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Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:32 pm

From a friend I was with tonight who lives over in the Stapleton redevelopment area, apparantly the rumor is going around that the locals moving in think the tower is an eyesore (it is in bad need of repair) and should be torn down, and the talk now is that it will be removed and a park will go in its place. This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, but still  Sad

God I hate it when people who move in long after a plan has been decided think that just because they're there now they can do whatever they want.
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:37 pm

I personally feel all those houses going in are an eyesore. They should be torn down and have something more beneficial used with the space. Maybe, say, an airport.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:43 pm

And I thought the "friend's dad's ramper's convervastion with a pilot" rumors were bad. Sorry Eric, I hope this is all  redflag 
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:45 pm

The problem is that the city has just ignored the building since the airport closed  Sad

Seriously why can't they refurbish it now and make it into a museum?
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:53 am

If I recall correctly, there was serious discussion of the Smithsonian taking the Stapleton terminal (now demolished) for their annex of the Air & Space Museum. Obviously, this is a moot point now since their annex recently opened at IAD.

I don't think the city wants the burden of running a museum at the tower site, but if they're not keeping it in decent shape (no surprise there), then I can see the residents' point in wanting it removed.

IMHO, Denver really missed a great opportunity with the Stapleton redevelopment. Cramming houses in there, 10 feet apart max, and sprinkling in some big box stores, makes it immediately unattractive to a lot of folks. It looks exactly like the Lowry AFB redevelopment. If people want that sort of neighborhood, there are plenty of opportunities for it in and around Highlands Ranch.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:07 am

Man, that tower was the only reason I stayed at the Doubletree across the street from the UA Flight Ops Center. Wel, that and the annual F9 stockholders conference is there too, and the warm cookies on check-in!

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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:20 am

I thought the tower was a historical landmark, or in other words impossible to tear down...bastards...
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 4):
Cramming houses in there, 10 feet apart max, and sprinkling in some big box stores, makes it immediately unattractive to a lot of folks.

Code dictates greater distance than your exaggerated 10' (20'). You think this is unique to this urban area? It is happening in every major metropolitan city.

Interestingly, of all the areas in Denver, Stapleton and Lowry aren't seeing any real estate slowing. Why did people move here instead of Highlands Ranch....come on, you probably already know the answer....new housing in the city.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting DLKAPA (Thread starter):
This is a completely unsubstantiated rumor, but still

And the rumor is just that...a rumor. The tower is a historical landmark and none of the neighborhood meetings has focused around the tower. The park (Central Park) will be finished this year and the tower will remain.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:53 am

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 8):
And the rumor is just that...a rumor. The tower is a historical landmark and none of the neighborhood meetings has focused around the tower. The park (Central Park) will be finished this year and the tower will remain.

Awesome. You attend these meetings?
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:01 am

Quoting DLKAPA (Thread starter):
apparantly the rumor is going around that the locals moving in think the tower is an eyesore

It is pretty fugly, but so is the community of houses going up just to the south of it. I've never seen such a hodge-podge of clashing styles all squashed together to make it look like an "eclectic" living community.
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:40 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
It is pretty fugly, but so is the community of houses going up just to the south of it. I've never seen such a hodge-podge of clashing styles all squashed together to make it look like an "eclectic" living community.

To each his own, but I'm loving the appreciation of my, "squashed together to make it look like an eclectic", home is climbing.

Just out of curiosity, where do you live?
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting Flyf15 (Reply 1):
I personally feel all those houses going in are an eyesore. They should be torn down and have something more beneficial used with the space. Maybe, say, an airport.

LOL.......

Now seriously.... I live near the development in question. I have absolutely heard nothing about this. I doubt it will happen. The tower represents too much to too many people...
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Thu Feb 02, 2006 2:41 pm

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 11):
Just out of curiosity, where do you live?

Near downtown Denver...don't get me wrong I like the Stapleton neighborhood but it's crazy how many different styles they've got going on there.
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:32 pm

How about the runway bridges over I-70? or whatever highway that was that used to run along side of Stapleton... I remember there were a couple runways going over the road. Did they tear the bridges down or did that become a road to these above mentioned neighborhoods?
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Thu Feb 02, 2006 3:37 pm

I really hope they don't demolish the tower.

Everytime I pass by the Stapleton area, I always admire the tower and just spend some time pondering.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
don't get me wrong I like the Stapleton neighborhood but it's crazy how many different styles they've got going on there.

Fully agree.

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 14):
How about the runway bridges over I-70? or whatever highway that was that used to run along side of Stapleton... I remember there were a couple runways going over the road. Did they tear the bridges down or did that become a road to these above mentioned neighborhoods?

Yes, they were torn down.
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:27 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13):
...it's crazy how many different styles they've got going on there.

True, but it's a hell of a lot better than the "Highlands Ranch" style! When you drive in Capitol Hill or Congress Park or Park Hill...do you see cookie cutter style houses/condos/apt. buildings?
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:40 am

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 14):
How about the runway bridges over I-70? or whatever highway that was that used to run along side of Stapleton... I remember there were a couple runways going over the road. Did they tear the bridges down or did that become a road to these above mentioned neighborhoods?

All the bridges were brought down years ago, with the exception of the "ramp" service road. Discussion is now centering around allowing the residents to use it for access to Northfield (Shopping District) via bicycles and/or walking.

Current discussion in Denver, about the future growth and restructuring of I-70, is looking at pulling down the service road. That would leave the UA Training Center, Hotels, Control Tower, former AMR Combs Hanger and a couple of other smaller buildings from the demolishion ball.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:50 am

When I was in Denver in 1999, the airport buildings were still there, all closed and looking deserted and torn. I went hiking besides the freeway and found the derelict Convair 580 N73160 of Aspen which was abandoned after it made a forced landing, I could climb on board and took some seatcloth and metal with me as souvenir. Anyone know if that fuselage is still there? Here a picture of it two months before the crash
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 4):
IMHO, Denver really missed a great opportunity with the Stapleton redevelopment. Cramming houses in there, 10 feet apart max, and sprinkling in some big box stores, makes it immediately unattractive to a lot of folks. It looks exactly like the Lowry AFB redevelopment. If people want that sort of neighborhood, there are plenty of opportunities for it in and around Highlands Ranch.

This quote seems to be the theme on this thread.

I disagree...

And regarding Highlands Ranch...it is not near the City as these redevelopment areas are. Highlands Ranch was just a bonanza of home builders gone wild...a cramming of cookie-cutter houses to the extreme.

Being a Denver resident (BTW: I live behind Regis Jesuit High School and love my land and new house) I am very familiar with the Stapleton redevelopment as well as the Lowry redevelopment.

First off, I must say both of these areas have won national awards for their redevelopment efforts. So, those of you who are complaining about how close the houses are on the size of a "postage stamp" yard...well I've got news for you: that is exactly the way the neighborhoods were planned. They are both supposed to feel like inner-city living...and the residents at these places love it (and have paid a pretty penny for it too). It gives it a definate "tighter-fit" feel to the community...because it is supposed to. Now, I bought my place because I wanted some land and a larger house. If I would have bought in either of these redevelopment areas, my house would have been much smaller and my yard would have been...well...like an average Highlands Ranch yard (very, very small).

Now, back to the topic...

I disagree with the majority of you...

Personally, I think the tower should be moved to an air museum somewhere in the country...somewhere where it would be taken care of and enjoyed...not in the middle of a sprawling neighborhood who wishes the tower to be gone already.

The tower is historical, but let's face it, it is an eyesore. It is out of place and ugly because it hasn't been maintained...which is a problem with the residents who have to look at it everyday. Yes, it was there first, but the airport is gone and other people now own the land around it...not the City; and majority usually wins.

I say, sell it or donate it to a museum for all to enjoy. What good is a defunct tower in the middle of a neighborhood that doesn't want it there...the tower is not like Cape Hatteras Lighthouse, NC (which every resident and tourist loves; loved it so much they moved it inland to keep the ocean away from doing any more damage to the structure...now that's love)...this, on the otherhand, is a control tower people...not everybody there loves airlines and airplanes...so move it somewhere where it could be enjoyed by those who appreciate the damn thing.
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting DIA (Reply 19):
...not in the middle of a sprawling neighborhood who wishes the tower to be gone already.

I'm sure your post wasn't meant to come across as arrogant as it reads!??!  Confused

What gives you the impression the residents (I'm one of them) of Stapleton want the Tower removed? If anything, we would like to know what plans the developer has to restore the building!
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 16):
When you drive in Capitol Hill or Congress Park or Park Hill...do you see cookie cutter style houses/condos/apt. buildings?

Not really....Capitol Hill is pretty varied but perhaps Park Hill is a little more "cookie cutter".
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:04 am

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 4):
If I recall correctly, there was serious discussion of the Smithsonian taking the Stapleton terminal (now demolished) for their annex of the Air & Space Museum. Obviously, this is a moot point now since their annex recently opened at IAD.

I will always remember that the Smithsonian originally was interested in using the site of the old PIT terminal in Pittsburgh for this museum site, back in the early 90s. This goes back to the early days of this Air and Space museum's Annex project. I do not remember exactly what happened which resulted in this possibility to fall through, but I am sure it was due to political reasons between the Smithsonian and Allegheny County.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:07 am

Quoting AndesSMF (Reply 6):
I thought the tower was a historical landmark, or in other words impossible to tear down...bastards...

I think it was the city's intention to leave it up with hopes of it possibly becoming such a landmark.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:33 am

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 20):
I'm sure your post wasn't meant to come across as arrogant as it reads!??!

What gives you the impression the residents (I'm one of them) of Stapleton want the Tower removed? If anything, we would like to know what plans the developer has to restore the building!

Arrogant? I had no intention. Though, I must say, it is funny how someone else reads my thoughts and emotions much differently than intended.

I have several collegues who live on the Stapleton site. Four out of the five of them would like to see the tower gone (they really don't care for aviation the way we do). The fifth (who doesn't care about aviation either) would like to see it renovated...but agrees it is an eyesore the way it is........So that is my finger on the pulse of that community. You might have a very different idea/opinion...which you are absolutely entitled to.

I still stand by my opinion...it'd be better to move it to a place where it would be taken care of and enjoyed by ALL who wish to enjoy it. And if it never moves...fine...in the end, I really don't care, just as long as it is taken care of.

When I decide to drive over through 'your' neighborhood...I think it is the housing development across Quebec that should be torn down...those houses are the real eyesore. And, no, I really don't care about being politically correct here. Besides, the airport was there first, before they built those old cracker boxes across the street. Yes, the poorer residents will be booted, but that is exactly what happened at Lowry and that is what happens in the U.S. -- that's life.

And, no, I'm not meaning to come across arrogant and inconsiderate....just realistic, nothing more.
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:55 am

In the Stapleton development there is a monthly neighborhood newspaper called "Front Porch".

In the Q&A section, titled"Since You've Asked" was the following question:

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What is the plan for the old control tower?

Answer:

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The former control tower has been stabilized for a future use that has not yet been determined. Unfortunately, there is insufficient room at the top of the tower for a restaurant, which is is the most frequent suggestion.
 
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RE: Stapleton Rumor: The Tower Will Be Torn Down.

Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:57 am

Quoting CO767FA (Reply 25):
The former control tower has been stabilized for a future use that has not yet been determined. Unfortunately, there is insufficient room at the top of the tower for a restaurant, which is is the most frequent suggestion.

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