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Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:20 am

The Chicago Tribune is reporting a crash at PWK (Palwaukee). Friends are telling me now that it's on Wolf Road somewhere south of the airport. Does anyone know anything?
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:55 am

Just saw the scroll on WGN it was a twin engine prop, four are dead, more info to come.


It was a twin engine cessna
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...50.story?coll=chi-newsbreaking-hed

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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:11 am

N920MC would likely be the candidate, a Ce421B that was due in from Olathe, KS at 6:23pm local...


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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:20 am

Just read about it on www.chicagotribune.com

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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:37 pm

Wow I live a couple of miles from there. This is terrible
 
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:51 pm

It sounds like the plane went down between Wolf and the train tracks off of Alderman, or about a mile south of the field. That's not a normal place for a plane to be approaching 6 (I assume he was approaching 6). The only arrival or departure that goes over that part of Wheeling/Prospect Heights routinely is one of the departures for smaller planes from 34... interesting.

From all the media reports, whatever happened to the plane sounds pretty catastrophic... not just running out of gas or screwing up the approach or something like that. May those involved rest in peace.
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:00 pm

A plane that size would most likely be using 34 for landing.

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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:03 pm

Quoting Flyingbronco05 (Reply 6):
A plane that size would most likely be using 34 for landing.

That's what the Tribune said too, but he wasn't close to 34. Only time will explain.
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:19 am

I was watching the news today and noticed they showed this surveilance camera feed of the plane crashing, it showed the plane at an angle with it's gear down. Then I heard that it was some local people who died and one of them was the owner of Sybaris resorts which provides romantic getaways for married couples. Here is a link if they want to see the video
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=local&id=3863890
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:02 am

On the local news tonight, one of the pax was reported as the owner/president of the Sybiris "Resorts". Two of the other pax worked for Morgan Stanley at the offices in the Discover Financial building in Riverwoods, that was announced today on our intranet site, but as of yet their names have not been released to the public (but they were published on the Discover intranet site).
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:11 pm

From the description of eyewitnesses and the video I would definitely say that with a fireball of that size fuel starvation would not be an issue.
It looks like a stall/spin accident to me. Was there any low level icing in the area at the time of the crash?

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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:25 pm

Quoting Type-Rated (Reply 10):
It looks like a stall/spin accident to me. Was there any low level icing in the area at the time of the crash?

It was about 35 and dry at the time of the accident.... not ripe for low-level icing. Based on pictures published today, both engines appear to have been running and on fire at the time of impact.
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RE: Crash At/near Kpwk?

Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:38 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 11):
both engines appear to have been running and on fire at the time of impact

Wow, that puts a whole new perspective on things. A multiple engine fire would be an extremely rare event. If both engines were truly on fire, then the crew may have been distracted with that emergency and didn't keep a close eye on their speed. Result, Stall/Spin accident. Usually these are indicated by an aircraft wreckage being confined to a small area, rather than having a long debris field.

Horrible accident though. We'll have to wait until the final NTSB report comes out.
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