flyinghippo
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Why The Difference Between EK's A345 And B773ERs

Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:01 am

Was looking at the cabin pictures for EK's interiors, and I noticed the sharp difference between their A345s and their B773ER's F and J class.

F class of EK's A345 has their famous private "suites" complete with a sliding door, their new B773ERs has a mini-bar, it's nice... but just doesn't seem as nice as their F class suites on A345s... I'm sure 773ER can fit a few of those in, or at least those VS upper class seats look nicer than EK's F seats on their 773ERs.


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Biz class is even more contrasting... Just take a look and you'll understand...


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I'm assuming that EK uses both plane types for long flights, so they'd make it as comfortable as possible (at least for the F/J pax....) Anyone knows why??
 
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RE: Why The Difference Between EK's A345 And B773ERs

Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:48 am

The A345s are used on longer routes than the 773ER, which has to serve a wider variety of longhaul distances. I´m pretty sure the 772LRs will have similar comfort than the A345, as they will be used on new, even longer flights (to LA for example).
And the upcoming A346s will be similar to the 773ERs.
 
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RE: Why The Difference Between EK's A345 And B773ERs

Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:15 am

Apparently, the current B773ERs that EK have are not equipped with crew rests and are meant for "shorter" sectors (although they are also used on flights to Australia, these are not the non-stop flights but rather those stopping in BKK or SIN). Newer B773ERs to be delivered will be equipped with crew rests and an interior matching the A345s and these will fly to New York, replacing the A345s on one of the twice daily flights.
 
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Crosswind
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RE: Why The Difference Between EK's A345 And B773ERs

Wed Feb 01, 2006 9:50 am

Emirates current B777-300ER fleet are being used to increase capacity and/or remove payload restrictions from shorter routes currently served by the B777/A330 fleets.

As such they are currently used on flights to DUS/GLA/JNB/LHR/MAN as well as the DXB-BKK-SYD-AKL route; so the aircraft is currently being used on flights with block times between 3:05 (SYD/AKL) and 8:30 (JNB)

So although some pax will travel all the way through to AKL on that particular route, the majority of 77W passengers with Emirates will only really be experiencing fairly short-sectors, in long-haul terms. As a result the cabins are far less luxurious than the A340-500s which generally operate on sectors of 13hrs plus.

I always think criticism of Emirates configurations somewhat unfair, given their geographical location and network the vast majority of their long-haul sectors are in the 6-8hr range, far shorter than the majority of carriers in other parts of the world such as Europe and the USA, where sectors of 10hrs plus are far more common. As a result much of their A330/B777 fleets are configured in line with the shorter nature of Emirates operations with higher density F/C cabins, more similar to Asian regional ops than worldwide long-haul operations...

True the competition often have better configured premium cabins on routes to/from DXB, but then like Emirates their aircraft are configured to meet their own networks, which generally consist of longer sectors than Emirates average.

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RE: Why The Difference Between EK's A345 And B773ERs

Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:54 pm

Quoting Crosswind (Reply 3):
I always think criticism of Emirates configurations somewhat unfair, given their geographical location and network the vast majority of their long-haul sectors are in the 6-8hr range, far shorter than the majority of carriers in other parts of the world such as Europe and the USA, where sectors of 10hrs plus are far more common. As a result much of their A330/B777 fleets are configured in line with the shorter nature of Emirates operations with higher density F/C cabins, more similar to Asian regional ops than worldwide long-haul operations...

I quite agree and if you look at the latest press releases on the status of their cabin configurations you'll note that the Biz class seat pitches are 60 inches - which are actually more generous than the Raffles Class Spacebeds on the SQ B744s and B772ERs.