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northwestEWR
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NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:18 am

Yesterday 2/21 at 630PM I saw an NWA A333 at EWR and no KLM aircraft. When I got home I checked with NWA and it was showing that aircraft as NW 64 EWR - AMS and no KLM flight... Today is the same and tomorrow... Did KLM give this route back to NWA ? Is this a permanent change or is this because KLM had an issue with one of its A330s ?
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting NorthwestEWR (Thread starter):
because KLM had an issue with one of its A330s ?

Sort of. KL had an accident with a pushbacktruck and a B747. This B747 got severly damaged and therefor out of service for a while. AMS-YYZ is replaced by B777 (normally B747), AMS-JFK is now a combination of B767/A330 (normally B777) and therefor NW is operating AMS-EWR (normally combination of KL B767/A330). This will be untill March 11, IIRC.
 
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:27 am

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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:49 am

why doesn't KL just lease/use one of NW's parked 744's?? is this way to logical for the "suits" to figure this out??
 
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:53 am

Quoting Rst033 (Reply 3):
why doesn't KL just lease/use one of NW's parked 744's?? is this way to logical for the "suits" to figure this out??

Well, KLM needed a solution immediately, and putting a stored 744 back in service takes some time I think. And it's only for 2 months, it would cost way too much.
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:54 am

Quoting Rst033 (Reply 3):
why doesn't KL just lease/use one of NW's parked 744's?? is this way to logical for the "suits" to figure this out??

well those technically aren't NW's, they are lease rejects. That belong to a leasing co or bank. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:00 am

Quoting Rst033 (Reply 3):
why doesn't KL just lease/use one of NW's parked 744's?? is this way to logical for the "suits" to figure this out??

KL/ NW operate as one carrier across the Atlantic and make joint decisions. I think the "suits" made the right decision and the easiest. It could have even been casual Friday when they made the decision!
 
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 7:47 am

Quoting Rst033 (Reply 3):
why doesn't KL just lease/use one of NW's parked 744's?? is this way to logical for the "suits" to figure this out??

Are you kidding? One look at a NWA 747 Desert Bird, and any airline in their right mind would look elsewhere.
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:12 am

This may be the last time you can see the NYC skyline in a DC10! Big grin (If you don't work for FEDEX)
 
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northwestEWR
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:44 am

What do you mean ? Is the EWR - AMS route getting a NW DC10 ?
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:57 am

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 7):

Are you kidding? One look at a NWA 747 Desert Bird, and any airline in their right mind would look elsewhere.

Nothing wrong with any of the 3 744's there.
 
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:10 am

Quoting NorthwestEWR (Reply 9):
What do you mean ? Is the EWR - AMS route getting a NW DC10 ?

Yeah if i'm right NW is going to us the DC10 as well on the EWR - AMS route
 
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:47 am

Those 744's are not the same a/c anyway. The have been shipped in and out as the leases are renegotiated.
 
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:21 am

Yes, after this week, the A330 will switch to a DC-10 until KLM reinstates the route.
 
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northwestEWR
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:43 am

Looks like it's a NW DC10 until March 12.... After that it's back to the usual 763 and 332 combo with KLM. I think EWR - AMS goes to KLM 777 in August !!
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:13 pm

Quoting NorthwestEWR (Reply 14):
I think EWR - AMS goes to KLM 777 in August !!

KLM is adding a second flight to EWR and that flight will be flown by the 777.
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northwestEWR
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:37 pm

Awesome !! Can't wait to see the KLM T7 at EWR !!
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:11 pm

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 15):
KLM is adding a second flight to EWR and that flight will be flown by the 777.

Really, when? I will be flying EWR-AMS (dont have a reservation yet) on June. Will the second KLM flight be operated by the time?
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RE: NWA On EWR - AMS Now?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:54 pm

Straight from KL res system:
EWR AMS 01-1630 0600* KL 658 330
EWR AMS 01-2350 1305* KL 660 777

You can see the data here for the first of June:
KL658 A332, KL660 T7! Make your choice  Cool I'd try to go on one and come back on the other!
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