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Qantas Only 747-100

Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:14 pm


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Not many know that Qantas leased a single 747-100 in the late 80s, VH-EEI, a former American Airlines aircraft. It seems to have been quite a troublesome bird which spend much time in maintenance. 1988/89 it was sub-leased to Air Pacific, 1990 rr. EI-CAI and shortly afterwards went to Virgin Atlantic where it spend another 10 busy years.

There are no photos existing of this aircraft wearing QF livery though about 1 year of its lease it was not operated by Air Pacific. That leads me to ask if it was ever painted in Qantas colours?
 
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:38 pm

In 1987/88 that aircraft was also G-HIHO of Highland Express, a short-lived airline that flew (IIRC) BHX-PIK-EWR for a short while.

G-HIHO was the first jumbo I ever flew on.


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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:44 am

I've always wondered why does Air Pacific operate 747s? Do they really have sufficient passenger loads to fill all those seats or do they just need the cargo capacity of a Jumbo?
 
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:18 am

Quoting NA (Thread starter):
Not many know that Qantas leased a single 747-100 in the late 80s

Say again! QF has operated three different B747-100s.
Here are the details:

B747-130 EI-BED 19748 44 30/11/1987 14/12/1988 Leased from Aer Lingus - ex. D-ABYC.
B747-123 VH-EEI 20108 87 08/02/1988 31/03/1988 Ops for Air Pacific 01/04/1988-14/11/1989 - ex. G-HIHO / N9669.
B747-123 VH-EEI 20108 87 15/11/1989 20/03/1990 ex. G-HIHO / N9669.
B747-131 N93117 20322 113 01/11/1987 01/03/1988

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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:52 am

QF never operated a 747-100 in their own livery. The Aer Lingus and Tower Air machines were wet-lease operations during a time of severe capacity shortage- a Martinair DC10 and 747-200 were also leased in (that 747 wore a hybrid livery). To the best of my knowledge, the ex AA 747 was only operated by Air Pacific, after the lease of 747-200 VH-EBK ended.
 
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:55 am

Thanks for the correction. I now remember seeing a picture of this TWA 747 in an odd hybrid TWA/Tower Air livery with QF titles. And that EI-BED was shortly leased, but without any QF titles as much as I know.

Do you know if VH-EEI was repainted after being returned from its sub-lease to Air Pacific or operated like seen in the picture above?
 
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:13 am

Quoting OHLBU (Reply 2):
I've always wondered why does Air Pacific operate 747s? Do they really have sufficient passenger loads to fill all those seats or do they just need the cargo capacity of a Jumbo?

Loads are good. Air Pacific does well with its two B744s on the Sydney and Los Angeles routes. Cargo is usually always full with the likes of seafood exports and that.
 
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:33 am

Quoting OHLBU (Reply 2):
I've always wondered why does Air Pacific operate 747s? Do they really have sufficient passenger loads to fill all those seats or do they just need the cargo capacity of a Jumbo?

Yes Air Pacific needs B744s in its fleet. Out of the routes the B744s fly (SYD, AKL and LAX) the loads are very good.
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:43 am

Quoting OHLBU (Reply 2):
I've always wondered why does Air Pacific operate 747s? Do they really have sufficient passenger loads to fill all those seats or do they just need the cargo capacity of a Jumbo?

They do a lot of consolidated contracts and offer good scheduled fares which are allowed by their high density configuration. Also, their location allows them to utilize the jumbos both to the US mainland and Down Under.
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RE: Qantas Only 747-100

Sat Feb 11, 2006 1:17 pm

Loads are so good that on it's SYD routes between NOV and FEB they offer supp services 3 to 4 x weekly with 738's as well.

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