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Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:43 pm

Hi,

with sadness I heard about Cerrillos closure to public and private traffic. Now I will be in my beloved second home yountry Chile again in march till april and wonder about the current fate of Cerrillos?`
Any alterations yet? Where have all the planes been transfered to? Where's the Catalina? The red DC-3 ...? What about the musem ... so many questions!

Any chilean Insider can give me some update?

I'm also very interested in meeting fellow Chilean A.netters in Santiago! What about a Santiago airport tour?

Saludos!
Mario
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:33 am

I remember seeing this airport on the map when I visited Santiago, several years ago. Was it actually a commercial airport before SCL was built? I'm curious about the general history of this field...
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:19 am

And it's finally true:

I one of the most mistaken decisions taken by any Chilean government, Los Cerrillos Airport, the first international airport of Santiago (ULC / SCTI) was closed tonight at 21.00 local time.
It was also the venue of FIDAE air show, which will from now held in SCL

SCL second runway is not doing properly, and much minor aviation is in jeopardize. Government argues that ULC is old, expensive and unnecessary, as others claim that SCL will collapse in less than 10 years.

For adding complexity to the issue, Santiago is surrounded by hills, so it's very hard to find a suitable place for another airport, which sooner or later will be necessary as well.

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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:51 am

It's interesting that Santiago hasn't followed the lead of B.A. (EZE/AEP) or Sao Paulo (GRU/CGH). There's certainly plenty of precedent for a local aiport and a big international airport. SCL is a great facility, but getting there, especially from the east side of Santiago, isn't very much fun (it's better now than it was a year ago, but still...) I find it hard to believe that ULC is as expensive as the Chilean government claims.

P.S. Some of those pics are gorgeous, especially the one of the FACH plane.
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 1:43 pm

Very interesting. When exactly where the flights transfered from Los Cerrillos to what is Arturo Benitez

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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:06 pm

Yeah, I read the article in the Mercurio as well. Where have all the smaller airplanes been transfered to? Like the Aeromet Jetstream, the Catalina or the red DC-3. Is the all white african B707 still in storage there, and what about the Museum .. will it remain in ULC??

Saludos!!!!

Mario
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:03 am

Sad for Chilean aviation. On another note, was the second runway at SCL really needed? I mean, who is going to argue that it is not beneficial, but ca'mon, SCL doesn't see that much traffic. Perhaps the construction of 17R/35L was only in preparation for closing ULC? Also, what problems are they having with this runway? How is it not operating well? SCL collapse in 10 years? Ralla la papa firme, este.
 
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:55 am

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 3):
SCL is a great facility, but getting there, especially from the east side of Santiago, isn't very much fun

Not really, with the new highways SCL is more less 30 minutes away of most Santiago's places

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 4):
Very interesting. When exactly where the flights transfered from Los Cerrillos to what is Arturo Benitez

The transfer to SCL is minor, mostly Air Force operation. I don't know what's gonna happen with minor airlines that flies to Juan Fernandez Island or regional flights. Most of private aviation was moved to Tobalaba air flield, in the east side ("oriente") of the city

Quoting Mason (Reply 6):
was the second runway at SCL really needed? I

Yes, SCL is pretty collapsed at peak hours, both runways and facilities. It have been measured people waiting in line for more than 1 hour at immigration and sanitary process.
Many of those services have been modified inside the terminal for faster attention, but at the current expansion, the worst budgets predict passenger collapse in 10 years.

I still believe that ULC must prevail, invest in a proper terminal and be used as regional airport, as AEP.

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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 4):
When exactly where the flights transfered from Los Cerrillos to what is Arturo Benitez

I believe the present-day SCL was opened in 1967. Back in the 1960s and 1970s new airports were springing up all over South America - Bogota, Lima, Santa Cruz, Maracaibo, Manaus, etc.
 
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:03 pm

Quoting Latinplane (Reply 4):
When exactly where the flights transfered from Los Cerrillos to what is Arturo Benitez

Actually, I think LAN dropped ULC in 78, and Ladeco did it in 83.

The last regular "major" airline from and to ULC was ALTA in the 90s.

LA and UC did used ULC sometimes when Santiago hosted international meetings and SCL was crowded with presidentials a/c, so for a mater of security, some operations were transferred to Cerrillos
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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:23 am

My sympathy to Cerillos....I will miss it too!

I have been there a couple of times and i enjoyed it very much. I really can not understand the government for this closure. AFAI, future president of Chile, Mrs Michele Bachelet (formally in charge of the Defense Office) was asked to intervene in this matter, as she was against closure.

Not only that SCL today - even with 2 runways - is pretty collapsed at peak hours, but there is also no other alternative for emergencies or alternatives (Airshows, Summits, Military, General Aviation). Antofagasta in the north and Concepcion in the south are too far away.

Quoting LH526 (Reply 5):
Where have all the smaller airplanes been transferred to?

I read that they will be transferred to Aerodromo Tobalaba....right?

Quoting LH526 (Thread starter):
I'm also very interested in meeting fellow Chilean A.netters in Santiago! What about a Santiago airport tour?

Mario, i?m flying from March 02nd to 17th. Would be great to meet!

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RE: Santiago Los Cerrillos .. What Fate?

Sun Feb 12, 2006 9:38 pm

Quoting Aero (Reply 10):
Mario, i?m flying from March 02nd to 17th. Would be great to meet!

Hooola Pablo! Long time no chat! Off course It would be great to meat you in Chile! Though we only live and work some few 100 miles apart, we only came we first have to cross half the globe for a meeting!  Smile
I will contact you via email / PM for my detailed schedule.

Mario
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