clear that Mumbai will get a second airport, the source cautioned that there are many hurdles to be crossed before any such project takes off. The most important of these is connectivity. A new airport in Navi Mumbai will make sense only after work starts on the proposed trans-harbour link to connect Sewri in central Mumbai with Nhava in Navi Mumbai. The plan here is for an eight-lane road link and two rail tracks.

The 22.5km bridge will be India’s longest sea link. The project - estimated to cost Rs6,600 crore and slated to be completed in four years - will be farmed out to a consortium of bidders through an international tender.

The project does not preclude the upgrading and modernisation of Mumbai’s existing airport by private companies. That process is on and financial bids are expected to be opened next week, after the chairman of the empowered Group of Ministers on airports, Pranab Mukherjee, signs the minutes of the last meeting, which cleared the privatisation of Mumbai and Delhi airports.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:02 am

AAI staff threatens strike as airports bids open tomorrow. Link:
http://www.ptinews.com/pti/ptisite.n...0513065257106004BEDC5?OpenDocument

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Amid indications that financial bids of private consortia for modernisation of Delhi and Mumbai airports would be opened tomorrow and that their alterantive plan is unlikely to get government nod, AAI employees today threatened to strike work disrupting services.

"We have so far not taken any steps to inconvenience the air traveller. But if the government goes ahead with privatisation we could even consider closure of all airports. It could be a massive industrial action, the responsibility of which will squarely lie on the government," AAI Employees Joint Forum Convenor M K Ghoshal said a meeting with Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel here.

"If financial bids are forcibly opened without taking cognizance of our Alternate Plan (submitted to Prime Minister last year), then it will lead to confrontation," he said. Meanwhile, sources said the financial bids of shortlisted private consortia will be opened tomorrow and the empowered Group of Ministers informed about it.

CPI(M) MP and CITU leader Dipankar Mukherjee, who was also present on behalf of the Forum, said "even if we accept that our plan has been rejected, we want to understand who rejected it, at which forum and what were the grounds for declaring the plan as untenable." The Alternate Plan Review Committee headed by AAI Member (Finance) VDV Prasada Rao had described the plan as viable and commented that Rs 9,500 crore could be raised by AAI for modernisation of Delhi, Mumbai and 35 other airports.

Mukherjee said the UPA's Common Minimum Programme referred to resolution of labour issues through consultations and consensus. PTI
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 27):
"We have so far not taken any steps to inconvenience the air traveller. But if the government goes ahead with privatisation we could even consider closure of all airports. It could be a massive industrial action, the responsibility of which will squarely lie on the government," AAI Employees Joint Forum Convenor M K Ghoshal said a meeting with Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel here.

these comm should be put behind the bars. If the strike goes through, then as previous occasion, all airport but CCU will be shut down.

I'd even go to the extent of saying that all international operations off CCU should be stopped. Let comm have in their backyard what they want for the rest of the country.
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Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:58 pm

PP on NDTV24x7 right now.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:26 am

India airport contracts announced. Link:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4665434.stm

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The protestors threatened a strike if the government finalised the deal
Two of India's leading construction firms have won bids to modernise Delhi and Mumbai (Bombay) airports, Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel says.
GMR Industries and Frankfurt airport operator Fraport will modernise Delhi airport while the GVK group and its South African partner has won Mumbai.

Hundreds of airport employees are protesting against the move and have threatened to go on strike. The airports will be leased to the private companies as part of the deal. They will be offered 74% stakes in the airports while the state-controlled Airports Authority of India will retain a 26% stake.

But the plan is bitterly opposed by trade unions and the government's communist allies who say the move will lead to job cuts. Heavy security was in place outside the civil aviation ministry before the bids were opened.

GMR-Fraport and GVK-ACSA (Airports Company of South Africa) outbid rivals Reliance and ASA Mexico, India's DS Construction and its partner Munich Airport and Australia's Macquarie group with partner Airport de Paris.

But the aviation minister sought to allay their fears. "The government has mandated that all the employees will be retained for the first three years," Mr Patel told journalists.

India's airports have been unable to match the growth in Indian aviation. India recorded a 25% growth in air passenger traffic in the past year alone on the back of a booming economy and lower fares.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:57 am

There should be no disruption in services: Centre to states
With employees of the Airports Authority of India (AAI) threatening to go on strike, Centre on Tuesday asked authorities in various states to immediately put systems and arrangements in place to ensure there is no disruption in regular services at the airports.
In letters to Chief Secretaries, DGPs and Commissioners of Police, Union Home Secretary VK Duggal said "the Centre is taking all steps to ensure safety of the working staff and passengers at the airports in view of the agitation by some segments of the employees of AAI against privatisation of Delhi and Mumbai airports".

Amid the ongoing process of opening financial bids for awarding airport mordernisation contracts, AAI Employees Joint Forum has threatened to stop work immediately after formal announcement of the contract for modernisation of Delhi and Mumbai airports.

Meanwhile, government is understood to have asked the Indian Air Force to standby for any contingency.


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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:01 am

An article about pilot shortages and training academies. Link:
http://www.flightinternational.com/A...ion/177/204346/Pilots+wanted+.html

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When Indian start-ups advertised for pilots last year there was initially no response, forcing them to raise salaries to make them more comparable with international levels. Like China, India is grappling with pilot shortages caused by state-owned airlines expanding and a plethora of privately owned carriers launching.

Air India director of public relations Jitender Bhargava says the airline is considering establishing an aviation academy near Mumbai in a joint venture partnership with Boeing. The academy will train pilots as well as maintenance personnel and cabin crew. Bhargava says it is unclear if the aviation academy will offer ab initio training, but it will offer simulator training. Air India offers no ab initio training and instead relies on the Indira Ghandi Rashtriya Uran Academy in Rae Bareli.

Air India has an agreement with the academy, under which it will provide additional funding and in turn be given first priority and, possibly, all the school’s graduates. The school is also about to increase its graduate numbers to 50 a year from 30. Meanwhile, India’s other state-owned carrier Indian Airlines expects to sign a formal purchase agreement in February for 43 Airbus A320-family aircraft for delivery from October 2006 to March 2010.

These two legacy carriers already have some in-house training facilities, including flight simulators, but only Jet Airways of the country’s private carriers so far owns a training device. One of Jet’s rivals, Air Deccan, plans to build a training centre, either at the Jakkur Aerodrome outside Bangalore, or on government-owned land near the new Bangalore airport and aims to open it next year to coincide with the arrival of its first A320 and ATR simulators. Air Deccan also hopes to offer ab initio training because, says Capt P K Gupta, adviser to the carrier’s chief operating officer, “the other flying schools are not up to the mark”. Air Deccan recruits only qualified pilots, who are then sent to simulator centres overseas such as Alteon Training at London Gatwick for type training.

Rival low-cost carrier Kingfisher Airlines is also establishing its own training centre, dubbed Kingfisher University, which will train pilots, maintenance engineers and flight attendants. Kingfisher chief operating officer Nigel Harwood says the university is intended to be up and running by mid-2007 at the latest. Harwood says Kingfisher is considering a 2.43Ha (6 acre) site at Thane, outside Mumbai, but is also looking at locations at airfields such as the new Bangalore airport.

Kingfisher will kick off with simulator training and plans to get one ATR and two A320 flight simulators, one next year and one a year or so later, says Harwood. The carrier also plans to offer ab initio training as early as next year and is speaking to two potential partners, he says. The carrier also plans a maintenance centre and is seeking to house the MRO business, simulator and ab initio training centre at one site.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:54 am

http://www.indianexpress.com/full_story.php?content_id=86981

- great Edit regarding the privatization of airports and AAI
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:21 am

Quoting Desh (Reply 33):
great Edit regarding the propitiation of airports and AAI

Thanks for the link. I hope GOI stands firm and does not give in if there is a strike. How about calling their bluff by inviting left parties and unions to match the highest bid and run the airports.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:26 am

Export-Import Bank Funds Air India's Fleet Expansion. Link:
http://www.banknet360.com/news/NewsAbstract.do?na_id=1585

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Washington, D.C.-based Export-Import Bank agreed to finance 85% of an intended fleet expansion at Air India. The Indian airline plans to acquire 68 Boeing aircraft for $8 billion. The remaining 15% will be funded with interim loans from local sources and the airline's own funds. The carrier has already made an advance payment of $430 million to Boeing.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:30 am

AAI employees to strike. Link:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...02/01/stories/2006020102380100.htm

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AIR services around the country could be affected on Wednesday with the Airports Authority of India Joint Workers Forum deciding to launch an indefinite nationwide strike to protest against the Government decision to award the contract for modernisation of Delhi and Mumbai airports.

Earlier, addressing a press conference, the Minister for Civil Aviation, Mr Praful Patel, said that the Government had made alternate plans to ensure that air services function normally. Official sources said that the personnel of the Indian Air Force have been put on "short notice stand-by" to ensure that the air services functioned normall
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:55 am

Quoting LAXDESI (Reply 36):
AAI employees to strike. Link:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...0.htm

Fire the whole lot, ala Reagan did with the ATC in the 1980s.

I'm sure the GOI (pathetic as it may be), can come up with a stop-gap piece of legislation requiring that airports are a national necessity and, thus, a strike as such is illegal.

They should start with that fugly aunty-ji duking it out with the Delhi police in that picture.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:12 pm

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 37):
I'm sure the GOI (pathetic as it may be), can come up with a stop-gap piece of legislation requiring that airports are a national necessity and, thus, a strike as such is illegal.

I do not believe they have the votes to pass such a legislation unless BJP supports it, which IMO is not likely.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:21 pm

Govt gears up to deal with airport strike. Link:
http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2006/feb/01airport.htm

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The 20,000-strong workforce of the AAI has threatened to lay off work with effect from 10 a.m on Wednesday to oppose the privatisation of the modernisation process of the Delhi and Mumbai airports, the bids for which were opened on Tuesday amidst major drama.

The Indian Air force has been asked to stand by and help in case of any contingency arising out of the proposed strike.The All-India Joint Secretary of Airports Authority Employees' Union Nitin Jadhav said the AAI staff would not report for work from 10 a.m. on Wednesday. But he said it should not be termed a "strike". "As we said earlier, action will be taken after a meeting with the joint AAI union forum," he said.

It is learnt that special security is being provided to air traffic control staff, who will not strike work, and for power supply installations. A defence ministry spokesman said all IAF air traffic controllers and ground control staff were on standby.

Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel, however, assured the employees that there was no threat to their jobs. He said both the GMR and GVK consortia have told the government that they would absorb 60 per cent of the existing AAI employees at the two airports. The others will be absorbed by the government.

Sitaram Yechuri, Politburo member of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), who addressed the workers of the AAIA on Tuesday along with D Raja of the Communist Party of India, had threatened that the workers would come on the streets and fight tooth and nail to oppose the government's decision. "(Former prime minister) Rajiv Gandhi lost an election on the Bofors issue. The Manmohan Singh government will meet the same fate over this," he declared.

But Airlines said they did not expect flights or operations such as baggage-handling, ticketing and catering -- run by their own employees -- to be disrupted. The two state-owned airlines, Air-India and Indian, said they had equipped their flights with step ladders, instead of aerobridges, to facilitate boarding and disembarking.

Although the AAI union in Hyderabad has about 500 members, only 30-odd seemed to be sitting on a dharna on the first floor of the airport, so as not to disrupt operations at the passenger terminal on the ground floor. The Bangalore airport functioned normally without any hint of disruption.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:00 pm

Jet Airways announces new sectors from today. Link:
http://www.hindu.com/2006/02/01/stories/2006020117161100.htm

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Jet Airways has announced that it will operate direct flights on Bangalore-Tiruvananthapuram-Bangalore and Chennai-Tiruvananthapuram-Chennai sectors from Wednesday. A Jet Airways release said these flights would also give connections to passengers from Delhi and Mumbai to reach Tiruvananthapuram in the morning via Chennai or Bangalore.

In the wake of increased tourist traffic in and out of Kerala, the airline had introduced the two new links. The flights would be operated by 62-seater ATR72-500, it added.

There would be an early morning service from Pune to Bangalore and an evening service from Bangalore to Pune giving day-return facility for passengers from Pune. "A second frequency will be added on this route providing a day-return facility for passengers travelling on this route. This is of significance to business travellers... "

The Bangalore-Mangalore-Bangalore, Bangalore-Goa-Bangalore and Bangalore-Kochi-Bangalore sectors in the South had been upgraded to operate on a Boeing 737-700 providing for more seats. The late evening Bangalore-Hyderabad-Bangalore flight operated by an ATR72-500 was the third frequency on this sector giving business travellers based in either city better options for same-day return to their destinations, the release said.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:07 pm

Air Deccan schemes for frequent fliers. One of the deal works out to be $60 per trip, anywhere Deccan flies. Link:
http://www.blonnet.com/iw/2005/01/30/stories/2005013000991501.htm

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Frequent fliers of Air Deccan are in for a treat. The airline has introduced two new schemes, Super Flier and Super Flier Plus, which offer 30 and 36 tickets, respectively, at reduced rates to passengers. Under the Super Flier scheme, a passenger gets 30 tickets for Rs 50,000(about US$1,100), which can be used in any of the short haul sectors that the company operates with the ATR aircraft. The Super Flier Plus scheme comes with 36 tickets for Rs 1,00,000(about US$2,200) which can be used in any of the sectors that the airline operates.

The tickets are valid for 12 months from the date of purchase of the package. The packages can be used for business or personal use and includes family members as well.
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:07 pm

http://www.ndtvprofit.com/homepage/s...p?template=aviationpolicy&from=top

AAI workers on strike.

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Wednesday, February 1, 2006 (New Delhi):

About 22,000 employees of the Airport Authority of India (AAI) have stopped work at airports across the country.

The employees are protesting against the government's decision to modernise the Mumbai and Delhi airports with the help of private players.

However flights are not expected to be affected in a major way as the Air Traffic Control staff, crucial for flight operations, are not joining the strike.

Other crucial areas like airport security, baggage handling, passenger check in, and catering are also not likely to be affected.

The call for an indefinite strike by AAI employees came on Tuesday after the government's announcement that two international consortiums, GMR Frappo and GVK South Africa have won the bids to modernise the Delhi and Mumbai airports.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:10 pm

Let them go on strike, after some time, they should all be fired. DEL and BOM are going to get state of the art new airports, and that helps the flying public, foreign investors and the country. Just because some lazy-assed evil communists want job-protection, the country shouldn't be left behind.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 4:51 pm

If the AI pilots could be fired for not operating to HKG during the SARS scare, these guys too can be fired. Nobody can be allowed to hold the country to ransom.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:17 pm

In real terms what exactly do the AAI folks do at BOM/DEL in the operation of flights? I thought the airlines provide all the actual staff for things like baggage screening, checkin, boarding announcement, herding people into the buses, driving the buses, herding folks into the a/c etc. Security is provided by the CISF. I guess the AAI guys must do things like fix broken lights, elevators, bathrooms etc? Or is there a lot to this that I'm missing?

That being said - I hope the strike is successful - in getting any lazy AAI employee fired or demoted or shunted to Belgaum or some other remote airport.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:40 pm

From http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1614063,00020016.htm

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Thousands of employees of state-owned Airports Authority of India on Wednesday began a nationwide indefinite strike, protesting against privatisation of Mumbai and Delhi airports.

Reports indicated that flights to and from Kolkata were badly hit. ATC issued notice that flights could neither land nor take off.

However, officials claimed that flights across the country operated smoothly as Air Traffic Controllers reported for work.

In Mumbai, police resorted to lathicharge to disperse a group of striking Union employees. There were no reports of any untoward incident as AAI workers staged demonstrations and raised anti-Government and anti-Sonia Gandhi slogans outside airports. Protestors blocked the entrance to Mumbai Airport.

"No disruption or delay in flight operations has been reported so far. We all are ensuring smooth functioning of the services," AAI spokesperson Premnath said.

All incoming and outgoing flights operated on schedule in Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai and other cities.

The agitating workers said that they would continue with the protests till the Government rolled back its decision to hand over the modernisation process of Delhi and Mumbai airports to private consortia.

Both Delhi and Mumbai airports are AAI's major revenue earners.

While Premnath said that all contingency measures had been taken to ensure normality, Patna Airport Director Atul Dikshit said IAF personnel had been drafted from air bases in Darbhanga and Bitha as all the 100-odd AAI employees there had struck work.

Though Air Traffic Controllers are not on strike, the ATC guild has expressed solidarity with the agitating workers.

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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:07 pm

I was sent to the airport (BOM) to cover what was happening, other than some members of the Fire Service joining in most of the people were operational staff and cleaning ladies. The protest was happening outside the private airlines terminal. They were screaming at the government (Mrs G v2, PeePee, Vilasrao Deshmukh and RR Patil), I believe there was a police charge in the morning because the guys were blocking the passengers path now the passengers have a clear path through. This is a pic I clicked on my N90 of what was going on.

I spoke to IC and 9W and they told me that other than CCU flight opns were normal across the country. Another airline guy snidely mentioned that CCU was bad because those guys were angry/jealous at being left out of the modernisation process.
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:39 pm

In Mumbai, is the privatization for both international and domestic or intl only?
 
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RE: Indian Aviation Thread: Part 6

Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:15 am

Quoting Anandt (Reply 48):
In Mumbai, is the privatization for both international and domestic or intl only?

I believe its airport infrastrucutre and operations in general - not intl vs domestic....
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