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Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:38 am

I have a 767-300 on Monday from PBI to ATL. I dont know any other airline that has such large planes on short routes. Love it.

[Edited 2006-02-09 19:39:18]
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:26 am

It's no international config though. Expect the standard Domestic service. They also fly like 20 of them to Florida daily. I actually prefer the 764 to FLL - It is one of my favorite aircraft, even thoug DL did a poor job configuring it.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:34 am

Yeah, I flew DL on a domestic 763. They're a fairly unique airline in some ways, at least for plane spotters in the US. WN is quite frankly the best run airline I've ever delt with, but from a aircraft fan's perspective they are just plain dull as nails. Having DL around helps keep things interesting, even though they don't fly anything big into SAT.*


* Not meant to imply that they should
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:55 am

With your title you're just begging for a flame war from some of the DL-haters on here. DL's main reason for flying the big metal down to Florida is because of capacity. They funnel so many people in and out of the state it is ridiculous. Many of them are headed to the Mouse House or other touristy traps in my homestate. Up until December they had a 777 on the MCO route twice a day. That was always a nice one to fly home on since I always got the upgrade into BizElite for the short hop.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:41 am

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 1):
I actually prefer the 764 to FLL - It is one of my favorite aircraft, even thoug DL did a poor job configuring it

Only the F cabin, which, hopefully, when they reconfigure to BE, will be much better.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 4):
Only the F cabin, which, hopefully, when they reconfigure to BE, will be much better.

Only 8 of the 767-400ERs will be reconfigured with BusinessElite seating. These aircraft will be used on the international routes. The rest of them will remain in the current configuration, and will remain on domestic routes.

Also, the 767-300ERs in domestic configuration will be converted to international with BusinessElite. The non-ERs will remain in domestic configuration.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:56 am

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 5):

Also, the 767-300ERs in domestic configuration will be converted to international with BusinessElite. The non-ERs will remain in domestic configuration.

Um...I didn't know that *any* 763ERs were using the domestic configuration. I was pretty sure they all had BE.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:48 am

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 6):
Um...I didn't know that *any* 763ERs were using the domestic configuration. I was pretty sure they all had BE

No, DL had a handfull...i want to say 6 or so 763s that were delivered in the late 90s in domestic config. These are all to be converted to BizElite soon, if not already being configured.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:48 am

p.s....i think you copied my name..but it's cool  Smile
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:52 am

Quoting Delta4eva (Reply 7):
No, DL had a handfull...i want to say 6 or so 763s that were delivered in the late 90s in domestic config. These are all to be converted to BizElite soon, if not already being configured.

IIRC DL has 8 DL 767-300ERs in a domestic configuration.

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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:50 am

I like flying Delta due to the fact that you can fly a 767 to most big cities. And along with the MD88, the 767 offers 2 seating instead of the 3-3 seating most airlines offer with 737s, 319s, 320s.
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:18 am

Quoting Delta4eva (Reply 7):
No, DL had a handfull...i want to say 6 or so 763s that were delivered in the late 90s in domestic config. These are all to be converted to BizElite soon, if not already being configured.

some were actually delivered after 2000. not sure why they weren't fitted with the 764 interior tho.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:50 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 3):
With your title you're just begging for a flame war from some of the DL-haters on here.

Yup, you got it.

With the pilots threatening a strike (= financial suicide/joblessness/union honor upheld/in dred with my last 150K miles, etc)

I think I'm going to be sick. Other than that, have a pleasant flight. At least it is a short haul.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:53 am

It starts. And it only took 11 replies.

Thanks a hell of a lot, DeltaGator!  Wink



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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:01 am

I do what I can. I think we are some of the only DL fans on here most days.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:04 am

Quoting GeorgiaAME (Reply 12):
Yup, you got it.

With the pilots threatening a strike (= financial suicide/joblessness/union honor upheld/in dred with my last 150K miles, etc)

I think I'm going to be sick.

No, you ARE sick. Ever wonder why no one takes you seriously?

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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:23 am

I've got a DL 764 out of Tampa in March. Very excited about that, eventhough it is only short-haul! Plus, I have never flown on this aricraft type...Any good seat suggestions (other than first)?
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:46 am

Quoting Gatorman96 (Reply 16):
I've got a DL 764 out of Tampa in March. Very excited about that, eventhough it is only short-haul! Plus, I have never flown on this aricraft type...Any good seat suggestions (other than first)?

The best seats are seats 10F and 10G. These are the crew rest seats used on HNL flights. They have extra legroom and footrests.

If you can't get those seats, then I would go with seats 33 C, D, or E.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:49 am

I just flew DL Tues/Weds ewr-cvg-lga and once again was treated to typical DL service. Polite, quick and always with a smile. Was in 1D on the outbound 738 and 2A on the inbound MD88.

My only gripe ever about Delta is why can't they put those damn winged headrests on the fleets??

Otto & others who work for DL, thanks again for great flights!!!
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:51 am

The best seats on the 764 are actually 7E & 7F
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:52 am

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 1):
I actually prefer the 764 to FLL - It is one of my favorite aircraft, even thoug DL did a poor job configuring it.

Agreed 100%

Quoting Mudboy (Reply 10):
And along with the MD88, the 767 offers 2 seating instead of the 3-3 seating most airlines offer with 737s, 319s, 320s.

What are you trying to say? DL doesn't do anything special in regards to the way they have chose to equip the interiors of any of the a/c you mention that they operate in this sentence compared to anyone (in the USA) except CO for the 767 if you are talking about seating.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:56 am

Quoting Fanoftristars (Reply 19):
The best seats on the 764 are actually 7E & 7F

However, those are first class seats, and Gatorman96 said the best seats other than first.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:07 pm

Quote:
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Quote:
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Thanks for the input guys...
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:10 pm

I have to say this, that thanks to this board and the passion and intensity of DL employees on this site I am now ready to return to DL and give them a second chance. Times change people and we should as well. I look forward to my future flights on DL.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:29 pm

In time, it's rather certain that DL will convert all transoceanic capable aircraft into int'l configuations, including all of the 764s. Although they could keep a few for Hawaii service, it is more likely they will all get a Business Elite cabin. They are only converting now what they can use for currently int'l expansion. 8 763ERs are being converted now for this summer. 8 764s will be converted this winter for next summer and I bet another batch will be done next winter. DL still has 2 more years or significant int'l growth just w/ its current widebody fleet.
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:38 pm

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 25):
In time, it's rather certain that DL will convert all transoceanic capable aircraft into int'l configuations, including all of the 764s.

I actually don't think they will put all 764 into BizE config. Here is my reasoning (among new routes):

-There will be some routes that will not survive this expansion
-Of these new routes, not all will be year-round daily - so there are a lot less seats (let's just say 25) that will not be available for sale.
-BizE to Hawaii does not make sense IMHO for DL
-DL may 'liberate' more aircraft by all this expansion by sacrificing frequency - especially to Europe - this has already happened in JFK losing 1x 763 JFK-CDG. We may see CVG only served by AF or 1x 763 or 764 to CDG for sure as CVG will surely lose it's 777 flight with the JNB and TLV announcements.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:29 pm

I flew DL last Nov IND-ATL-PBI and thought the experience the best in quite a few years. Not a big Mad Dog fan ( for the IND-ATL-IND) but really enjoyed the B767-300 on the PBI turn. My first time on the 767, and loved the seating arrangement, plus the ability to choose your seats online. We have previously flown AA to DFW and TUS, and DL was the big winner in terms of service, comfort, and overall trip satisfaction. DL wins that one hands down, in my opinion.
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:10 pm

I to am an avid Delta fan. I just booked a flight home for a few days, and was forced to book with NW. I feel like I'm cheating on Delta.  ashamed 
I'm not paying for the trip, so I guess I shouldn't do much complaining.
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:27 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 14):

I'm a Delta fan. Had a wonderful flight in first class from Puerto Rico to MCO. I love the 767. It's too bad for all the guys I know that are furloughed. Those guy's made big bucks flying 2 or 3 legs per day.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:57 pm

Quoting B4real (Reply 26):
-BizE to Hawaii does not make sense IMHO for DL

Why not? CO has BizFirst on their HNL routes. DL's product is a tad suspect (even on the 764s) compared to CO's. BizElite, maybe in a smaller cabin like CO, would be a good idea.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 24):
I have to say this, that thanks to this board and the passion and intensity of DL employees on this site I am now ready to return to DL and give them a second chance. Times change people and we should as well. I look forward to my future flights on DL.

Hope all goes well. Judging by your post you aren't a Medallion member so be ready for possible weirdness. I think like all airlines the non-preferred flyers get the short straw sometimes but hopefully all will go well. I'm a Gold Medallion for many years so my views are a little biased but given the airline climate these days I still think they do a good job. Enjoy your flights.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:00 pm

Quoting Bucks918 (Thread starter):
I have a 767-300 on Monday from PBI to ATL. I dont know any other airline that has such large planes on short routes. Love it.

The main reason why I like them.

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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:13 pm

I love Delta because it's part of the Skyteam and NWA is in the Skyteam so YAY!
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:29 pm

Quoting DLCnxgptjax (Reply 28):
I feel like I'm cheating on Delta.

Seriously? Why? They are a unique airline that flies heavies where most US airlines won't, but that doesn't mean you owe them anything. At least, not in my book.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:38 pm

Quoting SATX (Reply 2):
WN is quite frankly the best run airline I've ever delt with, but from a aircraft fan's perspective they are just plain dull as nails. Having DL around helps keep things interesting

yeah this is why DELTA flys 767's from ATL to JAX with 100 pax on a plane that can seat near 250. Ridiculous. I love Delta with a passion, but flying 767's NEAR EMPTY from ATL to the SE is plain silly.
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:06 pm

All the kind words really go along way to the employees who work they're ass off for you, and are giving their all to "right the ship" again.

Thank guys!  Smile

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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:29 pm

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 14):
I think we are some of the only DL fans on here most days.

Can feel quite isolational being a Delta supporter, now can it  Wink ?

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 34):
yeah this is why DELTA flys 767's from ATL to JAX with 100 pax on a plane that can seat near 250.

I'd like to really see that, an ATL-JAX flight that is below 50% LF. Heck, I would already be surprised to see an ATL-JAX flight with a load factor below 90%, because I sure as hell have yet to experience a flight on that route that empty.

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 34):
I love Delta with a passion, but flying 767's NEAR EMPTY from ATL to the SE is plain silly.

Do you have any proof at all for your claim?

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 30):
CO has BizFirst on their HNL routes.

First, CO's resources much limited than DL, so a subfleet without BizF would not make sense, and second, the 764s not onyl fly Hawaii-mainland, but they are also being used to Guam, an internation flight, and occassionally beyond Guam, so BizF makes sense here.

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 25):
In time, it's rather certain that DL will convert all transoceanic capable aircraft into int'l configuations, including all of the 764s.

Not gonna happen. As B4real said, BizE to Hawaii doesn't make too much sense. Still, DL could convert 3 more 764ERs without a problem, because their Hawaiian routes only require 10 764s currently, which also operate a few domestic tag-on legs. Okay, perhaps one 'backup plane' would be needed, but still 2 764ERs could be converted. And not mention that as far as 'transoceanic capable aircraft' go, that also includes the 757s, which could fly to Europe if DL were willing to spend the money on ETOPS.

Quoting B4real (Reply 26):
We may see CVG only served by AF or 1x 763 or 764 to CDG for sure as CVG will surely lose it's 777 flight with the JNB and TLV announcements.

That can certainly be expected. Bad for CVG, but when you also look at it from a logistical pov, having all 777s operate from one airport makes more sense than having an isolated departure at another airport. Sure, the plane to CVG comes there from ATL via CDG, but when you consider ground equipment and some other things, it makes sense for CVG to lose the 777.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 24):
I have to say this, that thanks to this board and the passion and intensity of DL employees on this site I am now ready to return to DL and give them a second chance. Times change people and we should as well. I look forward to my future flights on DL.

Not only their employees  Wink .
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:41 pm

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 36):
First, CO's resources much limited than DL, so a subfleet without BizF would not make sense, and second, the 764s not onyl fly Hawaii-mainland, but they are also being used to Guam, an internation flight, and occassionally beyond Guam, so BizF makes sense here.

Some might argue that the 764s that CO use for HNl flights are a subset already since they have a smaller BF cabin than the transatlantic birds. I've done the NRT-GUM-HNL-IAH route and having BF was great for the duration.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:58 pm

Quoting NonRevKing (Reply 35):
All the kind words really go along way to the employees who work they're ass off for you, and are giving their all to "right the ship" again.

Thank guys!  

B

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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 12:00 am

Large planes on short routes are not at all uncommon outside the US.

PBI-ATL: 473nm

DXB-DOH: 207nm
DXB-BAH: 263nm
-DOH-BAH: 79nm

I have flown all three of these quite recently on large birds.

YOWza

[Edited 2006-02-10 16:02:24]
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:37 am

Quoting RamerinianAir (Reply 1):
I actually prefer the 764 to FLL

DL stopped flying the 764 to FLL  Sad
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:25 am

The first time I flew Delta was on a Convair 440 in the early 50's. It was my first travel on an airline. Orlando Herndon (pre-MCO) to Atlanta (can't remember the airport) as a 6 year old, was so full of adventure and "first time on an airplane" thrills so probably from that aspect alone, I have always had a soft spot for them. I can remember flying a 767 from MCO to MIA (now thats a short haul for sure) and still was served with a meal. While I can't say that all my trips on them have been good, I have to give them credit for a comfortable seat, friendly service, and being dependable to get me to where I wanted to go.
What I do give them credit for most of all is concern for their customers. I was flying from MCO to SLC and was held on the ground for over an hour due to weather from a hurricane passing up the Mississippi valley. So we missed our connecting flight to HLN, arriving after midnight in SLC. The gate and desk personnel all pitched in to find a full 673 group of passengers hotel and travel accomodations. They ended up giving me a full sized car as I had to be there in the morning first thing and couldn't spend the nite...they both got me the car and it was free of charge...and with a full money refund for the missed flight. That truely was service and just another continuation of why I also like flying DL .
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 4:22 am

Quoting SKYYBLUE (Reply 34):
yeah this is why DELTA flys 767's from ATL to JAX with 100 pax on a plane that can seat near 250. Ridiculous. I love Delta with a passion, but flying 767's NEAR EMPTY from ATL to the SE is plain silly.

AHEM!!! Sky, as a DL employee who started his career in JAX, I can say this with absolute certainty. YOU ARE WRONG!! Let me let you in on a little bit of Jacksonville's market. Jacksonville, while a seemingly small and insignificant city in Florida to the rest of the country(they aren't MCO or TPA or MIA), is also the largest city in the continental United States in terms of pure land mass, second only to Juneau, AK.

However, that does not mean JAX does not make money. While history buffs fly into JAX to visit St. Augustine, the nation's oldest city and a mere stone's throw from JAX, JAX itself is a big business town. Companies such as Winn-Dixie grocery stores, SteinMart, CSX Rail Transportation, Gate Petroleum, TNT Logistics, and Tiger Telematics are all based in Jacksonville. Jacksonville also has big business provided much local employment such as BellSouth, Modis, Gulf Petroleum, and Wachovia Bank as well as many others. So needless to say, a lot of business travelers flow into and out of JAX.

JAX has been served by Delta since the 1960's and DL is Jacksonville's largest airline. With the amount of travel Delta gets from business traveling, Jacksonville is in the top 3 cities of Delta's ENTIRE system network as far as Medallion Elite boardings. That basically means that of all Medallion Elite fliers in Delta's network, more board in Jacksonville than in almost any other city on any given day of the year. Delta needs to use larger planes to carry all of this business, but also uses large First Class cabin equipped aircraft to keep their premium customers happy, and thats another reason why the 767 see's service to JAX. I worked in Jacksonville for the better part of 3 years working for Delta, and flights are usually booked full. Granted, on a Saturday or Tuesday, the 2 lowest traveling days of the week, you may see a 767 come in with around 100 passengers, but there is nowhere else that airplane would be used at, given Delta's vast amount of 767's. Plenty of a.net users on here live in JAX. Ask any of them and they will tell you, DL 767's to JAX are well worthwhile. So worthwhile, that Delta's previous 2 competitors for largest airline in JAX(US Airways and Southwest) could not and still can't overcome Delta's amount of traffic in and out of Jacksonville.

Edit: I know JAX doesn't seem like a city you would fly a 767 to from ATL, but believe a person who was a Jacksonville native and has worked there, its justified. Not to mention the fact its one of only 12 cities the Super Bowl has been hosted in and pulled it off without a problem.


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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 9:44 am

Otto,
Have to say I agree with you on this one. JAX is a huge market for DL. Most folks don't have a clue as to what you pointed out. By the way, when did you change your logo "from Denmark?'

Ed
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:07 am

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 18):
I just flew DL Tues/Weds ewr-cvg-lga and once again was treated to typical DL service. Polite, quick and always with a smile.

THIS is what makes Delta great. My last few trips have all been on Delta, and I will continue to fly Delta for this exact reason. Even when they have been faced with bankrupcy, wage cuts, uncertainty, the crews have always managed to stay upbeat and make all my flights great.

I guess I have to agree that having the big planes on short rotues (Florida) isn't bad either, as it gives me a chance to get on a type I normally wouldn't be able to get on..

DL has earned my business.

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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:20 am

Delta was awesome when they had 727-2, 762s, L10,L15, and the M11s. Talk about awesome planes. I still fly them because I can get a 763 or 764. I won't fly transcon on anything lower than a 763. Never on a crap-bus or 73G or 800 or 900. Never, unless I had to. I'd stop 4 times if I had to do that. Well, I did stop 4 times each way this past summer. I do fly UA a bit more now since I can get 777s or even 744s sometimes.

I don't fly CO or NW anymore because of their types.

Hope DL will keep a few 763s domestic. They are losing a bunch though with the 762s leaving and many 764s going international.
 
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:46 am

Quoting DeltaGator (Reply 30):
Why not? CO has BizFirst on their HNL routes. DL's product is a tad suspect (even on the 764s) compared to CO's. BizElite, maybe in a smaller cabin like CO, would be a good idea.

CO offers superior service which is worth the more exclusive BizFirst cabin, so it's not worth the loss of seats in my opinion on DL. Meaning, BizE won't pull in its revenue value per seat.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 36):
That can certainly be expected. Bad for CVG, but when you also look at it from a logistical pov, having all 777s operate from one airport makes more sense than having an isolated departure at another airport. Sure, the plane to CVG comes there from ATL via CDG, but when you consider ground equipment and some other things, it makes sense for CVG to lose the 777.

I agree, but it's a heartbreak for me. CVG was my hub. I'm probably going to go back to DL, but I'm just unsure now as CVG had such a slash of mainline routes.

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 36):
And not mention that as far as 'transoceanic capable aircraft' go, that also includes the 757s, which could fly to Europe if DL were willing to spend the money on ETOPS.

Again, I agree with you (you've been on my RR list since you first joined BTW!) and that would open up some good secondary markets/routes: JFK-ARN/LIS/BOG/OSL/CPH/CCS/UIO and maybe replace SFO/LAX-HNL/OGG to liberate more 764. The only problem with this is all of this expansion really cuts back on domestic capacity, and thus feed (with the exception of O&D) - and with DL's large investment/infrastructure in the Delta Connection network, they have to rely on feed.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 3:20 am

Quoting 1011 (Reply 44):
still fly them because I can get a 763 or 764. I won't fly transcon on anything lower than a 763. Never on a crap-bus or 73G or 800 or 900.

Really? For domestic config, the 738 is my favorite DL a/c type.

Quoting 1011 (Reply 44):
Hope DL will keep a few 763s domestic. They are losing a bunch though with the 762s leaving and many 764s going international.

They will have a good # of 763D a/c. Only 8 764 are going to the BizE cabin configuration.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:18 am

Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 42):
Otto,
Have to say I agree with you on this one. JAX is a huge market for DL. Most folks don't have a clue as to what you pointed out.

Thanks. I also forgot to point out what a huge Navy town JAX is. NAS JAX, Mayport and the USS Kennedy, with King's Bay and the submarine fleet right up the street, even more business through town.

Quoting Clipper002 (Reply 42):
By the way, when did you change your logo "from Denmark?'

Who says I can't have a little Danish in me? I love the muffins! lol No, I believe it was in the non-av forum, someone mentioned that folks on here should protest the protests in the Middle East because Denmark did the caricatures of Islam. They said in an effort to show support of any Danes on the forum, change your flag to Denmark's. My U.S. flag will return, once the violence calms down over there(like that will ever happen). Until then, even though I support respect of religion, I also support and respect the right of freedom of speech and expression, especially when a religion has become as radical as Islam.

Quoting 1011 (Reply 44):
Hope DL will keep a few 763s domestic. They are losing a bunch though with the 762s leaving and many 764s going international.

I'm sure they will. Not all of them are ETOPs certified and Delta would need to keep some capacity at home. One other reason for pulling Song back into mainline, the next largest plane is the 757(121 of them) and with the 67's going across the pond, they are needed to fill the gap as best they can. But yes, I'm sure a few 67's will stay home.

Quoting B4real (Reply 45):
I agree, but it's a heartbreak for me. CVG was my hub. I'm probably going to go back to DL, but I'm just unsure now as CVG had such a slash of mainline routes.

It will be good to have you back on if you return. I know you were disappointed when the 732 was dropped from GRR and now that CVG is cut, even though I don't agree with it, they should still have plenty of feed from GRR-CVG, just fewer connections out of there to choose from.

Quoting Airlinelover (Reply 43):
THIS is what makes Delta great. My last few trips have all been on Delta, and I will continue to fly Delta for this exact reason. Even when they have been faced with bankrupcy, wage cuts, uncertainty, the crews have always managed to stay upbeat and make all my flights great

I think we all see it as this. Its out of our hands. Its not our job to decide how the money is best spent, that is up to the people with the MBA's(sometimes thats not good! LOL) There are many ways to take out your aggression or let off some steam, but the customer is not one of them. What are we gonna do, beat you for not flying more often, or for not buying a more expensive fare? Turning the company around is, for the most part, out of our hands. The only thing we can do and have a choice in is to provide the best customer service we can to the customer. Thats one good thing about being in the position we are in, we have nothing to lose(theoretically, speaking). If we provide horrible service and take out our anger on the customer, then we know thats just nailing our own coffin. If we provide the most outstanding service possible, the only thing that can happen is we return to profitability and it gets better from there. So whats the better choice? As far as the pilots, well, we all have our theories on that, but we just hope for the best and leave the rest in the hands of God(or Allah, or Buddha, Zeus or the Easter Bunny, whoever you choose).


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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:22 am

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 47):
It will be good to have you back on if you return. I know you were disappointed when the 732 was dropped from GRR and now that CVG is cut, even though I don't agree with it, they should still have plenty of feed from GRR-CVG, just fewer connections out of there to choose from.

Thanks for remembering! Really, I'm just waiting to see what happens with the pilot situation, then I should be back on the widget! I found it interesting that DL has more seats GRR-CVG now than DFW-CVG.

DL is where my heart is. I don't have the love and passion for AA as I do with DL.
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RE: Why I Love Delta.

Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:23 am

I grew up in Atlanta when "if your heart was in Dixie" you flew DELTA! Like countless others I've supported DL over the years.

I've also supported other airlines, and over the years have had good service, although I can recall some people with "attitude" problems---but hey, I guess anyone can have a bad day.

Now when I fly DL, or any other "legacy" carrier for that matter,I find it a rather "homogenous" experience. Just can't tell the difference anymore---ALTHOUGH----I always look forward to the IFE on UA---CH.9 in particular!

All that said, it is always the people that "make the company" and over the years I have really enjoyed ALL Airline people, no matter what the circumstance or their position.

Thank You DL folks, and all those other airline folks out there for everything! You are truly appreciated! praise 
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