mainMAN
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Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:11 pm

Air Canada are to return to Manchester this summer with their usual seasonal
YYZ-MAN-YYZ service.

YYZ - MAN

Days 1234567 AC840 2215/1005 16Jun to 24Sep
Days -2-4567 AC840 2215/1005 26Sep to 7Oct

MAN - YYZ

Days 1234567 AC841 1135/1420 17Jun to 25Sep
Days 1-3-567 AC841 1135/1420 27Sep to 8Oct

All operated by 767-200

As has been commented on before, AC do not appear to be returning to GLA this summer. I always thought that the Scotland - Canada market was slightly more buoyant than the North of England - Canada one, but obviously not.

It's good to see AC back at MAN this year; it's a shame though that they don't return to operating a year round service, even if it is DUS-MAN-YYZ on three days a week, for example.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:26 pm

Excellent. It must do quite well, as I seem to recall it was often upgraded to a 763 last year.
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:39 pm

Quoting MainMAN (Thread starter):
I always thought that the Scotland - Canada market was slightly more buoyant than the North of England - Canada one, but obviously not.

Yep - so did I. But with Zoom offering a far more comprehensive service anf FlyGlobespan due to come on stream, soon, the overall service will improve substantially. AC only served YYZ and bowed out of YVR and YYC services from GLA a long time ago. So its thanks and farewell.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:11 pm

Etihad Daily to Man from March 26th?
http://www.ameinfo.com/78019.html
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:16 pm

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 1):
Excellent. It must do quite well, as I seem to recall it was often upgraded to a 763 last year.

It must make money for them in the peak season. Eastern Canada is a very seasonal destination for Brits, so I wonder how well AC and BA do from LHR in the winter (bearing in mind that their services must be full of Midlanders, Northerners and Scots connecting on bmi!)

The AC timetable says it's operated by a 762, probably only as a rough guide.

Quoting Scotty (Reply 2):
But with Zoom offering a far more comprehensive service anf FlyGlobespan due to come on stream, soon, the overall service will improve substantially. AC only served YYZ and bowed out of YVR and YYC services from GLA a long time ago. So its thanks and farewell.

Shame for GLA. I remember when NW and AC were the feathers in its cap.

Are FlyGlobespan due to operated their own flights to YYZ or is this a Globespan/Air Transat service?
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:21 pm

Quoting Groobster (Reply 3):
Etihad Daily to Man from March 26th?
http://www.ameinfo.com/78019.html

Well, this time they show in the amadeus system so can actually booked! Though they aren't on the EY website yet.
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:29 am

Quoting MainMAN (Thread starter):
Air Canada are to return to Manchester this summer with their usual seasonal
YYZ-MAN-YYZ service.

Good news, could be an easy way for me to non-rev to Canada this summer. Would a reduced schedule during the winter not work with the demand for winter sports in canada?

Glad to see the EY saga has finally been sorted out. Looks like it's going to be a busy summer at MAN. Is the Belavia service going to be returning this summer?

Matt
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:41 am

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 4):
Are FlyGlobespan due to operated their own flights to YYZ or is this a Globespan/Air Transat service?

This summer the flights are with Air Transat. However in the future GSM may well take the flights 'in house' and operate them themselves
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:11 am

Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:05 pm

Quoting MANmatt (Reply 6):
Good news, could be an easy way for me to non-rev to Canada this summer. Would a reduced schedule during the winter not work with the demand for winter sports in canada?

Glad to see the EY saga has finally been sorted out. Looks like it's going to be a busy summer at MAN. Is the Belavia service going to be returning this summer?

Winter sports are pretty well catered for with flights to the west (Calgary and Vancouver). Also YVR also possibly attracts VFR traffic year round due to its more temperate climate.

There's nothing on the Belavia website to suggest they're operating to MAN this year, because they haven't got any further than winter 05/06 schedules. I'd be surprised if they did come back.

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 9):
Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

Thats NEWS Gayrugbyman, not rumours.

Feel free to post some!
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:18 pm

What's with the sudden interest in opening up french regional routes from MAN? First Air Wales to Rennes 4 times a week, now Aer Arann 3 times a week to a place i've never heard of before, Angers! I'd have thought we would have seen BE open up the french regional market, now 6G or RE!

Matt
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:21 pm

MANmatt,

Where else do you stick an ATR and make money? This is more to do with running out of markets than a strategy.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:25 pm

Quoting Billy (Reply 12):
This is more to do with running out of markets than a strategy

Seems a bit like a bmi strategy to me! Just opening up routes here, there and everywhere without any kind of network. Still, i wish them the best of luck.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:40 pm

You are right. RE bumps into FR, EI or BE. It is looking for international markets that are small enough to deter competition, that would use an ATR, but large enough to support an ATR. Also, there is no low-cost jet competition (I think).

So if you have any ideas that fit the bill, I am sure RE would like to hear from you.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:52 pm

Quoting Billy (Reply 14):
So if you have any ideas that fit the bill, I am sure RE would like to hear from you

Well I don't think I could recommend a route, but im sure Pe@rson knows some routes that would suite the ATR!! Big grin
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:01 pm

6G and RE seem to be getting in on the regional French market before BE invariably will, from MAN. I don't know how much demand there is for services to Rennes and Angers, but the bulk of 2nd home-owners have their properties in Brittany and the Loire Valley.....very vaguely the northwestern chunk of France (because it's cheaper than warmer places au sud)

France is served well from STN, BHX and SOU, so good look to them.




Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

Oh, the irony!  Smile
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:36 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 9):
Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 8):
Can we please stick to news about Manchester, thanks!

Thats NEWS Gayrugbyman, not rumours

LOL! Well doen 7LBAC111. GayrubgyMAN does have 'reliable' sources, just can never back them up.

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:16 am

And why should I? I would never put anyone;s professional position in jeopady by naming a source in person, so there!

I think alot of it is kealousy..you boys all fancy me really.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:30 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 18):
I think alot of it is kealousy..you boys all fancy me really

I'm not familiar with the term kealousy. Is it like a funky type of jealousy?
Either way, rather than bragging about how fanciable you are, reveal your sources.

Few of us accept the following (hypothetical) type 'sources':-

Quote:
... the bloke speaking to Brian from Aviance was telling me about Varig's new service from MAN when I met him in the corridor behind checkin t'other day!"

Nor do we care about new catering opportunities in Terminal 3.

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:33 am

Keeping it real, the Air China Cargo 74F looks certain for a May start.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:26 am

Sounds good - the Air China Cargo 74F is more or less official confirmed here in Copenhagen...
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:06 am

MAN-Rennes is no longer bookable on the air wales website
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:08 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 22):
MAN-Rennes is no longer bookable on the air wales website

The curse of Planetalk strikes again!
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:06 pm

Monarch Schedule announce new Manchester to Arrecife service for winter 06/07.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:16 pm

Hi all!

Effective 5 June to 4 Sep BELAVIA
will operate very Monday with a 735

B2 853 MSQ MAN 0930/1055
B2 854 MAN MSQ 1155/1700

Cheers!
Tony
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:02 pm

FLYBE Announce Manchester/Norwich

New service announced today. Effective 25th May with double daily flights operated by Norwich based Dash-8-400.

Scottiedog
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:22 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 24):
Monarch Schedule announce new Manchester to Arrecife service for winter 06/07.

Glad to see MAN getting ACE with ZB

Commences 29 Oct 2006

ZB626/627 Departs 1430 Arrives 2355 Thurs + Sun

Quoting ScottieDog (Reply 26):
FLYBE Announce Manchester/Norwich

Yet another kick in the teeth for Eastern, lost out on Stansted to Air Berlin, now no doubt losing this to FlyBe.

BE441/442 Arrive 0805 Depart 0835 Mon-Sat
BE445/446 Arrive 1855 Depart 1925 Mon-Fri + Sun

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:35 am

Have T3 actually dropped MAN-STN though?
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:36 am

flyGlobespan announce MAN-CPT starting this Winter. 3x weekly !!

Totally random !!

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:39 am

Travel Shitheap Direct's MAN-SFB service that was *ahem* so reliable last year is changing from 2x on Thu-Fri-Sat-Sun to 1x daily on five days, not quite sure whether Thu-Fri-Sat-Sun-Mon or Wed-Thur-Fri-Sat-Sun. Departing 1315.

I think Air Atlanta and Excel have decided they've more chance of getting the thing out on time if there's only one to worry about.
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:41 am

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 29):
flyGlobespan announce MAN-CPT starting this Winter. 3x weekly !!

Can't see anything on their website Gaz. Have you a source for this one?

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 28):
Have T3 actually dropped MAN-STN though?

I think they have. It's no longer listed in the GDS.

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:42 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 31):
flyGlobespan announce MAN-CPT starting this Winter. 3x weekly !!

Can't see anything on their website Gaz. Have you a source for this one?

www.flyglobespan.com

Gaz
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:47 am

GLAGAZ is right - you can book flights between MAN-CPT on their website!
I'm suprised - didn't see it coming!
Thought the flights seem very expensive!
The cheapest fare I could find was £592.90, however most fares were hitting £700-800 mark return in low frills economy, where you are only provided with:

Quote:
30" seat pitch
20kg luggage allowance
Our LOW FRILLS class provides 1 complimentary meal per sector. There will also be a selection of tasty snacks & drinks available for you to purchase on board throughout the flight

I found a fare with Air France on the same dates for £494.60!

[Edited 2006-02-22 17:58:50]
 
7LBAC111
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:48 am

Strange - no announcement or anything. Just an added destination in their drop down menus'.
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:05 am

Quoting Concorde001 (Reply 33):

I found a fare with Air France on the same dates for £494.60!

Perhaps GSM will be selling them as charter flights to other operators/tour operators?
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:06 am

Quoting Mhodgson (Reply 28):
Have T3 actually dropped MAN-STN though?

Yes they have, the aircraft is now based at LBA, and ferries in on a Sunday to operate the INV service, and ferries back out again after the route, which was normally operated by the MAN based J41.

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:06 am

Remember the cock-up that was AV8?! Well, let;s just see flyGlobespan do better...somehow I doubt it. I can;t see MAN being able to support a three times a week CPT service...unless it goes via PMI and DUB in the same way the AV8 service did!
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting GLAGAZ (Reply 29):
Totally random !!

Im sure it can do well if tour operators buy a large portion of seats, though the route will certainly be isolated from the rest of the GSM route network

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 27):
Yet another kick in the teeth for Eastern, lost out on Stansted to Air Berlin, now no doubt losing this to FlyBe.

More than likely. They have lost out to BE on NWI-EDI as well. I can easily see T3's only MAN route being INV before long
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:51 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 37):
unless it goes via PMI and DUB in the same way the AV8 service did!

I suspect that was the cockup that led to the failure of AV8 - who wants to travel via DUB and PMI when you can make one stop at LHR/CDG/AMS/FRA?
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:44 am

Quoting Humberside (Reply 38):
More than likely. They have lost out to BE on NWI-EDI as well. I can easily see T3's only MAN route being INV before long

It will be interesting to see how the two airlines compete from Manchester. I think you might find that Eastern have other thoughts of where their aircraft might operate between should they suffer at the hands of flybe.

Scottiedog
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:15 pm

T3 news:

Zoom In has closed in arrivals and will re-open as an Alpha retail otlet. The hairdressers next door has also closed and will be turned in to a sauna, I kid ye not.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:40 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 36):
somehow I doubt it. I can;t see MAN being able to support a three times a week CPT service

On the contrary JNB and CPT have huge potential from MAN. BMI were expected to start daily services down there but decided to go to LHR instead (with RUH).

This is a bold move if B4 can get rights to sell from South Africa too.

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:45 pm

But they still don;t have approval to run the route from the SA authorities, right? Hmmm...Hardly booking with confidence if that's the case!
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:31 pm

Hi All

Having flown MAN-HEL-MAN last week, I was just wondering why AY's Embraer 170's have to park in that funny little stand seemingly in the middle of the apron? Can't they park at t3?

Thank in advance!
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:38 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 42):
But they still don;t have approval to run the route from the SA authorities, right? Hmmm...Hardly booking with confidence if that's the case!

Check out the official thread Gayrugbybloke, and you'll see the reasons why.
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:43 pm

Quoting DavidT (Reply 43):
Having flown MAN-HEL-MAN last week, I was just wondering why AY's Embraer 170's have to park in that funny little stand seemingly in the middle of the apron? Can't they park at t3?

Its because BA don't have a towbar for the Embraer 170. There are only two towbars on the airport, we (Swissport) have one for the AZ, and Servisair Globeground have one for LOT, but as its BA we don't loan any towbars to them.
So as the aircraft can't be pushed it has to go on the new drivethru stands.

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:58 am

Useless info: SAS just picked up the handing contract for City Airline.

A little rumour to play with: now MH is refocusing on going after leisure pax and perhaps increasing cabin capacity, they do mention that they may offer more flights to some destinations perhaps with smaller aircraft, offering greater convenience. They predict a timescale in 12 to 24 months for this to happen therefore a 6 weekly 777 may replace the 4 weekly 744 by 2008.

David
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:18 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 46):
Useless info: SAS just picked up the handing contract for City Airline

Not useless info for me! More contracts are certainly welcome at SAS! lol

New route: Manchester to Bergen, twice a week- thursdays and sundays, with Norwegian Airlines

Thur DY1340 Arr Manchester 20:15 DY1341 Dep Manchester 20:45
Sun DY1342 Arr Manchester 14:30 DY1343 Dep Manchester 15:00

Flights start 6th April

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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 46):
They predict a timescale in 12 to 24 months for this to happen therefore a 6 weekly 777 may replace the 4 weekly 744 by 2008.



Quoting MANmatt (Reply 47):
New route: Manchester to Bergen, twice a week- thursdays and sundays, with Norwegian Airlines

Thanks for that info. It's all good, the best bits of news are the totally unexpected ones. The latter sounds perfect for the short-break market, hopefully both ways.
 
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RE: Manchester News UK 3

Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:07 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 46):
Useless info: SAS just picked up the handing contract for City Airline.

Not a surprising move. SAS will also codeshare on all City Airline routes, including MAN
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