LH492
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U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:50 am

Hey,

I´ll be flying from Europe to Hawaii via SFO next month and I wondered if I can check my bags all the way through to Hawaii or if I have to collect them at SFO and check in at the domestic terminal again.
I ask because friends of us had to collect their bags in SFO and had to check them in for the flight to Hawaii and they said it was a real pain in the butt.

And if it is possible for anyone to find out, could you tell me what the registration of my flight to SFO is going to be?
It departs at the third of march at 10:05AM (United Airlines) from LHR and arrives at 13:18PM. (It will be a 777)

Thanks in advance

[Edited 2006-02-12 17:15:36]
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legacy135
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:58 am

The procedure in the US is different to the one in Europe. They request to pass customs and immigration at the first port you pass in the country. This is in your case SFO. As you need to pass customs as well, you will be in need to show your bags in SFO.
However, you will probably be checked trough. This means, you won't need to carry them a long way. Normally there is a belt just after customs, where you can drop your labeled bags.
This system sometimes makes passengers pretty nervous, specially if they need to wait in long lines and the connection is short. On the other hand you can just pick up your bags in domestic and walk out, once you arrive in Hawaii.

Have a most wonderful vacation and a save trip,

Cheers
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N1120A
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:19 am

Actually Legacy135, I think you got it backwards. LH492 is going FROM Hawai'i back to Europe. In this case, no, you will not have to reclaim your bags. They will be checked straight through to your destination and you will only have to change planes in SFO
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iluv747400
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:25 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Actually Legacy135, I think you got it backwards. LH492 is going FROM Hawai'i back to Europe.



Quoting LH492 (Thread starter):
I´ll be flying from Europe to Hawaii via SFO next month

He says he's going from Europe to Hawaii. Legacy135's response was exactly correct. You are right that on the way back he will not need to claim bags in SFO, but that was not the original question.
 
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 1:30 am

Quoting N1120A (Reply 2):
Actually Legacy135, I think you got it backwards. LH492 is going FROM Hawai'i back to Europe. In this case, no, you will not have to reclaim your bags. They will be checked straight through to your destination and you will only have to change planes in SFO

Dude he is flying FROM Europe to Hawaii, Legacy135 explained it all very well.

Quoting LH492 (Thread starter):
I�ll be flying from Europe to Hawaii via SFO next month

Saludos desde Caracas,
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LH492
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 3:46 am

Thank you guys,

I am so excited about that trip, I never flew farther than SFO when traveling in to the U.S. and now that I know what is coming at SFO everything will be a piece of cake (hopefully Wink )

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londonlady71
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 4:07 am

shame I wont be at work that day to say hi, I am flying out on the 28th on that flight and wont be back till the 5th. One day I will get to say hi to one of you lot from here!
 
Poitin
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:12 am

Quoting Legacy135 (Reply 1):
The procedure in the US is different to the one in Europe. They request to pass customs and immigration at the first port you pass in the country. This is in your case SFO. As you need to pass customs as well, you will be in need to show your bags in SFO.

Normally, you get off the plane, go through immigration, go to the customs area, get your bags, go through customs and then recheck your bags about 100 feet away. Last I did it, in JFK, they even had free carts, which while standard in Europe, are normally charged for in the US. I don't know if that is the case now.

Typically, it all goes very fast and cleanly.

Do NOT bring any illegal drugs with you as there is a pack of drug-sniffing dogs at US customs. Others are trained to sniff out explosives and other contraband -- like money. You may bring up to $10,000 into the US as money, traveller checks and such without declaring it. If you have a bunch of money, one of the dogs will spot you and you will be asked about it.

They may even met you at the door of the plane, so don't be surprised. Generally, you will see one or two of these dogs wandering around the baggage claim area on a leash, and you may even be asked to let them put some dope in your bag so the dog can find it. Smile, and say "oh, sure." The dogs to not bite. They are very nice and it is all a game for them. It is not a game for their handlers.

Oh, also, remember to return the dope if the dog doesn't find it! Big grin

Also do not bring any fresh fruit or food with you to Hawaii as it will be taken away from you at the airport. The same is true of California. This is due to state agriculture bands.
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 5:18 am

Quoting Poitin (Reply 7):
Do NOT bring any illegal drugs with you as there is a pack of drug-sniffing dogs at US customs.

Not always, I arrived twice at JFK, one time at DTW, one time at EWR and one time at SFO on international flights and there was not a single dog in the whole arrival hall.

But as Poitin already wrote, don't bring any illegal drugs, when there is a dog, he will sniff it for sure. It happened to a friend and me in ATL in June 1999. We smoked some weed before we left at BRU and the dog could still smell it when we arrived at ATL 10 hours later. What followed were two nice hours in the office of the US customs and a missed flight to SFO.

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LH492
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 6:56 am

Quote:
But as Poitin already wrote, don't bring any illegal drugs, when there is a dog, he will sniff it for sure.



lol, thanks for the advice Sabena332 but I don´t take any drugs so that should not be a problem. But I appreciate your warning  Wink
You seem to have had a lot of interesting experiences regarding aviation and it seems a lot of bad ones with LH  Wink
I always wondered about what happened that you hate them so much, I don´t really like them either but you seem to loath them.
Would be interesting to hear.

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Poitin
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 7:39 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 8):
Not always, I arrived twice at JFK, one time at DTW, one time at EWR and one time at SFO on international flights and there was not a single dog in the whole arrival hall.

WRONG! They are always behind the scene and they go over EVERY bag on the conveyor belt. If the dog hits on a bag, they will suddenly show up in the arrival hall and let the dog hit on the bag again when it gets picked up. However, there are aways dogs sniffing every bag even if you don't see them. You might get away with something in a carry-on bag, but not checked luggage. The reason carry-on is pretty carefully checked as you board, but the checked luggage is only x-rayed, (except SIN where they sniff all the bags for chemicals as well) so US customs checks them here.

And as Sabena 332 said, wear clean clothes if you do something at home, and what ever you do, don't pack those clothes in your bag. Be clean.
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:08 am

Poitin:

Actually, not all bags are sniffed by dogs. There was an article in the LA Times about this awhile back. It is simply too cost prohibitive. It costs about US$20,000 to train a dog to perform this duty, and most cannot be trained for multiple scents (drugs, explsives, money, fruit, etc). Additionally, the dogs can only work for about an hour, then have to rest for about 4 hours so that they can recover their smell capabilities. The dogs are usually used at targeted times of day (when certain flights from certain countries arrive). When I returned from Guatemala, they simply put the dog on the baggage claim belt and it walked on the belt like a treadmill sniffing the bags as they came out. Pretty fun to watch.

The US Department of Agriculture keeps its own dogs at US ports of entry to sniff out fruit and other food not allowed into the US. They are always pure bread Beagles. To test the dogs officers will sometimes approach an arriving passenger and ask to place a scented cloth in their luggage or pockets to let the dog smell it out. This happened to me once and unfortuntely, the dog failed to find the cloth Sad
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Poitin
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:37 am

Quoting Planenutz (Reply 11):
Actually, not all bags are sniffed by dogs. There was an article in the LA Times about this awhile back. It is simply too cost prohibitive. It costs about US$20,000 to train a dog to perform this duty, and most cannot be trained for multiple scents (drugs, explsives, money, fruit, etc)

Right, sure, I believe that. NOT.

If you believe the LA times, just go and get a stash and put it in your bags and come home and see what happens. The customs people are not worried about fruit, but they are sniffing for a variety of drug, money and explosives.

As for $20,000 per dog, which I think is low, what do you think a million dollars does for you? What does $100 million? Please get real. We probably spend $20,000 per second on the war on terror.

$20,000 is pocket change. EVERY BAG ENTERING THE US IS SNIFFED BY MORE THAN ONE DOG. USUALLY THREE. Those from South America, but as many as six or more, depending on risk.

As I said, go to Colombia, buy a stash, pack it in your bags and see how many years you get.

[Edited 2006-02-13 01:44:54]
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RE: U.S. Emigration And Registration Question

Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:51 am

Whoa. Settle down sparky.

If I rememebr correctly, the articel said that the average career for one of these dogs is about a year. I think most airports now use chemical tracer tecnhnology to find contraband.

In Canada, dogs are only used at passport control for hand baggage, and again, only for targeted flights and/or times of day.
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