luisde8cd
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Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:40 pm

Guys,

While looking for Mexicana fares between MTY and CUN, I found that it is cheaper to fly with a stop in Miami than to stay inside Mexico.

A MTY-MEX-MIA-CUN-MIA-MEX-MTY ticket with Mexicana costs USD 550 and a MTY-MEX-CUN-MEX-MTY ticket with MX costs USD 553! I can't believe it! I seriously can't. I hope the new LCCs help bring down these outrageous prices. I think it can even get cheaper if you fly Aviacsa MTY-MIA and then MX/AA MIA-CUN.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
 
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:33 am

There was a time flying domestically in Mexico was ultra-cheap. Granted it's several years back, but my first domestic flight within Mexico was on an AM DC-10 between ACA & MEX. Full unrestricted Y/C airfare was $19.00 one way. And no....it wasn't 1952.
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:39 am

I just paid US$505 for a MEX-GDL-MEX (0:45 effective flying time), and US$463 for a MEX-MIA/MCO-MEX (2:50 and 3:00 effective flying times, respectively). Both sets of flights in AM. Both on Y class. Yes, this is nuts.

Interjet and Volaris will reshape the market this same year...

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juventus
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:53 am

Quoting FLYACYYZ (Reply 1):
There was a time flying domestically in Mexico was ultra-cheap. Granted it's several years back, but my first domestic flight within Mexico was on an AM DC-10 between ACA & MEX. Full unrestricted Y/C airfare was $19.00 one way. And no....it wasn't 1952.

$19 dollar fare? WOW, how long ago was that?

Yes Luis, its very expensive to fly within the country. El Norte newspaper said that sometimes it could be three times as much to fly MEX-GDL than international. Of course, now with Interjet, Click, and soon Volaris, those fares will have to come down.
 
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:10 am

Last september when I was in Mexico I noticed that for instance a one way from Mexico DF to GDL or ACA was around 1000 Pesos (approx. 100 US dollar) with Aerocalifornia, Azteca and Aviacsa while AM or MX would charge at least double.
In Europe and the US it's much more normal that the full service airlines match the prices of the low cost newcomers on the same route, I wonder how MX and AM can get away with charging double. Maybe MX/AM make use of their market position, or that they have clients who either don't know the other airlines or don't feel for flying them that they can charge that?
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:00 am

I flew ORD-MEX-HMO-MEX-ORD back in April 2005. The ORD-MEX-ORD portion (on Mexicana) was about $225, but the MEX-HMO-MEX leg (on AeroMexico) was over $500. I was shocked at how expensive a simple two-hour flight could be.

The one saving grace - the service on both Mexicana and AeroMexico was out of this world. Hot meals on all legs, ample legroom (in coach!), smiling flight attendants (a full crew, not just the FAA minimum we get here in the US), newspapers passed out to the passengers, candy on arrival, drink refill after drink refill, free alcohol... I could go on and on.

For service like that, I'm almost willing to pay $500. It reminded me just low how the US airlines have sunk.
 
N405MX
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:05 am

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
I hope the new LCCs help bring down these outrageous prices.

They will, for a moment, but here the new LCC´s have an advantage, they are begining from zero, this is, their labor cost are lower than MX/AM even 6A, because their "oldest" employes are 2 months old, but when they get 1 or 2 years older, they will want contract revision, income increase, and also as their unions begin to gain power (if they let them)their prices will start to rise, maybe in a mid term, also heard that some IJ pilots already are seeking for more incomes.

Also in the ticket prices count the taxes, MTY-MEX are about $50-100 USD taxes only, and MTY-TLC are only $10-20USD (aprox).

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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:36 am

Well, so far LCC's have yet not started... they are still flying very few routes and they have a very reduced fleet.... but by mid 2007 everything will be VERY DIFFERENT!!!

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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:53 am

Volaris is offering MTY-TLC-CUN in $1,899 r/t (about US$180). That requires a connection of 25 minutes in TLC.

Not bad at all.

However, 6A offers MTY-CUN non-stop for $3,100 r/t (about US$ 300)
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RE: Mexicana Domestic: Cheaper To Fly Via USA (MIA)!

Wed Feb 01, 2006 3:50 am

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 7):
they are still flying very few routes and they have a very reduced fleet....

That´s why their cost structure is very low (compared to MX/AM/6A).

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 7):
but by mid 2007 everything will be VERY DIFFERENT!!!

Really different, also as this year will be the goverment change.

Quoting Pzurita1 (Reply 8):
That requires a connection of 25 minutes in TLC.

Not bad at all.

Not bad, but, on high season, with a lot of conectin passengers and their baggage, 25 minutes will be enough?
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