ehho
Posts: 769
Joined: Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:26 am

Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:16 pm

As I was looking at this neighboring thread:
Cheap Flights On 'rare' Airliners (by Canberra Feb 20 2006 in Civil Aviation)
I got an idea: why not try to enumerate unusual carriers/aircraft serving unlikely destinations that are bookable, like 5th freedom and feeder flights.

I can think of the soon ending RG CDG-AMS leg, and the remaining RG LHR-CPH leg. Then there's CX application for HKG-SVO-MAN pending 5th freedom approval by Russia.

Any suggestions?

[Edited 2006-02-21 08:26:52]
"Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as much as you please" -- Mark Twain
 
UpperDeck79
Posts: 1062
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:14 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:19 pm

Iran Air B747SP NRT-PEK once weekly. I so want to fly that, it's a pitty I don't have time for it this time.  Sad

(They also fly ICN-NRT once weekly but no traffic rights for that leg.)
AY and ANA rock!
 
TriStar500
Posts: 4411
Joined: Thu Nov 04, 1999 9:50 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 4:36 pm

Like mentioned by me in the other thread: daily MAD-FRA-MAD on Lan Chile A343.
Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
 
Jayce
Posts: 499
Joined: Sat Nov 06, 1999 10:36 am

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 5:13 pm

Out of YVR you have a few to choose from:

JL to MEX
PR to LAS
CX to JFK

And soon to be QF to SFO.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" -Homer Simpson
 
Fly2CHC
Posts: 443
Joined: Wed Jun 15, 2005 10:35 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 7:11 pm

I've done a few interesting ones:

Kuwait Airways JFK-LHR
Aerolineas Argentinas LHR-CDG (1993)
Air New Zealand FRA-LAX (2000)
United AKL-MEL (2001)
Korean NAN-AKL (1997)
Emirates MEL/BNE/SYD-AKL/CHC
Sri Lankan KUL-SIN
Gulf Air HKG-BKK-KUL
British Airways AKL-KUL (1991)
KLM BAH-AUH
Cathay Pacific DXB-BAH
Azal (Azerbijani Airways) LGW-IST
Qantas SIN-KUL (1995)

I think Malaysia EZE-CPT/JNB would be cool!
 
kiwiandrew

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:01 pm

not sure whether they had traffic rights , but a few years ago NZ had a once per week FRA-LGW ( or was it FRA-LHR ?) sector - it operated in one direction only as part of a triangular LAX-FRA-LON-LAX flight - any NZ staff recall whether it was LGW or LHR ... and whether traffic rights existed ?
 
Aisak
Posts: 549
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:56 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:44 pm

Thai BKK-FCO-MAD
Qatar DOH-FCO-MAD

so i guess we have lots of MAD-FCO traffic
 
aircanada014
Posts: 1224
Joined: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:24 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:32 pm

Next year AC will have YYZ-LAX-SYD with their new 777s..
 
kiwiandrew

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:42 pm

Quoting Aisak (Reply 6):
Thai BKK-FCO-MAD

at one time TG operated BKK-ATH-FCO as well - they also had both an
AKL-SYD-BKK and (briefly ) a SYD-JKT-BKK - as TG used to allow unlimited online stops on their European fares out of New Zealand this meant that pax could go from AKL to MAD with free enroute stops in SYD JKT BKK ATH and FCO with the only extra cost being the taxes  Big grin
 
ANother
Posts: 1833
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:47 am

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:49 pm

Quoting AirCanada014 (Reply 7):

Don't they operate YVR-HNL-SYD, this year?
 
planemannyc
Posts: 939
Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:54 am

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Tue Feb 21, 2006 9:59 pm

I like these:

YVR-LAS Philippine Airlines
JFK-GRU Japan Airlines


Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc
 
ZK-NBT
Posts: 4870
Joined: Mon Oct 16, 2000 5:42 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:42 am

Not sure how cool these are but other than what has already been mentioned here, most of these are just natural stopovers enroute anyway.

BNE-AKL: Royal Brunei, Garuda
SYD-AKL: LAN, Aerolineas

TG previously also had AKL-BNE-BKK.

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 5):
it operated in one direction only as part of a triangular LAX-FRA-LON-LAX flight

Hmm, I thought that was part of the shortlived

AKL-PPT-DFW-LGW service with a continuation to FRA!? I maybe wrong. Whatever it was, i've no idea if they had traffic rights.
 
pgtravel
Posts: 237
Joined: Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:04 am

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:32 am

I flew LAX-GRU on JL back in 1998 which no longer operates, but there are still some gems out there. Unfortunately, most of the ones I know are long haul so not as easy to hop on for a quick trip.

MH EWR-ARN on a 777
NZ LAX-LHR on a 744
TN LAX-CDG on a 340
AI on a bunch of US - Europe routes

and my personal favorite
BG JFK-BRU on a D10!

Of course, may not be the best plan after this article.
 
FogCreekCEO
Posts: 23
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2004 12:09 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:56 am

El Al Toronto -> LAX
 
keno
Posts: 1809
Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2004 5:46 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:00 pm

Few record holders for Malaysia Airlines :

EZE-JNB on MH is the only direct air link between Argentina and Africa. It is also one of only 4 airlines that links South America with Africa, the other 3 being SA, Taag and Tacv.

Before EK started its DXB-JFK route, MH was the only airline to offer nonstop service between UAE and USA. MH's EWR flights are now routed via ARN.

During the days when MH flew to MEX, MH was the only airline to offer 747 service between LAX and MEX. It had full traffic rights until it was revoked, which marked the end of MH presence in MEX not long after that.
 
jacobin777
Posts: 12262
Joined: Sat Sep 11, 2004 6:29 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:34 pm

try flying PK from ORD-MAN on one of their 777's..........thats a bit different..!
"Up the Irons!"
 
User avatar
coronado
Posts: 1131
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 1999 9:42 am

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:19 pm

My most interesting one was Bahrain-Baghdad in 1984 on a Korean Airlines 747, back when the USA was actively financing food exports to Iraq supporting Iraq because Iraq was then at war against Iran, not too long after the Iran hostage crisis. The 747 was almost entirely in a Y class configuration, full of Korean construction workers flying in to build stuff in Iraq. I had to lay over in Bahrain for a couple days to get the required Iraqi visa to fly up to Baghdad.
The Original Coronado: First CV jet flights RG CV 990 July 1965; DL CV 880 July 1965; Spantax CV990 Feb 1973
 
MAH4546
Posts: 24522
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:44 pm

RE: Cool 5th Freedom/feeder Flights

Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:05 pm

Air France has an island hopper service from Miami on an A320. Operates Miami-Port Au Prince-Pointe Pitre-Fort de France-Cayenne and back. It provides the French Antilies and French Guayana with their only service to the mainland US. The trip takes just about the whole day, with the plane overnighting in CAY or MIA depending on the day and then doing the reverse routing the next day, with Mondays off. And, as a bonus, hot breakfeast on MIA-PAP and hot dinner on PAP-MIA. Now that's exotic...
a.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: 737max8, AC_B777, B757Forever, Baidu [Spider], BeachBoy, flyingclrs727, grbauc, itisi, jaybird, MAH4546, MaxxFlyer, par13del, remymartin11, SuseJ772, tomaheath, United1, VirginFlyer, Yahoo [Bot], Yflyer, zkeoj and 288 guests