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ramprat74
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Old Airport In Kansas City

Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:01 pm

This looks like a old airport in Kansas City, KS. Does anybody know the history of it? It's right across the river from KCI. Whatever is on that land now. It is one huge building.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...4.594946&spn=0.015143,0.042572&t=k
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:45 pm

Looks like it is the old Fairfax Airport. It is a GM plant now. Click the link below for the history of the airfield...

http://www.members.tripod.com/airfie...eman/KS/Airfields_KS_E.htm#fairfax
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:07 pm

Hurrah for Paul Freeman and his Abandoned & Little-Known Airfields webpage  bigthumbsup 

Fairfax Airport / Fairfax Army Airfield (KCK), North Kansas City, KS

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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:24 pm

http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMKC

It's not abandoned...it's a vibrant airport used by private and commercial carriers.

It was our primary airport for TWA until KCI was opened.
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:50 pm

Quoting Jumpseat70 (Reply 3):
It's not abandoned...it's a vibrant airport used by private and commercial carriers.

Not that one - that's to the lower right of Fairfax.

The map is centered on the old Fairfax airport.


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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:24 am

Great museum at the old KC Muncipal airport. Called the Aircraft History Museum. A number of retired TWA folks work there. This is where the Connie from "Aviator" is based.

Worth the time if you are ever in KC.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:41 am

JHSFan--you beat me to it! That's a terrific site. I learned from it that my hometown, Rochester, NY, had even more little airports than the old Hylan Field, which is now Marketplace Mall.

And regarding MKC, be sure to check out Jsnww81's excellent webpage on that airport:

http://oldterminals.topcities.com/kansas%20city.html

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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:14 am

Thanks guys. I knew someone on here would know.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:22 am

Interesting, I just thought of Fairfax yesterday when the "closest airports in one city" thread came up. Fairfax and KC Municipal are 1000 yards apart, and would have qualified for closest at that time!

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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:37 am

Quoting Rampart (Reply 8):

And I have a TWA sched that shows a flight from MKC to Fairfax using a connie in the early 50's.
ALSO when MKC had runway repaving in the summer of 60, flights were using Fairfax for a couple of days. My buddy has a b&w photo of a Continental 707 at Fairfax along with a other gems in those days, BN convairs, TWA connies, DL convairs along with Central and Oz Dc 3's. This was only for two days.
Then everything reverted back to MKC after the runway work was complete.

How bout that!
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:02 pm

My grandpa was working for TWA at Fairfax when the great flood of
1951 hit. That lead to the land purchase and eventual construction
of the Overhaul Base. Planes would ferry to and from MKC until
1972 when the new airport opened for business.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:14 pm

New user here... I'm from KC and I just thought I would post an interesting FYI... the only scheduled service that runs out of MKC now is the Air Marshal flights - Conair - if you will. Although I think the amount of traffic from the Air Marshals may be dwindling. (or may not be) They run out of the old main terminal builing, at least whats left of it.

Anyway, good thread!
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:22 pm

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Do they still use MKC for boat and gun shows? When I lived
there 20 years ago, the boat show was there every winter.
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:36 pm

I didnt realize boat and gun shows were held there. There is so much that has happend and changed there at MKC I guess there is still alot I dont know about...

Actually the boat and gun shows - which do happen at least annually - are held downtown in Bartle Hall. Most if not all conventions in KC are held there now.
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:10 pm

My 1st flight ever was out of there in 1968 on a Braniff Bac-111 to ORD(in the Ochre color scheme) with flight attendants in space-foil aprons and Pucci, hot pink ,hot pants with space bubble helmets!!!
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:24 pm

A friend of mine flies for a courier service that is based at MKC. He's in and out of there five days a week..
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:09 pm

Quoting IAHcsr (Reply 15):
A friend of mine flies for a courier service that is based at MKC. He's in and out of there five days a week..

When I mentioned no scheduled service I was referring to passengers. Does your friend fly an Aero Commander?

I know over the last 20 years or so that at least a half dozen potential commuter startups have attempted to serve MKC but because of its proximity to MCI its not worth it.
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:09 am

Quoting L1329II (Reply 13):
I didnt realize boat and gun shows were held there. There is so much that has happend and changed there at MKC I guess there is still alot I dont know about...

Actually the boat and gun shows - which do happen at least annually - are held downtown in Bartle Hall. Most if not all conventions in KC are held there now.

I moved away in 1986. I think the boat show and the home and garden
show were being held at Bartle Hall before I left. The last gun and
military memorbilia show I went to at the old airport was probably in
1983.

I had a friend whose uncle was a controller at MKC.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:49 am

When I was an early teen, my family lived in North Kansas City. I remember watching Braniff 707s and 720s landing there - all those colorful planes. I remember TWA's 707s and 880s landing as well. And Ozark DC-9s.

The jets were so loud, you couldn't hear someone talking next to you until the craft had passed overhead.

My dad and I used to park down by a dyke near the river and watch the jets roll in. It was rumored that the terminal was actually longer than the runway!
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:23 am

Quoting L1329II (Reply 16):
know over the last 20 years or so that at least a half dozen potential commuter startups have attempted to serve MKC but because of its proximity to MCI its not worth it.

You're right about that. I remember that American Eagle had a few commuter flights out of there at one time, but that didn't last long.

I grew up in the flight path of what we called the "Downtown" airport. I remember when President Jimmy Carter flew right over my house. It was pretty exciting. That was always a dangerous airport for the bigger jets. Skyscrapers on one side and the Water works park hill on the other.
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:26 pm

Quoting L1329II (Reply 16):
Does your friend fly an Aero Commander?

It's a small company called 'Swiftwing' and I think they fly 7-10 aircraft. Two types.. One's a Aztec and .. I forget the other ...  ashamed   banghead 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:08 am

I remember my dad taking us to the west side of downtown on the bluff overlooking MKC when it was in full commercial operation. I can't think of a much better place from which to spot, particularly for an 8-year-old. I got to fly out of MKC once, on Braniff to DAL to change planes/airlines to fly on to ABI. It was an incredible first flight for me.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:16 am

Quoting TAN FLYR (Reply 5):
Great museum at the old KC Muncipal airport. Called the Aircraft History Museum. A number of retired TWA folks work there. This is where the Connie from "Aviator" is based.

Worth the time if you are ever in KC.

It's actually called Airline History Museum and is simply superb if you are into propliners (I am). They have a Super Connie that flies regularly, a grounded Martin 404 and a DC3 being gradually restored to airworthy condition. Plus a huge collection of memorabilia and a very good shop. Entrance is cheap and they're always very welcoming.
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:21 am

Quoting Phuebner (Reply 19):
I grew up in the flight path of what we called the "Downtown" airport. I remember when President Jimmy Carter flew right over my house. It was pretty exciting. That was always a dangerous airport for the bigger jets. Skyscrapers on one side and the Water works park hill on the other.

I worked the flight line at a FBO in MKC in the early 90's when Bush Sr flew in on Air Force 1 (747) and about 6 months or so later Dan Quayle flew in on AF 2 (707). Its funny that both pilot crews mentioned that would be the last time they flew into this airport and they were right. Now they go into MCI. When AF 1 landed the tires touched down right at the end of the threshold on one end of the runway and the front nose wheel stopped right at the end of the threshold on the other end. It came to a complete stop and Ive never seen a 747 do an about face!  crazy 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:11 am

I wish I could have seen MKC when it was in full commercial operation. I visited the field in 2003 and can't imagine full-sized 707s operating from the airport.

The approach from the south must have been pretty exciting, passing low over the west side of downtown and then the river before touching down. The terminal was pretty primitive by today's standards - no baggage carousels or jetways. In high school, I had a friend whose dad worked part-time in the coffee shop at the old airport. He said the place used to get really crowded in the evenings. Wish I could have seen it.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:16 am

Quoting Phuebner (Reply 19):
You're right about that. I remember that American Eagle had a few commuter flights out of there at one time, but that didn't last long.

I don't remember Eagle doing it (or ever flying to Kansas City at all),
but Air Midwest flew out of MKC at one time.
 
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RE: Old Airport In Kansas City

Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:28 pm

Quoting CWAFlyer (Reply 25):
I don't remember Eagle doing it (or ever flying to Kansas City at all),
but Air Midwest flew out of MKC at one time.

You're right! I have American on the brain. It was Air Midwest.
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