FLY777UAL
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Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:16 am

I know they received FAA approval in 2002, but are the Kevlar ULD's in service with any airlines throughout the globe, or are they still the typical metal ULD's?

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:26 am

I think El Al uses them, from what I've heard.

THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:30 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

It would make a world of difference...the ex-AF 741 test pictures while under pressurization as well as this link: http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib...ary/Hardened_Baggage_Container.pdf show how well the blasts can be contained.

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:32 am

Does anyone know what sort of weight penalty there is on a Kevlar lined ULD? I understand that, along with the cost, has been a major factor in this technology not being picked up...

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:44 am

I rea

Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 3):
Does anyone know what sort of weight penalty there is on a Kevlar lined ULD? I understand that, along with the cost, has been a major factor in this technology not being picked up...

I read that they were actually lighter...340lbs for the Telair and 390lbs for the Galaxy-manufactured one.

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:44 am

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

While I fully agree with the TSA part of your statement, I don't think one can say that only one major airliner has been downed by a luggage bomb. There have, in fact been several over the years, many involving major airliners...

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:01 pm

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 4):
I read that they were actually lighter

Oh right, I must have been mistaken then - please ignore my post.

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:05 pm

Quoting FLY777UAL (Reply 4):
I read that they were actually lighter...340lbs for the Telair and 390lbs for the Galaxy-manufactured one.

I heard the same thing. The word was the tare weight of the AKE's were about 20 lbs lighter.

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 5):
There have, in fact been several over the years, many involving major airliners...

That was an interesting link. I really had no idea...

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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:21 pm

Quoting Gigneil (Reply 1):
THIS is the technology the TSA should invest in on behalf of the airlines rather than the ridiculous searches of everyone's luggage. Only one major airliner has ever been downed by a luggage bomb.

Not every airliner can carry ULDs, or can and also have bins. To me, it sounds like it would be better as a second line of protection.
 
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RE: Bomb-Proof ULD's

Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:34 pm

While there were several cases of luggage bombs in the, including a TWA flight within Europe, ULD's really developed after PA103. Of course, the better situation is to better check out pax and their luggage before they get on the a/c rather than rely on a bomb resistant luggage container or the fact that many a/c don't use luggage containers anyway.