flashmeister
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AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:31 pm

I saw tonight on kgw.com that AS 100, PDX-DEN, returned to PDX after takeoff Tuesday morning following (yet another) pressurization problem.

Looks like it was a 734. Flightaware has a pretty good look at the loop it made... http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA100

Anyone have any further details? What is it with AS and pressurization issues lately?
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:45 pm

As far as i know (from seeing the Seattle and Portland local news websites), the problem was the Oxygen masks dropped from the celing for an unknown reason. It could be pressurazation or maybe a malfunction of some kind. There is more info on http://www.king5.com, and http://www.komotv.com
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:59 pm

It looks like AS is having way too many problems with their fleet. Any ideas why all those problems? Who is doing their mx?


-Fer
 
mika
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:35 pm

Can someone please refresh my memory about what the cause was behind the depressurization of the Helios 737-300 last summer?


I seem to recall that it was a missunderstanding/mistake by mx who set one of the pressurization valves to manual/override open but forgot to set it back prior to clearing the aircraft. Or was it some mechanical fault on the plane itself?

An awful lot of Classic 737´s that are involved in depressurization incidents lately, that´s all i can say.
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:52 am

Quoting Mika (Reply 3):
Classic 737´s

hard for me to think of a 737-400/500 as a classic
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:06 am

Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 4):
hard for me to think of a 737-400/500 as a classic

Me too, but Boeing thinks of them that way, so I guess that's what we should do too.


Anyhow, I think you guys are overreacting a little bit. Two pressurization problems in a couple weeks isn't a big deal. This happens a lot more than we know it- it's only news because it happened recently, and the media can create a big stir and keep people talking (and thus tuned in) this way. Kind of like when CNN showed the JetBlue nosewheel incident in California, only to turn around as soon as they got wind and show the YX 717 land in Boston with gear troubles. Neither of them a big deal, but they sure played it up. The questions they were asking 'experts' were so dumb that I wondered if their next question would be, "So, sir, just how reliable are wheels, who invented them, and who can the passengers file suit against for this dangerous invention you call 'wheel'?"
Ridiculous.

Anyhow, not a biggie.

Now, when an AA A300-605 became OVER pressurized to the point that it blew a flight attendant out the door when he opened it... that was newsworthy. Especially since the poor guy died.
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:36 am

Quoting Alaska737 (Reply 4):
hard for me to think of a 737-400/500 as a classic



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Me too, but Boeing thinks of them that way, so I guess that's what we should do too.

Indeed, the 300, 400 and 500 series is the Classic series.
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:48 am

Maybe it was because of the Gang Grafitti in the bins.
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:37 am

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 5):
Anyhow, I think you guys are overreacting a little bit. Two pressurization problems in a couple weeks isn't a big deal. This happens a lot more than we know it- it's only news because it happened recently, and the media can create a big stir and keep people talking (and thus tuned in) this way.

I was talking with an AS CSR (off duty) yesterday and she was saying how she felt the media was all over them for the smallest things. She said that when someone says to her "Oh, I heard about your XYZ trouble the other night!", she says, "Oh, and did you hear about the AA incident the other day?" Invariably, the answer is "No."

Bottom line: The media locally is on their case right now, so any incident will get airtime. Many of the employees are feeding stuff to the media as well, so they know about more than they otherwise might.

It's kinda pathetic to watch the process.

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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:41 am

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 8):
Bottom line: The media locally is on their case right now, so any incident will get airtime.

Don't forget that February is a "sweeps" rating period, when they run exposes' etc. and every molehill becomes a mountain...
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting OPNLguy (Reply 9):
Don't forget that February is a "sweeps" rating period, when they run exposes' etc. and every molehill becomes a mountain...

When I watched KPTV this morning, they were reporting that it was a GQ plane with seven on board...  Yeah sure
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:15 am

When I watched KPTV this morning, they were reporting that it was a GQ plane with seven on board...

That's what you get for watching KPTV.  Smile Was this before or after the daily MethWatch segment?

I realize that the media makes a bigger deal out of this than they should. Thinking this through further, the first pressurization incident this week (the return to SEA) was spotted far below the cabin altitude where masks deploy (and where the Helios jet ran into trouble).

This one came above that altitude, which tells me that the events leading up to the depressurization were indeed different.

Just wanted to get the news that folks in/around AS might have.
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:56 am

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 11):
That's what you get for watching KPTV.

Actually, I found out later, while browsing KGW's web site, that there were two incidents: The GQ incident with a Beechcraft 1900D (Had no idea that GQ even flew to PDX), and the AS depressurization incident (last night).
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:18 am

I heard Alaska is putting the prayer cards in the oxygen masks!
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:24 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 13):
I heard Alaska is putting the prayer cards in the oxygen masks!

Now you're just trash talking  Smile.

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 12):
The GQ incident with a Beechcraft 1900D

Don't tell KING5 - they would never dream that this happens at other airlines.

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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:24 am

I started a new post on the GQ incedent this morning...  Smile
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:50 am

The A/c was N762AS if anyone cares.
 
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RE: AS 100 Emerg Landing @ PDX On Tue 2/21 - Any Info?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:53 am

Add flight 397 today!

A Menzies ramper was arrested last night for beating a United Airlines ramp agent in Seattle. The UA agent was telling the Menzies ramper to slow down.
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