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Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:10 am

Hello all

I was wondering who was the first airline to offer daytripper from YYZ, ORD, BOS, EWR or JFK to LHR. Was it AA, AC, BA or UA? AC introduce the day tripper in late 80s or early 90s if I do recall.
 
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:25 am

Not sure, but I absolutely love taking them. I took an IAD-LHR recently and had no ill-effects from jet lag. Does anyone know how many we have from North America to Europe, and what the routes are? I would like to know what the overall availability might be...
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:29 am

Can someone enlighten me? Whats daytripper?
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:34 am

Quoting Cadet57 (Reply 2):
Can someone enlighten me? Whats daytripper?

Takes off early in the morning on the east coast (830-900 in the morning) and lands in the evening (around 830 PM) on the same day in Europe
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:41 am

Quoting Congaboy (Reply 1):
Does anyone know how many we have from North America to Europe, and what the routes are?

BA and AA both have one from JFK-LHR. BA and Virgin have EWR-LHR, and VS is starting a JFK-LHR one soon.

As far as I know, BA and AA have one from BOS to LHR. They also exist from ORD and possibly IAD, but I don't know the frequency.
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:49 am

I think BA was the first from the New York area. I remember taking the daylight flight back in the 1980s, and that was before AA or UA even flew to LHR. I'm not sure whether pan Am or TWA flew them or not. I have no idea about AC.
 
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:27 am

VS used to offer them on JFK-LHR a couple of years ago so they aren't really "starting" a new flight but more like "resuming" a discontinued one. I took VS026 in January 2001 and connected to the BD135 flight to DUB. This really was one of the most convenient itineraries I have ever done. Unfortunately, when I tried taking AA another time on AA142 to connect to EI187 to DUB I didn't make it. AA put me in the Sheraton LHR and booked me on the first EI in the morning.

As far as I know these are the current daytime flights from North America to Europe:


AA142 LV JFK 8.30am
AA156 LV BOS 9am
AA090 LV ORD 9.10am

BA178 LV JFK 9am
BA186 LV EWR 8.10am
BA238 LV BOS 8.15am
BA224 LV IAD 8.05am (starts 28 MAR)

UA 922 LV IAD 9.27am

VS018 LV EWR 08.20am

AA used to operate AA106 as a 9.30am departure to LHR. That was eventually shelved in favor of adding a 6:55-7:00p AA122 to LHR.
 
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:52 am

PA had flight 100 or 102 that left each day from JFK to LHR @ 10AM
 
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:02 am

UA has a flight that leaves ORD at 6am and arrives LHR at 9:55pm that day, flight 922. It is a change of flight, so it is TECHNICALLY the IAD-LHR flight that is the daytripper, but just to add to the list...


I took one of these once, the morning AA ORD-LHR...oh I HATED it. Never again...unless it's really cheap  Wink
 
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:26 am

Air Canada have their AC868 which leaves Toronto Pearson at 9am and lands at London Heathrow at 9.15pm, operated daily with a Boeing 767-300. I notice that the same aircraft performs another North Atlantic service with a colloquial name (a la Red Eye, Daytripper), the Poor Man's Concorde. A Poor Man's Concorde is a westbound subsonic flight that leaves Europe quite early in the morning, arriving at or before lunchtime in North America. A classic case is BA's BA117, a 747-400 which leaves Heathrow at 8.20am and arrives at Kennedy at 10.50am. I know United used to have an even earlier one, left LHR at 7.45am and arrived at JFK at 10am. Anyway the aircraft (763) that operates Air Canada's Daytripper then operates their Poor Man's Concorde back to Toronto the next morning, leaves Heathrow at 8.55am and arrives at Toronto at 10.50am.

Quoting SW733 (Reply 8):
I took one of these once, the morning AA ORD-LHR...oh I HATED it. Never again...

Really? Everyone I know who's ever done it said it transformed their preconceptions of longhaul travel (they may not have used those exact words). I'm so intrigued I'm doing my first eastbound Daytripper in a few weeks, the BA daylight flight from Kennedy to LHR.
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Tue Feb 21, 2006 11:50 pm

BA has operated a daylight JFK-LHR flight leaving JFK at 10 AM for many years. I certainly took it in 1975 as it was BA592 with the fantastic routing
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:20 am

A real daytripper was on the BA Concorde leaving at 1030, flying back from JFK arriving around 2130. In the summer it was daylight all the way.

BA had a special day return fare for businessmen who needed to meet personally in JFK.

I did it to celebrate my 50th birthday a few years back - I shall never forget it!

Back to the thread header - as BOAC Cabin Crew in the early 60s, I regularly flew the 1000 Monarch 707 service from IDL (JFK), arriving LHR around 2130 - again daylight all the way in the summer. Working in the First Class cabin with all sorts of movie and TV personalities as passengers, it was great fun carving a juicy sirloin Steak from the trolley! Oh yes, those were the days!

[Edited 2006-02-21 16:26:04]
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:52 am

The best daytripper I ever took was BGI to LHR on Concorde which BA operated in their winter schedules for several years - departed midday, arrived 19.45 (and you got to walk out to the aircraft across the apron in Caribbean sunshine!)....ah, happy days!
These days BOS to LHR on BA's 777 is the only daytripper I travel regularly. I don't find jet-lag a problem but I hate the "let's close the blinds and all pretend like it's night-time" approach encouraged by the crew.
 
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RE: Who Was The 1st Airline To Offer Daytripper To LHR

Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:16 am

Could have been PA which had an 8:30 or 9:00 am departure from JFK to LHR for a number of years. So did BA and UA at various times.

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