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Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:05 am

Just been watching animal airport on TV and a woman had a monkey in cabin on a KLM flight from Surinam-amsterdam-LHR. On a recent ME flight BEY-ACC a business class teenager with a dog (not even in a cage). I flew with a African grey and a monkey in cabin before in the 80s (caged of course) I though animals were not allowed to fly in cabin? or do they make exception

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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:11 am

At BA, the only animals allowed on board are guide dogs for partially sighted and blind passengers however they have to be pre-arranged. All other animals need to be carried in the hold (AVIH). Regulations are different on domestic services though.

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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:17 am

Quoting Soups (Thread starter):
a woman had a monkey in cabin on a KLM flight from Surinam-amsterdam-LHR.

Officialy that's not allowed on KLM. I think she sneaked it onboard. The only animals passengers may take in the cabin (PETC) are dogs and cats up to 5kgs including the kennel. Service animals (i.e. guide dogs) are allowed as well. There is a max to the number of animals onboard. I believe it's 2, but I'm not sure.

Dogs and cats that weigh more than 5 kgs MUST be checked-in (AVIH). No other animals are allowed as checked items. That needs to travel as cargo.
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:22 am

I flew JNB-JFK a couple of years ago and a woman had a little lapdog in the business class cabin a couple of rows ahead of me. The dog never yipped once and was better behaved than some human passengers!
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting SK601 (Reply 2):
Officialy that's not allowed on KLM. I think she sneaked it onboard.

sneaked on board ?!?! what happened to security screening ? or can you sneak a monkey on board under your coat because it's not made of metal and wont set the scanner off
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:26 am

On UA you can bring a dog or cat in the cabin if it is small enough to fit comfortably in a kennel under the seat. Otherwise they must travel in the hold. You can even bring a domesticated bird on board. I sure hope I never have to listen to a bird chirping on a flight!  headache 
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:58 am

Well, here's a story. I was on a charter 727 many years ago, from MDW to FLL and a guy sitting next to me kept tight hold of a cotton bag. Halfway through the flight he opened the bag and a rooster's head stuck out.  Smile



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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:23 am

depends on the airline. usually there is a charge for carrying the animal on board and it must adhere to certain regs.
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:28 am

My flight from ATL-MCO last night had some old blue hair bringing her poodle down to the Mouse House with her. It (I didn't check under the fur) started to yap, in that annoying mini-poodle yap, as we started taxiing but shut up within a couple of minutes.

Last year a guy on the flight had a chocolate lab puppy (looked just like mine back home) on a DL MD-88. He took her out and all of us in First Class passed her around petting and playing with her until one of the stewardesses put the kibosh on that one just in case someone had allergies to dogs. No fun!

All that said, I love dogs and don't care if they are on the plane as long as they behave. I would never bring mine on board (they are too big) since they would go up to everyone just to say hello and beg for food and to be petted.

This also begs the question...if you bring a service animal on board a longhaul flight where exactly do they relieve themselves? I can just see a stewardess picking up dog poop muttering something along the lines of "this isn't in my job description."

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Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:31 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 4):
sneaked on board ?!?! what happened to security screening ?

A couple of days ago security intercepted a passenger sneaking a goldfish  Cool onto a KL flight to AUA. After much deliberation and a half hour delay  Silly it was decided higher up to allow the fish on board.

Officially only cats or dogs are allowed as either pet in cabin or in the hold.
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:38 am

About 20 years ago I read a story about Lady Beaverbrook, wife of Lord Beaverbrook, buying the entire first class cabin of a AC L-1011-500 on a YYZ-LHR flight, for herself, her sister-in-law and her dog.
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:18 am

Generally carriers use the hold to carry animals where the flight crews can adjust the temperatures in each section.

My parents told me on Monarch Scheduled you can use the hold. I don't think any of the lcc's offer this.
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:41 am

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 4):
sneaked on board

You bet people sneak pets aboard. I've seen snakes, hedgehogs, an entire litter of kittens with the mother cat, and several small dogs snuck onto flights.

Personally I feel that no animals except for those who assist the blind should be allowed in the cabin. These "medically necessary" companion animals are ridicilous.

Who can forget the fiasco at USAir when they allowed a pig to ride in the cabin because the owner had documentation that it was a companion animal? Good grief.
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:54 am

Does anyone know whether I am allowed to bring a rabbit onboard a domestic US flight? My guess is no. But will I be able to take it to the cargo hold?
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:01 am

Quoting Superhub (Reply 13):
Does anyone know whether I am allowed to bring a rabbit onboard a domestic US flight?

Every airline has its own policy.
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:13 am

There is also the infamous incident of a "service pig" being brought aboard a US Airways because someone claimed it was for emotional support, and they did have the correct paperwork. Predictably, the pig ran totally amok in first class and US Airways has vowed to never let a service pig in one of its cabins again. I am not sure, but service miniature ponies might still be ok (seriously).
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:54 am

When I moved from the east coast to the pacific northwest 3 years ago, I brought my cat into the cabin with me on a Continental flight. I paid for first, and paid an extra $80 for my cat to travel with me in the cabin. Supposedly, they allow one pet in the front cabin, 2 in the back.

Ended up being a bit of a problem in the end, because the guy sitting next to me got upgraded to first by sheer luck, but he was allergic to cats. Ended up not being a great flight for him-even after they moved me from the last row of first to the first row. He still complained about how unfairly he was treated because they allowed pets. Considering I paid for my ticket, and for my cats ticket (yes, CO gave her a reservation too!) and he got the free upgrade, and I moved seats, I just sat back and enjoyed my flight.

She slept the whole time in her carrier at my feet.

The FA's even offered her some salmon from dinner, but given that it was the first time she was at 35K feet, I felt it best to let her sleep.
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:33 am

I flew FRA-YVR on LH and there was a lady sitting a few rows ahead of me with a tabby cat. She had it in a sort of bag, (that I think was designed for the cat). She didn't seem to be hiding it (people were petting it), nor did she have any disabilites. The cat was on her lap (with the bag) for the whole flight). I guess LH is one airline that allows this...
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:57 am

United used to have specific language in its operations guide for transporting the Air Force Academy falcon in the cabin,with handler of course.Not sure if thats still the case though.
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:02 am

depends on how you classify in-laws.
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:04 am



Unsecured animals in aircraft cabins is a bad idea.




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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:28 am

Although most airlines allow this - I am sooo against it because when (not if...when) it goes bad - it goes bad - and if I paid $$ for a ride and was subjected to that for an entire flight - I'd be pissed off at humanity. I love animals - have a houseful of them - but there is no need for an animal to be on an airplane.

I would allow seeing eye animals that are well trained and that would be it. Buh bye to everyone else. Comfort animals...give me a break. If you're that screwed up - drive to where you need to be or stay home and get better  wink .
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:31 am

As long as there are no deadly king cobras, eastern browns, kings, black mambas... (take your pick) on board. Then we'll be fine.

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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:54 pm

Small dogs and cats are allowed as carry on baggage in a box that meets the regulations.

All details are contained in the IATA AVI handling manual.

However i always prefer animals as checked in baggage. What if you put you pet pooch under the seat of a passenger who is seriously alergic to animals? They would not be too happy............

Also, anyone remember the pit bull that ate its way through the lower hold of the AA flight a few years ago?? Gnashing its way through a bulkhead and into the electronics bay!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:32 pm

Before flew from LAX To YUL on the 21 of January I didn't know that people where actually allowed to bring pets onboard but I found out the hard way...the Woman next to me had a poodle and about half way through the flight the dog did what it had to IN it's little bag + puked and it gave the whole plane a great smell  Yeah sure. Although I can understand having guide dogs onboard this incident this kind of turned me against having other animals on board. But that wasn't it the lady then went to the bathroom and god knows how she managed to make a mess of the lavatory so they had to close one out of the 2 Y lavs... Anyway great being on A.net!! Big grin
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:52 pm

I was on AirTran last year - in Business Class - and some woman brought this little yappy dog onboard. It raised hell all the way from DFW to ATL. We got on our IND flight, and low and behold - there she was again. Another hour of listening to that little bastard. I was NOT happy, neither were most of the other biz class pax around me.

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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:58 pm

It kind of amuses me when people don't even bother to check, or check the wrong airline. When I worked at the ticket counter, I had a young lady check in for her flight out west, carrying a hard plastic cage with her cat inside. When asked if she was planning on bringing the cat with her, she said yes, she read on our website that we took pets for a $40 charge. I promptly pulled up the page on our intranet, printed it up and handed it to her. I think she must've checked NW instead of WN. Little kitty went home with the friend dropping her off. And just yesterday I denied boarding to another young lady who kind of looked at me dumbfounded, like "You mean I can't take my dog?" She just assumed. Silly passengers. I could fill this board with stupid passenger stories.

Just for the record, WN allows only assistance animals. I think moneys are included in there, but I've never seen one. Any emotional assistance animals require documentation from a mental heath specialist. We do sometimes check up on these, if a situation seems fishy. We've had a letter from a chiropractor okaying a golden retriever, and a couple of weeks ago, a letter on falsified letterhead. Always fun booting people off...
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:38 pm

I recently bought my 5-foot iguana  biggrin  on AA from ORD to SFO........but she was placed in the cargo though...

it was a bit expensive ($180.00)...but well worth it..when I got to SFO, she was just fine...

I fail to see why people don't do more of that...part of the cargo where live animals are placed is heated and pressurised.........
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:27 pm

It's very common for Falcons to travel in cabin on intra-Gulf flights and nobody takes a lot of notice until it stretches it's wings Sad
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:30 pm

Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 12):
These "medically necessary" companion animals are ridicilous.

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Now that the idea of airlines accepting "comfort animals" for free has taken hold, more and more people are claiming this of their pets at the ticket counter in an attempt to circumvent the fees for AVIH/PETC transport.

And unfortunately, since airlines are so damned afraid of getting sued, agents are not permitted to (correctly, IMHO) say "You have GOT to be f***ing kidding!" when someone attempts to get their poodle onboard for free because it soothes their nerves or whatever BS line they toss out.
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:27 pm

A Horizon Air flight came in at the South Sattelite at SEA a few months ago from Victoria (and before I get flamed, yes, QX does fly SEA-YYJ and YYJ-SEA several times a day). On this particular flight in question, two guide dogs with trainers deplaned. Apparently the passengers with the dogs kept them on the floor under their feet...considering that it was a Dash 8-200...and that the dogs were rather large...ouch!!!
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:37 am

The reason some people are wary of putting pets in the hold is the large amount of pet deaths that has occured due to airline negligence in recent years. I believe Delta killed a group of German Shepards on their way to show about 2 years ago.

I personally was on a Delta flight where they sent someone's dog to Atlanta instead of Boston and left it there. The agent couldn't have been more callous about explaining it. When the person asked if the dog was being looked-after the agent replied "how should I know?"...
 
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RE: Animals In Cabin... Allowed?

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:53 am

Quoting AndrewUber (Reply 25):
I was on AirTran last year - in Business Class - and some woman brought this little yappy dog onboard.

AirTran only promises you won't have any sheep in Business Class.
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