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The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:37 pm

I searched but was unable to find anything on this topic ...

I have noticed in every ground-side image I've ever seen of this delightful airliner that never has she been hooked up to the terminal by air bridge, always only by ground stairs.

Why is this? Is it the case that for some reason modern air bridge are incompatible with the aircraft?

(I can't think what possible reason there is; hopefully someone can/will educate me ...  confused  )
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brink777
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:55 pm

not true back in 86 i flew AMS-SOF on balkan airlines we boarded the plane at AMS thruogh a jetway or airbridge i call it jetway
 
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:58 pm

also the TU134 from FBU-SOF back in 93 i boarded it through a jet bridge also at FBU it was on hemus air

[Edited 2006-02-16 07:05:00]

but its true you dont see those aircraft parked at an air bridge that often

[Edited 2006-02-16 07:07:22]
 
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:11 pm

SVO boards TU-154s/134s through jetways...

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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:20 pm

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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:31 pm

In Scotland, it appears that all use Air Stairs. At Edinburgh, i have never seen one at a Jetway nor at Glasgow:


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That picture shows every single aircraft that has access to a Jetway is using one, except the CO B752 which is about to depart.

At LHR, i don;t think they use Jetways either. From all of the photos i've looked at.

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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:25 pm

I guess it depends on which airports the pictures were made at, and on the circumstances of the flight:

-> First and foremost, if you see pictures made at their respective home turf, you need to take into account that many CIS airports simply do not have jetties and still use the traditional combination of stairs & busses to get passengers to & from the plane.

-> Secondly, charter flights from the CIS to destinations in Turkey, Spain, the UAE or alpine airports in Europe do sometimes include long lay-overs of the aircraft at the destination - occasionally for the entire period its passengers take their break, e.g. the Ural Tu-154 that graced Salzburg airport for a good part of January 2006. Naturally, such a long stay results in the aircraft getting a remote stand and stairs instead of a jetty.

-> Finally, there are not too many CIS planes flying to the West anymore on a frequent basis. If you see Tu-154s - or other CIS airliners - still visiting Western European airports these days, chances are fat that they do either perform a government flight, or a private VIP / sports team charter, and therefore they will be handled in stands secluded from the regular gates (and jetties) of the passenger terminal.

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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:37 pm

Flown on Malev Tu154s out LHR to BUD plenty of times in the early/mid-90s using an airbridge at LHR Terminal 2.
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:14 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 5):
In Scotland, it appears that all use Air Stairs. At Edinburgh, i have never seen one at a Jetway nor at Glasgow:

They use the airbridges at EDI.
 
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:15 pm

Thanks, everyone - I appreciate the responses (and education thereby)!

AJO - I looked at all the images I could pull up via the Photo Search engine, last night, and for whatever reason it simply never gave me those. I have no guesses why ... but thanks for posting those up!

Dogfighter - the very image you posted (of the -154 with airstairs at Glasgow) is the one that provoked my curiosity enough to ask.

YukonTrader - aha. That would explain considerable. I realize the first point, that a lot of the -154's normal stops within the CIS may indeed be at fields with few if any airbridges; it just occurs to me that many of the images we get of him is at some western airport like Schiphol or whatever ... and until this morning I had never caught an image of one mated up. The charter aspect makes all sorts of sense; I suppose most -154s nowadays are operated not on regular schedule but charter?

'Tis a shame it's not any kind of regular visitor here in the West and especially in the States. I would dearly love to see this beautiful aircraft for myself in person. Perhaps if we can ever make up with Cuba, one day, FLL might get some of the Russian-made visitors. (Not that I expect that anytime soon ... but it'd be nice.)

A related question: For what reason/s have airliners like the Tupolevs and Illyushins never made it into any mainstream Western airlines' fleets? They certainly seem like decent-enough aircraft both performance-wise and aesthetically, and I should imagine the purchase cost could be quite attractive. Are the economics of these aircraft then so very bad they just can't compete? I would think the current situation of only AvB simply screams for someone else to challenge and provide a product - and here's not one but two aircraft manufacturers who might ... but just can't seen to get a foot in the door. I'd love to see a discussion on this.
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:04 am

Your question has been debated many many times here on the forums and is available via search. Basically it comes down to a combination:

1. No spares and maintenance available readily
2. Passenger and airline unfamiliarity
3. Poor economics
4. Poor marketing
5. Inability to serially produce aircraft in large numbers
6. Simple prejudice
 
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:52 am

Afay1, that another question........
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RE: The TU-154 And Air Bridges

Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:12 am

Quoting ScottishLaddie (Reply 8):
They use the airbridges at EDI.

Thanks, yes. I remembered during the day that i had seen in once before.

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Mike