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SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:26 pm

From an SQ press release dated 2 February 2006:
"Singapore Airlines will take delivery of two Airbus A380-800s and six Boeing 777-300ERs, and de-commission six B747-400s, during 2006, thereby increasing the operating fleet to 92 passenger aircraft by 31 December 2006. The first Airbus A380-800 and the first Boeing 777-300ER are expected to be delivered in November 2006."
http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/en_U...any_info/press_release/NR_0106.jsp
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:31 pm

Nice to see that SQ is getting B777-300ERs!!!! And by November! Will they add new destinations because of these new aircraft or will they simply replace the 747-400 by 777-300?

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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:39 pm

Quoting STARalliance24 (Reply 1):
Will they add new destinations because of these new aircraft or will they simply replace the 747-400 by 777-300?

Replacing six JumboJets with two WhaleJets and six B777-300ERs is an overall increase in capacity. It would be a safe guess that either new destinations will be added or frequencies will be increased on existing routes or both.
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:59 pm

So does the addition of the second airbus type have any bearing on if the A345 will be replaced with 772LR
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:16 pm

Quoting BWIA 772 (Reply 3):
So does the addition of the second airbus type have any bearing on if the A345 will be replaced with 772LR

No, the main determinant will be the price and terms that Boeing offer to SQ. If SQ like the deal, they'll buy the B777-200LR. If they don't like the deal, they won't buy it.
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:48 pm

will SQ be converting these 6 B 744s into freighters or will they dry lease them out to interested carriers such as AI, 9W etc?
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:09 pm

Quoting STARalliance24 (Reply 1):
Nice to see that SQ is getting B777-300ERs!!!! And by November! Will they add new destinations because of these new aircraft or will they simply replace the 747-400 by 777-300?

Another possibility, could be that with a 2 (extra) aircraft buffer, SQ could start refurbishing some of the B744s it intends to retain till 2010 (or whatever the date was), so that the new product can be rolled out to other destinations as soon as possible.
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:18 pm

What destinations are the new aircraft destined for, I'm guessing LHR for the A380 but I could be wrong and what about the 777-300ER ?

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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:24 pm

I could be wrong, but a while back I understood that they got ride of the other A-340s because they didn't like them. Do they like their new Airbuses?
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:56 pm

Quoting NZCH (Reply 7):
I'm guessing LHR for the A380

If I remember correctly SQ said that 2 out of the 3 SIN-LHR flights will be A380 operated. One will operate the SYD-SIN sector then operate the SIN-LHR sector
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:33 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Thread starter):
six Boeing 777-300ERs



Quoting Zvezda (Thread starter):
first Boeing 777-300ER are expected to be delivered in November 2006

So they will receive 6 77W's in two months? I did'nt know the production rate was this high, or is it a small error?

Quoting Dreamflight767 (Reply 8):
I could be wrong, but a while back I understood that they got ride of the other A-340s because they didn't like them. Do they like their new Airbuses?

Also because Boeing gave them a great deal on the 772's in a controversial buy-back scheme of the a343's. But SQ is extremely happy with the 772's, hence their huge fleet.
I guess they are happy enough with the a345's, because they opened up a non-stop market that was unavailable before, and IIRC the load-factor and yield on these flights was good. Of course the 772LR is capable of carrying more cargo, but only SQ knows if it's worth the investment. Time will tell.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:02 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 10):
Also because Boeing gave them a great deal on the 772's in a controversial buy-back scheme of the a343's

Why is it controversial?

If you don't particularly agree with the idea, then thats your opinion.. but don't go labelling it a controversial deal unless you have evidence to show that not all was above board, as the description controversial intimates.

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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:36 pm

Quoting GARPD (Reply 11):
Why is it controversial?

If you don't particularly agree with the idea, then thats your opinion.. but don't go labelling it a controversial deal unless you have evidence to show that not all was above board, as the description controversial intimates.

LOL!!! That is amazing. The deal was extremely controversial as Airbus threatened to withdraw any service on the aircraft involved if Boeing re-marketed them. However, after several outburst from other carriers and the threat of litigation, Airbus relented. Especially when EK agreed to take some of the aircraft.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:43 pm

I'm booked to fly on Singapore Airlines in December and January from LHR - MEL and SYD - LHR, lets hope for a brand spanking new A380.  crossfingers 

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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:58 pm

Quoting Kappel (Reply 10):
So they will receive 6 77W's in two months? I did'nt know the production rate was this high, or is it a small error?

Boeing can produce three B777s per month.

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 13):
I'm booked to fly on Singapore Airlines in December and January from LHR - MEL and SYD - LHR, lets hope for a brand spanking new A380.

SQ317/SQ322 will get the WhaleJet. SQ320/SQ321 might get the WhaleJet. SQ318/SQ319 will not get the WhaleJet -- at least for the next several years.
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:02 pm

Quoting Zvezda (Thread starter):
The first Airbus A380-800 and the first Boeing 777-300ER are expected to be delivered in November 2006."

So that means SQ should have the A380 running for the holiday season. Some initially thought that the A380s would not enter service until Jan 2007. Good job by Airbus  checkmark 
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:25 pm

Quoting Tifoso (Reply 15):
So that means SQ should have the A380 running for the holiday season. Some initially thought that the A380s would not enter service until Jan 2007. Good job by Airbus

They will take delivery of them, however, that doesn't mean they will enter revenue service. Right now the plan is to have them in service perhaps in the last week of Dec 2006!
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:26 pm

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 5):
will SQ be converting these 6 B 744s into freighters or will they dry lease them out to interested carriers such as AI, 9W etc?

My question too, Behramjee. Given SQ's maintenance standards, these aircraft should be able to bring top dollar if sold, leased, or converted.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:40 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 12):
LOL!!! That is amazing. The deal was extremely controversial as Airbus threatened to withdraw any service on the aircraft involved if Boeing re-marketed them. However, after several outburst from other carriers and the threat of litigation, Airbus relented. Especially when EK agreed to take some of the aircraft.

Well, when you put it that way.... lol

But that doesn't make the deal itself controversial in my opinion.

However, Airbus reaction to it did seem like a really "spoiled child" thing to do. Glad they grew up quick and withdrew their threat.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:47 pm

Quoting GARPD (Reply 18):
But that doesn't make the deal itself controversial in my opinion.

It all depends on what one means by "controversial". The traditional meaning described a question for which a good argument could be made on both sides. Now it's often (mis?)used to mean any sort of dispute. By the former meaning, SQ's A340-300 deal was not controversial, since there was no good argument on Airbus' side. By the latter meaning, the deal certainly was controversial.

So, you're both right.  Smile
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:36 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 16):
They will take delivery of them, however, that doesn't mean they will enter revenue service. Right now the plan is to have them in service perhaps in the last week of Dec 2006!

Oh!

I thought they would get the frames in the first week of November and enter service in the first or second week of December.
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:44 am

Quoting Kappel (Reply 10):
So they will receive 6 77W's in two months? I did'nt know the production rate was this high, or is it a small error?

Production rate of the 777 is headed to seven per month, but they probably won't be quite that high at the end of 2006.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:25 am

Any info on SQ replacing their A345s with the 777LR? or do they still have to work out a deal?
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:27 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 16):
They will take delivery of them, however, that doesn't mean they will enter revenue service. Right now the plan is to have them in service perhaps in the last week of Dec 2006!

Was not SQ planning on running the first pair of A388s SFO-HKG? I believe you commented they were afraid it might not be able to make the trip with a full-load (during Winter?), so would they instead run it MEL/SYD-SIN-LHR first to "test" it out and get a feel for how she performs?
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:43 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):
Was not SQ planning on running the first pair of A388s SFO-HKG? I believe you commented they were afraid it might not be able to make the trip with a full-load (during Winter?), so would they instead run it MEL/SYD-SIN-LHR first to "test" it out and get a feel for how she performs?

HKG-SFO is little over 6000NM, what do you mean with "not make it"??
Should be a nothing more than a formality to fly this stretch for the A380!
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:52 am

Quoting KLMCedric (Reply 24):
HKG-SFO is little over 6000NM, what do you mean with "not make it"??
Should be a nothing more than a formality to fly this stretch for the A380!

I agree it should be a cake-walk, yet some folks who work for flight-ops/pilots in SQ have said there were some "concerns" about it being able to do it at the ~470 pax and cargo loads they want. I want to say it was PhilSquares I heard the comment from, but it might have been someone else.

And I am not offering the comment up as a swipe at Airbus or the A380, so those who wear their hearts on their sleeves please refrain from the verbal backhanding.

I'm just trying to clarify, for my own education if nothing else, if SQ plans to launch SFO-HKG as the first flight (as I had heard) or if the plan was now to launch London-Australia service, and then move on to the trans-Pacific ops, later. And if LON-OZ is the "new" plan, were the concerns I have heard expressed about trans-Pacific ops the reason.

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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:07 am

Slightly off topic but can anyone give me a breakdown of where each type in the SQ fleet is currently used and how it is configured?
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:09 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 12):
Especially when EK agreed to take some of the aircraft.

CX was really the turning point...

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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:10 am

Quoting Kappel (Reply 10):
Of course the 772LR is capable of carrying more cargo, but only SQ knows if it's worth the investment. Time will tell.

well....there was an SQ pilot on the "longest flight in the world" by the -200LR a few months ago...

I did read that PK's 2 pilots absolutely loved it.....maybe that will imbue SQ to get a few.. yes 
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 28):
I did read that PK's 2 pilots absolutely loved it.....maybe that will imbue SQ to get a few.

Haha... how, exactly, will PK influence SQ?

Its a 777. It flies like a 777. SQ's pilots are already well familiar with it.

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Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:26 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 29):

Haha... how, exactly, will PK influence SQ?

Its a 777. It flies like a 777. SQ's pilots are already well familiar with it.

that's why I used "imbue"...as it is nothing more than a "mind prodding"... Wink

also, from what I read, they had enough fuel to fly another 470nm miles (might have been statute miles and not nm, but I'm pretty sure it was nm) but couldn't as they had declared their mission statement in advance (which they had to)..so even if they flew to ZRH, they would have only been credited to LHR...

this to me indicates possibly, to a certain extent, that the fuel burn was just a little bit better than expected (possibly)........

could be the difference between a "yay" and "nay"
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:29 am

Quoting Highflyer9790 (Reply 22):
Any info on SQ replacing their A345s with the 777LR? or do they still have to work out a deal?

SQ have not yet announced a B777-200LR deal. The expectation is that a deal will be annnounced this month.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):
Was not SQ planning on running the first pair of A388s SFO-HKG?

Yes, more than a year ago that was the plan.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):
I believe you commented they were afraid it might not be able to make the trip with a full-load (during Winter?)

SFO-HKG often has very severe headwinds during the winter. CX and SQ are both reportedly concerned about the payload capability of the WhaleJet on the route (as well as LAX-HKG in CX's case).
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:08 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 23):
Was not SQ planning on running the first pair of A388s SFO-HKG? I believe you commented they were afraid it might not be able to make the trip with a full-load (during Winter?), so would they instead run it MEL/SYD-SIN-LHR first to "test" it out and get a feel for how she performs?

Right now the first two will do SIN-SYD. With the third plane in the rotation they will then add LHR.

Quoting KLMCedric (Reply 24):
HKG-SFO is little over 6000NM, what do you mean with "not make it"??
Should be a nothing more than a formality to fly this stretch for the A380

You're right, the direct NO-WIND mileage is 6019. However, the problem is that there is never a direct routing so the actual mileage is greater. Secondly there is a wind problem. In the winter time the "wind corrected" distance is well over 7000NM. The 380 can't do it full on a consistent basis.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 25):
I'm just trying to clarify, for my own education if nothing else, if SQ plans to launch SFO-HKG as the first flight (as I had heard) or if the plan was now to launch London-Australia service, and then move on to the trans-Pacific ops, later. And if LON-OZ is the "new" plan, were the concerns I have heard expressed about trans-Pacific ops the reason.

Please see above. So the plan now is SYD-SIN-LHR. There are no real plans for the 380 to do SQ1/2 at this time.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:21 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 32):
However, the problem is that there is never a direct routing so the actual mileage is greater. Secondly there is a wind problem. In the winter time the "wind corrected" distance is well over 7000NM. The 380 can't do it full on a consistent basis.

Did Airbus initially promise that it would be able to do so?
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:49 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 32):
You're right, the direct NO-WIND mileage is 6019. However, the problem is that there is never a direct routing so the actual mileage is greater. Secondly there is a wind problem. In the winter time the "wind corrected" distance is well over 7000NM. The 380 can't do it full on a consistent basis.

How badly does this condition affect the 744's loads?
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:55 am

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 30):
also, from what I read, they had enough fuel to fly another 470nm miles (might have been statute miles and not nm, but I'm pretty sure it was nm) but couldn't as they had declared their mission statement in advance (which they had to)..so even if they flew to ZRH, they would have only been credited to LHR...

and they also had to use special fuel, though they ended up not taking off with full tanks of the stuff as CX couldn't get them all the special stuff they needed which apparently had to come from the US and which CX had initially said they could help bring over but couldn't in the end. Plus they had to wash the dirty plane and take off several hundred pounds of grime. All of which may make another few hundred miles a moot point if they used standard fuel and you had your average garden variety dirty airliner!
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:02 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 34):
How badly does this condition affect the 744's loads?

The 744 can do it on a very regular basis. The only real problem is when the winds approach 99% worst case. In those cases, SQ will stop at TPE for a quick (45 min) tech stop.
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:08 am

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 35):
and they also had to use special fuel, though they ended up not taking off with full tanks of the stuff as CX couldn't get them all the special stuff they needed which apparently had to come from the US and which CX had initially said they could help bring over but couldn't in the end. Plus they had to wash the dirty plane and take off several hundred pounds of grime. All of which may make another few hundred miles a moot point if they used standard fuel and you had your average garden variety dirty airliner!

And didn't they also have the additional 3 fuel tanks in the cargo bay, which to my knowledge no-one has ordered?
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:37 am

Does the SIN-SFO route get high enough loads to warrant the A380??
I thought it was a plane that was always bought for the 'big' routes SIN-LHR & SIN-SYD etc. Also has anybody heard which cities will get the aircraft for the first few weeks locally? My guess is that if receive their first aircraft in late 06, they'll put it on SIN-HKG type routes for the first few weeks for crew training before the long-haul routes open up in 07??
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:45 am

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 38):
Does the SIN-SFO route get high enough loads to warrant the A380??

It a major hub for United which is their Star Alliance partner. Northern California is the home to high tech and a big financial sector which generates a lot of business traffic--i.e. gold mine.

Also consider that San Francisco has upgraded its facilities specifically for the A380...I think they have or will have 6 gates that will be able to handle that airplane.

Despite its relatively small population, San Francisco is a logical place to send A380s.
 
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:45 am

Quoting Trex8 (Reply 35):
and they also had to use special fuel, though they ended up not taking off with full tanks of the stuff as CX couldn't get them all the special stuff they needed which apparently had to come from the US and which CX had initially said they could help bring over but couldn't in the end. Plus they had to wash the dirty plane and take off several hundred pounds of grime. All of which may make another few hundred miles a moot point if they used standard fuel and you had your average garden variety dirty airliner!

good call..I completely forgot about that....so I guess that's a scratch...regardless.....it did very well.............................

unlike AF, at least SQ likes to keep their planes clean, and being a niche plane, maybe they will pay some extra attention to it....... Smile
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:54 am

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 36):
The 744 can do (SFO-HKG) on a very regular basis. The only real problem is when the winds approach 99% worst case. In those cases, SQ will stop at TPE for a quick (45 min) tech stop.

Do you happen to know how many cargo/pax the A380 would have to drop to make it when the winds are unfavorable? And how close it would bring an A388 to a 748 and 744?
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:40 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 41):
And how close it would bring an A388 to a 748 and 744?

In the standard Boeing configuration, the 748 will make it all year round. SQ doesn't block seats because of the problems that causes. Instead, they will book the aircraft and do a tech stop if necessary.

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 38):
Does the SIN-SFO route get high enough loads to warrant the A380??

SQ1/2 is one of SQ's premier routes. Along with the SIN-LHR, SIN-Australia and SQ11/12 (NRT). The route and the yield justifies a larger aircraft.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:55 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 42):
SQ1/2 is one of SQ's premier routes.

does SQ get any freedom rights on SQ 1/2 or SQ 15/16?

Interesting that SQ's 1/2 gets is one of its premier routes as it seems it is in direct competition with CX 872/873
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:26 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 43):
does SQ get any freedom rights on SQ 1/2 or SQ 15/16?

Yes, most, if not all of SQ's transpacs have fifth-freedom rights. SQ 1/2 (HKG) and SQ 11/12 (NRT) do extremely well in terms of both pax load and yield. The premium cabins are normally 85% plus.
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:38 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 44):

Yes, most, if not all of SQ's transpacs have fifth-freedom rights. SQ 1/2 (HKG) and SQ 11/12 (NRT) do extremely well in terms of both pax load and yield. The premium cabins are normally 85% plus.

very interesting....thanks for the information.. Smile

.......do you foresee SQ 15/16 going from a 772 to a 773 or a 744?

Any -200LR's or 747-8I's in the horizon?


more interesting (ok..i'm being a bit greedy here so I hope you don't mind)...do you know the pilot who was on the -200LR record flight?
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Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:57 pm

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 45):
do you foresee SQ 15/16 going from a 772 to a 773 or a 744?

I could see it going to a 773ER, but not a 744. There just isn't the demand.

Couldn't tell you who the pilot's were on the 772LR flight, although I do know they were the pilots involved with the certification process.

If you believe the rumors floating around STC, the 787 is a given and the 748F is also a given. I wouldn't rule out the 748I either.
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:25 pm

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 46):

I could see it going to a 773ER, but not a 744. There just isn't the demand.

that would actually be quite nice, as there aren't any 773's flying to SFO yet...

Quoting PhilSquares (Reply 46):
If you believe the rumors floating around STC, the 787 is a given and the 748F is also a given. I wouldn't rule out the 748I either.

interesting information....the 748I rumour was the one which has been going around for a while...the 747I would rock ...so would the 787 and -200LR.. bigthumbsup 

thank you very much for the information...and good evening.. Smile
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:27 pm

flyjetstar i can tell which routes are which aircraft
 
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RE: SQ Fleet Changes For 2006

Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:52 pm

Quoting Mattlancs (Reply 48):
flyjetstar i can tell which routes are which aircraft

That would be great.
I was just meaning 773's are used on ......, 772's are used on.... that kind of thing.

I was curious as the various 744 layouts and why that is the case.