DL4EVR
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DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:37 am

Other than the fact that the miles never expired, was DL's original Frequent Flyer program any different than SkyMiles? Did elite status have different names (Silver Medallion, Gold, etc)? Was the amount of miles needed to redeem an award different?
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BNinMSY
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:55 am

Well one major difference is that you could actually obtain a free award ticket uner the Delta Frequent Flyer program .. under Skymiles that is near to impossible, even with all the so called 'partners'.
 
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:06 pm

I'm off to Amsterdam tomorrow, Business Class 90K skymiles that I'm burning off, with AirFrance. I booked the flights 3 weeks ago. I got out on the day I wanted, return a day later than expected (tragic!). Somehow, in my pile of soon to be worthless frequent flyer miles, I've got 500 of the old miles left. I haven't a clue as to what the difference is.

There are mileage awards out there to be had, just not as many as the airlines would have you believe.
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting DL4EVR (Thread starter):
was DL's original Frequent Flyer program any different than SkyMiles? Did elite status have different names (Silver Medallion, Gold, etc)?

I believe Delta's original frequent flier program was called, "Delta Frequent Flier Program" and did not have the different levels it has today. It was introduced when everyone else did it to keep competitive and reward your loyal frequent fliers. Nowadays, its pointless, because everyone has an account on everyone. There is no "frequent flier" for the most part for one airline. Back when I started with Delta, I asked a lady if she wanted to add Delta Skymiles and answered yes, but pulled out a card with FF numbers for every airline you could think of. DL, AA, CO, NW, UA, US, AS, and HA. I pulled up her account, it was 9 years old with about 4,000 miles accrued. Yea, thats a frequent flier alright.

As far as elite programs, I don't think there was one initially. If you were a preferred customer and male, you got the title "Flying Colonel" and if you were female, "Flying Orchid." Later, DL started Skymiles and instituted the 3 tiers of FF elites. Platinum Medallion(PM), Gold Medallion(GM), and Silver Medallio(FO). Don't ask me how the Flying Orchid initials got attached to the Silver Medallion level, I have no idea.



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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:27 pm

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 3):
"Delta Frequent Flier Program" and did not have the different levels it has today. It

Almost correct.  Wink

It was simply Delta Frequent Flyer, as it appears on my original card I still use. The only other nominal benefit than miles was a special reservations phone number to call, that still worked the last time I tried it.

The mileage levels for reward redemptions were somewhat lower, like 20,000 miles for a free domestic ticket, and miles never expired. I recently received an e-mail that 624 "original miles" will become SkyMiles this year, and they'll finally be eligible for expiration just like any others earned in the period after the 1988 triple miles promotion that changed all the programs.

I have most of the original documents for all the programs in a box waiting for me to scan them in before tossing them out, so if there's anything specific you'd like, let me know and I'll see if I have it.
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:32 pm

Quoting BNinMSY (Reply 1):
Well one major difference is that you could actually obtain a free award ticket uner the Delta Frequent Flyer program .. under Skymiles that is near to impossible, even with all the so called 'partners'.

Is it really this difficult for people to get an award ticket? I grab them all the time without any type of problem. Hell, I was even upgraded on one THE DAY BEFORE CHRISTMAS. Now, if I can grap a reward ticket on Christmas Eve, how can people have these many problems in the middle of the year?
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:36 pm

Quoting DL4EVR (Thread starter):
Other than the fact that the miles never expired, was DL's original Frequent Flyer program any different than SkyMiles? Did elite status have different names (Silver Medallion, Gold, etc)? Was the amount of miles needed to redeem an award different?

When my dad use to fly to CVG every other week in the early 1990s for the DL people mover project he eventually aquired over 500k miles. This was a huge benefit because since they didn't expire we were able to save them for use on several florida flights plus CO for EWR-SJU-EWR in 2004. I liked the idea of non-expiring miles. After all, they're your miles and it should be up to you to spend them when you want.
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:44 pm

Quoting BNinMSY (Reply 1):
Well one major difference is that you could actually obtain a free award ticket uner the Delta Frequent Flyer program .. under Skymiles that is near to impossible, even with all the so called 'partners'.

Recently, I got sky saver award tickets from LGA to SXM within 5 weeks of departure, LGA to PBI within 2 weeks of departure and JFK to CDG business class within 3 months of departure, hardly a problem or impossible
 
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:51 pm

YES! It's really that difficult to book an award ticket using skymiles, even with all their partners. I've hit it lucky and gotten what I wanted, but MOST of the time, it's really difficult!!
 
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:00 pm

How did you reach Flying Orchid or Flying Colonel level? 25,000 MQMs (well obviously they weren't called MEDALLION miles back then), just like Silver Medallion?
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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:23 pm

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 9):

From what I remember reading of FlyerTalk, in the days after Flying Colonel but before Silver/Gold/Plat, there was one level, Delta's Royal Medallion level, achieved after earning 25,000 miles. Keep in mind, each flight had a base 1,000 mile minimum, so you would need a maximum of 25 flights to make the status. I believe it was in the early 1990s that it was broken up into the current 3 levels.

As for Flying Colonel, I believe this ended around 1982 or so. Basically, it was an invite-only program (I guess like United Global Services currently?) and one of the biggest perks was lifetime Crown Room membership. Of course, this is gone and there are some posters on FlyerTalk that still complain about this. A Flying Orchid was something given to secretaries/travel planners as an incentive to have them book Delta. The FO that appears on current manifests for Silvers comes from Flies Often, which was established under the original Royal Medallion level. Other designations from what I've heard on manifests are GM (Gold), PM (Plat), MM (Million Miler) and I've heard reports of FC even being on there (Flying Colonel).

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RE: DL's Original FF Program

Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:02 pm

Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 10):
As for Flying Colonel, I believe this ended around 1982 or so. Basically, it was an invite-only program (I guess like United Global Services currently?) and one of the biggest perks was lifetime Crown Room membership.

Wow...almost sounds like the current Million Miler benefit...but not as good, lol. I am not a member of the Crown Room Club, but I do have an Amex Platinum. Is that all I need to show (along with my same day ticket) in order to enter?
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