twolz2rn
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UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:22 pm

I remember a while back when UPS offereed passenger service to select destination. Question...What cities did they serve? WHy was it cut? HOw long did it take to change the inside from cargo to passenger?
 
phatfarmlines
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 12:25 pm

They used to fly charter TPA-CUN on 727-100's. Their counter was right next to ValuJet & NW on the red side of the terminal, with a plain UPS logo hanging from the top of the counter.
 
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:22 pm

By the way...Where did Greyhound use to fly?


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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:36 pm

The pep band for the Purdue Women's BBall team (GABS) was "shipped" UPS to one of the NCAA tournament games several years back. We joked at the time that the university was pocketing our tuition and sending the band in "Next Day" boxes to the game. I knew a few band members, and they said it wasn't too bad, though.
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:12 pm

UPS had a small subfleet (10'ish or so) B727-100QC that could be configured with passenger seats.
They mostly flew weekend fun/sun and cruise charters along the East Coast, however did on occasion make it out West as part of group or team charters.

Interestingly UPS somewhat followed the FEDEX footsteps whom also had a small passenger operation using 3 or so B737-200 in the early 1980s.

Overall not a terrible idea in trying to get better utilization and revenues from your fleet while it would otherwise be sitting on the ground, however eventually I think the idea faded away as it added too much complexity to the very streamlined operations Fedex & UPS operate.

Quoting AsstChiefMark (Reply 2):
Where did Greyhound use to fly?

Greyhound was a Canadian low fare carrier using B727-200s and having a Winnipeg hub connecting Eastern and Western Canada. They were backed by Greyhound bus lines and had joint marketing allowing you to mix airline/bus tickets to reach many smaller communities.
They only lasted for something like 1 year before shutting down.
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PHLAUA
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:45 pm

If I remember correctly, I think the east coast operation (a/c fittings, etc.) was based at PHL.

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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:28 pm

UPS used to fly to BOS and NAS I know
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:34 pm

The cabins of 5X's pax birds were really nice, took less than four hours to reconfig. After a while, the kits started to look worn. Some pretty high profile charters...we had the White House Press Corp come in on one...
 
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:58 pm

check out this article here on a.net it is really good and tells some of the passenger tale.

http://www.airliners.net/articles/read.main?id=66
 
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:25 am

I thought they did SDF-CUN as well. I remember trying to fly them but i would of had to fly from CHI-SDF to do so.
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:14 am

They used to fly regular "scheduled" charters from PIT-CUN and Santo Domingo.


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upsmd11
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:22 am

I heard part of the reason this isn't going on any longer is that the 727-100 could not hold the passenger count the charter companies were looking for. Just think if our 757 fleet was able to be configured for passenger during the day and packages at night.

Sadly the 757s are freight built with no windows -- hey maybe the DC8s could be .... nah .... just a fleeting fantasy I guess.

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charlipr
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:30 am

At one point they were flying to SJU!!
 
johnboy
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:34 am

IIRC, my brother in Louisville told me that he and his wife flew to Aruba on a vacation package utilizing UPS.
 
kyair
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:26 am

Quoting Johnboy (Reply 13):
IIRC, my brother in Louisville told me that he and his wife flew to Aruba on a vacation package utilizing UPS.

They did use SDF as I remember seeing their check-in counter, something like 10 years ago.
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milesrich
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:22 am

UPS wants to make money, and flying passengers is not a way to do that.
 
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:04 pm

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jeffry747
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:00 pm

Quoting Johnboy (Reply 13):
IIRC, my brother in Louisville told me that he and his wife flew to Aruba on a vacation package utilizing UPS.



Quoting KYAir (Reply 14):
They did use SDF as I remember seeing their check-in counter, something like 10 years ago.

You are both correct. I work at UPS, and used to work the cafeteria and snack bars at the SDF terminal before they were remodeled. On many occasions I did see passengers boarding UPS pax aircraft, mostly from a gate they shared with AA. A few days later, the same aircraft would be sitting in an out of the way spot on Ramp 9, the largest UPS ramp at SDF. During the course of the night you could watch as they converted the plane for cargo ops. By the end of the night she was ready to go for a package flight to wherever.
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BryanG
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:05 pm

I recall seeing pax UPS 727s operate out of BWI many times. Always charter.

They'd set up a big temorary sign at one of the check-in counters, with the old brown UPS logo. At least they weren't ashamed of advertising that they were flying pax! I wonder what the passegers thought when they were told to check in with "UPS Airlines" ?!?
 
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RE: UPS Passenger Service

Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:59 pm

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 4):
Interestingly UPS somewhat followed the FEDEX footsteps whom also had a small passenger operation using 3 or so B737-200 in the early 1980s.

Hey Laxintl, Can you tell me where you got that info on Fedex carrying pax in 737s? I got hired in the early 80s and know we flew a few 737s(they were on the freight ramp) for a short time but I know a few of the guys that did this and there was never any mention or evidence that I saw regarding pax. I know that they talked about it but from what I was told scrapped the idea when they concluded that by the time you change interiors, have F/As and serve food and bev there was no money to be made. Of course today with day and night sorts it would require a complete seperate set of jets. Just curious...CC

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