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Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:01 pm

Hello everyone,

I have been an airliners.net visitor since 2000 but this is the first time I sign up as a member. I am interested in knowing which routes will THY fly their brand new A330 and when they will fly to USA. How many A330 have they ordered and how many have been received? Thanks all and appreciate any of your comments.
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:45 pm

Ydahman,
Welcome to a.net, happy to have you here. TK has two 330s as of now, from a total of 5 planes ordered.

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They have been doing mostly AMS, LHR, DUS . Recently, I think one went to Beijing, when one A340 was stuck in JFK, and another going through some renovations. I have also heard rumors that one made it to JFK. But I think there are still some ETOPS issues before 330s can serve JFK, and from other discussions I understand that they will be mainly used for Asian routes.
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:54 pm

IAH.........? Hey, I can dream can't I?  laughing 

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Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:04 pm

Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 2):
IAH.........? Hey, I can dream can't I?

You know, you are not that far off. I used to live in Houston in the late 80's, and was surprised to see a huge Turkish population there, including one of the few consulates in the US. And lots of Turks were there because of good colleges, and good hospitals. But TK is planning on IAD, LAX and maybe YYZ if the Canadians agree, on this side of the pond.
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 1:06 pm

The core summer schedule has them flying IST-BKK, IST-PEK-PVG.

However I am sure the type will also pop up on plenty domestic and European services based on loads.
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:28 pm

How long will it be before THY renew their A340 especially the ones they have been using to ORD and JFK?
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:17 pm

In the near future, TK is planning to seperate BKK and SIN flights. I guess on these routes, some days 330s will be used.
Currently they are mostly used on European routes as mentioned before..
 
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Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:39 pm

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 5):
How long will it be before THY renew their A340 especially the ones they have been using to ORD and JFK?

The 340 fleet is about 10 yrs. old. Looks like they are going to be renovated as the 330s come in. I am sure some of our Turkey based a.netters can tell us how long this will take. I am hoping for a 787 order for their eventual replacement, can you tell?
 
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 7):
The 340 fleet is about 10 yrs. old. Looks like they are going to be renovated as the 330s come in. I am sure some of our Turkey based a.netters can tell us how long this will take. I am hoping for a 787 order for their eventual replacement, can you tell?

I do not think they will replace the A340 so soon, as you mentioned the fleet is about 10 years old... so why should they replace them?
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:35 am

TK will hang on to those 340s as long as they can. They cannot find a substitute for them in the leasing market. There is a shortage of good long haul aircraft in the market right now. Besides, what will be the substitude?
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:46 am

All 340s will be occupied with PTVs. So that I guess TK will keep them on the fleet more.
 
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:35 am

According to FlightAware one of the Turkish A330-200s made an appearance at JFK on December 29th or 30th.

I heard a while ago that JFK would be one of the destinations served by the A330-200
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:34 am

Germany got alot of turkish residents/ immigrants, many TK widebodys flying to FRA MUC and other places (313 and 332)

Am I right about this?

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Quoting Solnabo (Reply 12):
Germany got alot of turkish residents/ immigrants, many TK widebodys flying to FRA MUC and other places (313 and 332)

Am I right about this?

You are right. A310s have been all over the place over the years, but if you want a slice of where the new A330s have been, you can see some of them if you do a search on the photo database, and just put in TC-JNA as keyword.
 
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Quoting Solnabo (Reply 12):
Germany got alot of turkish residents/ immigrants, many TK widebodys flying to FRA MUC and other places (313 and 332)

Am I right about this?

yes at german airports you will see all TK aircrafts that they have...
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:58 pm

I wouldn't mind seeing one in JED . There's a large Turkish community in Jeddah (and even more in Medina).
 
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:14 pm

Due to scheduling, 4 out of 5 A330s in service will be occupied with doing IST-BKK-IST (becoming a daily non-stop flight in summer), and IST-PEK-PVG (daily).
Two of them along with a 5th extra one (scheduled for delivery in July) will be available to do runs to AMS, LHR, DUS, ORY, DXB, FRA.

India flights (4 weekly to Delhi and 3 weekly to Bombay--Bombay starting this spring) will be on A310s.


I dont know if Lagos, again starting in Spring will be served by A310s or A332.

Last month, THY purchased the first 5 of the 7 A340s (TC-JDJ,JDK,JDL,JDM,JDN) from the leasing company, so it's owned aircraft now, they are not going anywhere soon.
 
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HiJazzey:

I am sure during Hajj time, they will send 330s to Jeddah..
 
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Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:29 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 3):
But TK is planning on IAD, LAX and maybe YYZ if the Canadians agree, on this side of the pond.

Are there any news regarding TK serving Toronto ? I have been hearing about the possibility of this route for a a while but it hasn't materialized yet .
Do Canada and Turkey have a bilateral aviation agreement ? If yes what is the problem then ? Is TK waiting for more planes ?
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MSYYZ,
we beat that horse to death and we are taking stabs at it  Smile
Canadian government is the reason why THY hasn't (or should i say couldn't) start the service to YYZ.
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting HiJazzey (Reply 15):
I wouldn't mind seeing one in JED

According to the TK website I was looking at the time, TK94 to JED on Feb 12th, was operated by 332. Someone can confirm?
 
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Any chance of Turkish returning to MIA?
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:25 am

Quoting MSYYZ (Reply 18):
Do Canada and Turkey have a bilateral aviation agreement ? If yes what is the problem then ?

Been discussed many times previously.

But yes Turkey and Canada do have an air service agreement. It dates from 1950s and only list Montreal as a service point on the Canada side.

THY and the Turkish government has been trying to engage the Canadians for several years now in attempting be granted authority for Toronto.
Canada is neither interested in renegotiating the bilateral nor authorizing extra bilateral authority for Turkey to serve Toronto as there is no desire by a Canadian airline (read Air Canada) to reciprocate.
AC is content feeding Turkey destined pax via Star partner Lufthansa and is not keen to see that traffic diverted to a nonstop THY flight.
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:48 am

Was THY using A340 to BKK PEK and PVG before receiving their A330. Isnt it more convenient to fly their new A330 over the Atlantic and fly their A340 to the above Asian cities.

Have they renovated or renewed any of their A340 yet and if yes have anything been changed internally?
 
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:25 am

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 23):
Was THY using A340 to BKK PEK and PVG before receiving their A330

Yes

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 23):
Isnt it more convenient to fly their new A330 over the Atlantic and fly their A340 to the above Asian cities.

Maybe not, also ETOPS is an issue.

Quoting Ydahman (Reply 23):
Have they renovated or renewed any of their A340 yet and if yes have anything been changed internally?

First one is in the process.
 
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Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:27 am

Quoting MIASkies (Reply 21):
Any chance of Turkish returning to MIA?

I would like to know this too.... Any chance of seeing TK back in MIA?

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Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:08 am

Quoting Robcol99 (Reply 16):
Last month, THY purchased the first 5 of the 7 A340s (TC-JDJ,JDK,JDL,JDM,JDN) from the leasing company, so it's owned aircraft now, they are not going anywhere soon.

Hi Robcol99,
Do you have any info if the remaining 2 will be bought also? Since they are the youngest ones in the fleet (JHI= 7yrs. JII=6 yrs. old), I am trying to make sense out of this. I mean by 2013, the oldest ones will be reaching 20yrs. old, just as 350/787's start to fill the skies. So, shouldn't TK be ordering some, like now?
 
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Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:12 am

Are these GE engines or RR or something else? Whats the difference between the GE and RR engines? What engines do Emirates and MEA use on their A330 and why do they look different than the ones used on THY or Qatar Airways.

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Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:01 am

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 6):
In the near future, TK is planning to seperate BKK and SIN flights. I guess on these routes, some days 330s will be used.

Not planning anymore, the summer schedule is confirm (If they not change at the last minutes).

IST-HKG-IST non-stop (TK070/071) effective from 26 Mar 2006 by A340-300.

IST-SIN-IST non-stop (TK066/067) effective from 01 Aug 2006 by A340-300.

IST-BKK-IST 2 x daily (TK060/061/064/065) effective from 01 AUG 2006 by A330-200.

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Quoting N503JB (Reply 28):
IST-BKK-IST 2 x daily (TK060/061/064/065) effective from 01 AUG 2006 by A330-200

Twice daily? Is that correct, and anyone knows how the loads are on that route?
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fully booked all the time.... but i have not seen info about the second daily anywhere at all.
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Quoting TurkishSky (Reply 30):
fully booked all the time....

TurkishSky,
Is it mostly people going out there for the sunny beaches?, transit? any business travelers?
Thanks,
 
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Could be anything.
A lot of Turkish groups of taken on award tours. These are mostly distributors of famous brands who reach their sales target....
Regular tours....
European passengers via IST..
Also business travellers..
Bangkok is a good transit point for those who go to various other places in the Far East.
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IIRC I read on here that ICN was going to see the 332 also.
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Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:00 pm

TK successfuly provides one stop connection out of Istanbul with low rates and good level of service. I just booked IST-ORD one way business class for $998 for a family member. You cannot beat that price and the great service. Yes, the airplane doesn't have PTVs or flat beds but it still is a biz class.
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Mon Feb 27, 2006 12:27 pm

Quoting Bahadir (Reply 34):
Yes, the airplane doesn't have PTVs or flat beds but it still is a biz class.

It is not a bad fare, you are right? So no PTVs mean , just overhead tvs for the business class?
Thanks.

Quoting N503JB (Reply 28):
IST-BKK-IST 2 x daily (TK060/061/064/065) effective from 01 AUG 2006 by A330-200.

Also anyone can confirm that it is actually 2xdaily to BKK?
 
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Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:13 am

I just found out I've got to go to Beijing in April and the company buying my ticket have booked me on TK MAN-IST-PEK. I'm not thrilled about this (I thought I would end up on AF or KL) but at least it will be on the new A330, or so the schedule says.

Anyhow, does anybody have any info on the Y cabin of the A332 TK-style? Particularly seat pitch and IFE. I know the A343s don't have PTVs - what about the A330s (I'm assuming not although I thought they might do as they are brand new)?????

Any info appreciated as there is a dearth of it around semingly.
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ManchesterMAN,
Lucky you. I think the 330s have PTVs, seat pitch should be 31". I am sure, someone works for TK will have a more specific answer for you.
 
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Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:57 pm

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 36):
Anyhow, does anybody have any info on the Y cabin of the A332 TK-style? Particularly seat pitch and IFE.

The Y cabin has PTV's it says so on the Turkish Airlines Website.

On www.myaviation.net there is a picture of what the new business class looks like.

And for those of you wondering when the A330 will be used to JFK I found this on the TK booking system while I was trying to find something for myself. I don't know if it's really going to be operated by the A330 so I hope someone can confirm.

Route: NEW YORK-ISTANBUL
Departs: 17:30

Arrives: 11.MAR 10:20

Flight Number: TK0002
Operated By: Turkish Airlines
Aircraft Type: AIRBUS A330-200
 
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Thanks for this info guys. Strangely I looked up the seat maps on expert flyer on on both the outbound and return it lists the flight as being operated by the A332, as does every other source I've seen, yet the outbound flight shows an A343 seat map (the return shows the A330 map as expected). Maybe I'll be on the A340 for IST-PEK?
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Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:47 pm

I think someone had mentioned in a previous article that TK is planning to service IAD. Does anyone know when will they fly to IAD? Thanks
 
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TK has been planning to grow slowly and one of our main goals in the coming years is to parallel this theme of being in both asia and europe. The reason why so many long hauls were ordered was mainly to pick up a huge portion of the transit market, connecting europe to asia. The Japan flights (A340) have been booked solid over summers and also the flights to Karachi and India, my friends on the A310 have been telling me stories about there being nowhere to place bags at some point. This is a good sign for Turkish, however on the flip side, any airline growing fast after being stagnant for a while experiences certain difficulties but im sure we will overcome these. Certain flights such as Rostov are suffering, the other day it left with 22 pax and came back with 14....so those numbers aren't doing so well, a lil advertising should pick up the pace from Russia, Im goin to suggest a flight AYT-ROS instad os IST, that would be packed over summer i guranteeeeeee it!

A330 - the A330 is going to be the joker of our fleet. Sometimes she will be in Jeddah, other times in London, even domestic hops if she has a couple of free hours to shuttle people to Bodrum for the summer. JFK for sure if the winds and loading conditions are right, far east, definately, all over Europe. She really is going to shine for us at TK, although speculations have evolved, when you see her rotate with her new paint job off 18R, you know it's all good!

A340 - These babies have been around the block, but our mx dept keeps them running and flights tend to leave and come back without too much trouble in relative terms of the airline industry. They will be around for a while, and a quick new refurbishment will hush up the Turkish population, Turks are very much about apperance and the image (imaj imaj kardesim yahu) so a new paintjob and a few new seats and ptvs, bingo! Solving the problem is easy when you know what makes people happy!

B737-400 - most of these (my fleet) are leased aircraft from various companies, they are quite old BUT, the cockpits are well maintained and the aircraft are the backbone of the domestic fleet as well as the close international areas such as the balkans etc. They will be around for a while too

B737-800 - The money maker in Europe/Middle East and Turkmen areas....this aircraft just has it going on, God Bless our fleet!

RJ100 - Im sure Vienna and Tunis miss this beauty, but her time is up, hopefully our last remaining 2 will leave us without any incident, they served well.

A310 - The best looking plane out there, it was a mistake to sell some to Iran Air in my opinion....summer traffic needs these babies!

well hell i just turned this into a TK tribute.... feel free to contribute  Smile

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Thanks for the great info you added to this forum Pilotaydin. Does anyone have any information on how many flights Turkish Airlines operate on daily or weekly basis to some of its destinations worldwide. I flew once from Istanbul to Damascus and Damascus Istanbul and both flights were almost full. Although, I am not sure why THY doesnt fly daily to Damascus. Anyone has any information?

Thanks
 
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Quoting Ydahman (Reply 42):
Does anyone have any information on how many flights Turkish Airlines operate on daily or weekly basis to some of its destinations worldwide.

Ydahman,
Check out the TK website for some of this info:
http://www4.thy.com/deparr/start.tk
Just leave the flight number spot empty, put in different times to see all of the departures out of IST.
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:46 pm

Tunisair often operate AB6s to IST, so why not TK's A332s ?
 
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Anyone has any pictures of the interior of the new THY A330?
 
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I could't find the A330 interiors, but here are the 320, 738 ints.

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I flew on THY 340-300 1.5 year ago and as far as I remember the interior colors look different than the above 2 photos. Thanks for posting the pictures though.
 
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Quoting Ydahman (Reply 47):
I flew on THY 340-300 1.5 year ago and as far as I remember the interior colors look different than the above 2 photos. Thanks for posting the pictures though.

Ydahman,
As posted on another thread, TK is revamping its interiors. Looks like 738s and 320s get different looks. Eventually with the introduction of 332s, 340s will get a facelift, yet to be seen what kind of a scheme. I am very excited that they are not going with some gray, blue, stale, gloomy stuff. I really like the baby blue and brown combo. I hope they reflect the same open thinking in their uniforms, and their whole branding.
 
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Sat Mar 25, 2006 4:18 pm

IST-BKK 2 x Daily - you sure.. Pretty sure still once daily TK60.

For the beaches ?? Yeh right mate.. Turkey has plenty of beaches and sun and very much doubt that there are that many Turks heading to BKK to laze about in the sun.

Main reason - onward connections to SE Asia and Australia
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