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2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:44 am

Looks like some better fares are on the way for New Yorkers! Doesn't say anything about fares, just markets. Winners, losers, tie?

http://www.nydailynews.com/business/story/393207p-333390c.html

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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:11 pm

It just shows that AA does not feel B6 is even in the same leauge much less competing with AA.
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:15 pm

The article really did not say much of anything, more of a fuff piece if anything.
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:32 am

I wonder what this means: ""What we're looking at is what the next generation of airports will look like," said Maruster."

I wonder what innovating things are in the works for the new T5.
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:41 am

With DL announcing its expansion at JFK, it seems like that airport is becoming an even more competitive market. Good for NYC, that's for sure....
 
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:03 pm

Completely stupid puff piece. There's no "dogfight" at all. AA gave up competing aggressively against JetBlue from JFK after their disasterous triple-miles and quick-free-round-trip promotion and expansion of flights and cities. Where was the Daily News when AA pulled out of LGB? SNA? Now, the best AA can muster is "we're not going anywhere". And they finally are doing something about that embarassing piece of garbage terminal. Swell. That's a "dogfight"? Puh-leese.
 
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:09 pm

Quoting FA4B6 (Reply 3):
I wonder what innovating things are in the works for the new T5.

On Monday, I flew B6 JFK-BOS on their E90, returned yesterday evening. I had a great experience with B6 and absolutely loved the E90.

Construction on the new T5 has ALREADY started. The satellite terminals at the end of the "tubes" have been torn down and excavation appears underway. While the new T5 may not be ready for operations until 2009, it is clear B6 can do with a larger facility than T6.

BTW, will T6 be torn down once the new T5 is inaugurated?

If so, will T7 be renamed "T6" and will AA's terminal be renamed "T7"? Curious...
 
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:27 pm

The article states nothing new. Nevertheless, it's expected from the New York Post. (I cannot disagree more with their publishing ethics. You should hve seen the little charade they pulled off about one of the U.S Olympiads this year. Disgusting.)

Quoting Pdpsol (Reply 6):
Construction on the new T5 has ALREADY started. The satellite terminals at the end of the "tubes" have been torn down and excavation appears underway. While the new T5 may not be ready for operations until 2009, it is clear B6 can do with a larger facility than T6.

I haven't seen the new excavating yet. Sounds neat. Can't wait to check it out.

As for your other quetions, T6 will be torn down and either used as a hard stand or as a 10-gate concourse that connects to the new T5.

As far as changing the terminal numbers, I don't really see it happening. Basically, I see the new JetBlue terminal being called "Terminal 5/6".

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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:34 pm

"JetBlue says its new terminal, which will have 26 gates, will be the world's largest in terms of square footage when completed in 2009. "


Does that mean it will take over HKG's terminal? I feel that HKG's terminal will still be bigger than the new B6's terminal in 2009.
 
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:40 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 7):
As for your other quetions, T6 will be torn down and either used as a hard stand or as a 10-gate concourse that connects to the new T5.

While T6 is really not too bad compared to other terminals (cough T3 cough), I find it disappointing that B6 would consider keeping it around after building a near billion dollar terminal. It would kill the image.
One idea though, would be to make it the "international" departure/arrival terminal for the airline, should they expand enough to warrant 10 gates solely for international flights. Or they could use it for the shuttle (or all E190) flights, too. It'll be interesting to see what comes of it, regardless.
 
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:43 pm

This is the second time I hear this "T5 is going to the largest Terminal in the world" I find that hard to believe the space out there doesn't seem big at all! Interesting!.
 
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:12 pm

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 7):
The article states nothing new. Nevertheless, it's expected from the New York Post. (I cannot disagree more with their publishing ethics. You should hve seen the little charade they pulled off about one of the U.S Olympiads this year. Disgusting.)

Sorry, I failed to find that article on NYpost.com. I did however get transferred to the NYDaily News website.
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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:31 pm

I'm not sure referring to B6 as an "air giant" is accurate, they are still in their infancy and experiencing the growing pains that go with right along with it.

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RE: 2 Air Giants In Dogfight - AA Vs B6 - NYC

Thu Mar 09, 2006 8:40 pm

Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 9):
While T6 is really not too bad compared to other terminals (cough T3 cough), I find it disappointing that B6 would consider keeping it around after building a near billion dollar terminal. It would kill the image

Sorry, I should have stated it more clearly. The current T6 will be knocked down, and the land will be used as a 10-gate add-on.

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 11):
Sorry, I failed to find that article on NYpost.com. I did however get transferred to the NYDaily News website.

It was about an Olympic ice skater from the U.S who fell twice during her performance. I watched it - the falls weren't great - but the rest of her routine was amazing. The article completely shattered her, using the word "shame" even in the title (I don't remember the exact name of it). The only picture of her was one of her falling.

The person who wrote the article had absolutely no class. I give all support to the people who perform in the Olympics because they train so hard and are so talented. I could never put someone down like the NY Daily News did. It was horrendous to see that.

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