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AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:45 pm

Just wondering why did AE go for the CRJ-700? They already have ERJ-135/140/145. Anyways I like it alot especially since it has winglets  Smile Although I have seen it only 3 times (x2 LAX-XNA, x1 BTR-ORD) What routes does it fly besides DFW-ROC/SYR/BUF/NAS/SBA/GSO/TYS/CLE/OKC and ORD-BTR/YUL.


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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:57 pm

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
Just wondering why did AE go for the CRJ-700? They already have ERJ-135/140/145.

Eagle wanted/needed a 70-seat airplane to replace the ATR72s out of DFW and ORD. At the time, as now, there was no way to get an ERJ-145 stretch to fit the requirements, so they knew they would have to go with a different airframe. At the time, the Embraer 170 was not available, so the CRJ-700 it was.
 
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:56 pm

Thanks Commavia for the info  Smile
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:59 pm

I think they also do DFW-SAV but I could be wrong with the CR7.
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:11 am

I've flown on the AE CRJ-700 ORD-MKE. Nice plane, especially since the windows are a bit higher up the wall, so it is in fact possible to see out the window, unlike the CRJ-100 and CRJ-200.
 
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:51 am

They also fly ORD-ROC along with DFW-ROC.
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:01 am

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 3):
think they also do DFW-SAV but I could be wrong with the CR7.

Nope...4 total ERJ-145 flights...DFW-SAV-DFW
 
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:23 am

Quoting MD90fan (Thread starter):
What routes does it fly besides DFW-ROC/SYR/BUF/NAS/SBA/GSO/TYS/CLE/OKC and ORD-BTR/YUL.

Corrections:DFW-TYS all ERJ..DFW-GSO 2 ERJ 1 MD-80...ORD-YUL..No CR7s.

Current flights out of ORD:
ORD-ATL
ORD-BTR
ORD-BUF
ORD-BWI
ORD-CLE
ORD-CMH
ORD-COS
ORD-DCA
ORD-HPN
ORD-LIT (Starting Mar 2)
ORD-MEM (Starting Mar 2)
ORD-MSP
ORD-NAS
ORD-PHL
ORD-XNA

Current flights out of DFW:
DFW-BTR (Sat/Sun Only)
DFW-BUF
DFW-CLE
DFW-DSM
DFW-LBB
DFW-LIT
DFW-MDW
DFW-MSP
DFW-MTJ
DFW-NAS
DFW-OKC
DFW-ORF
DFW-PIT
DFW-ROC
DFW-SBA
DFW-SYR
DFW-TUL
DFW-XNA

No Current CR7 flights out of MIA.

Quoting United_fan (Reply 5):
They also fly ORD-ROC

Sorry..They don't all ER4s.

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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:50 am

You missed ORD-BNA.

And there's at least one odd non-ORD/DFW which is LAX-XNA.


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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:06 am

Quoting Bond007 (Reply 8):
You missed ORD-BNA.

No I didn't..
ORD-BNA 6 ERJ flights..1 MD-80 flight. Did miss LAX-XNA though.
 
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:20 am

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 9):
No I didn't..
ORD-BNA 6 ERJ flights..1 MD-80 flight. Did miss LAX-XNA though.

Yeah, looks like they changed equipment on 4th Feb on the ORD-BNA flight.

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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:29 am

A general question to anyone out here........Is Eagle happy with the performance of the CRJ-700? CASM, low down time due to MX, fuel consumption, customer satisfaction, etc??? Embraer has the new 170's and bigger. If MQ is unhappy with the 700's, could they be interested in aquiring the new E jets?
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:38 am

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 11):
Is Eagle happy with the performance of the CRJ-700? CASM, low down time due to MX, fuel consumption, customer satisfaction, etc???

I would assume that they are, given that it is a far better jet economically and comfortwise than the CRJ-200, and certainly better economically than their ERJ-135/140/145s as well.

Quoting N276AASTT (Reply 11):
Embraer has the new 170's and bigger. If MQ is unhappy with the 700's, could they be interested in aquiring the new E jets?

Actually, I think that if either arm of AMR is to get E-Jets it should be AA. They have said constantly that they need a 100 seater at mainline to replace the F100s (a quiet way of saying they shouldn't have been so hasty with the TWA 717s) and now that the 717 is going out of production and the 736 has crap costs, the E-jets are really THE choice in that market. If that was the case, it would make sense from a commonality prospective to put E170/170s at mainline along side of any E190/195 order
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:07 am

I see the CR7 working TYS DFW at least once a week.
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:14 am

Pensacolaguy,they were using 1 along with the E145's. Must be seasonal .
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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:23 am

Quoting NoBoeingNoGoin (Reply 13):
I see the CR7 working TYS DFW at least once a week.
Alex

Not recently. It's a E145 every flight.


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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:32 am

ord-hpn
ord-phl
ord-xna

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RE: AA/AE And The CRJ-700

Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:47 am

N1120A:

I agree with you that any Embrear 170s or 190s that AMR orders should be flown by AA, if they are configured with two-class seating. Since Eagle has always been single-class service, a two-class configuration in the Eagle fleet would only confuse passengers.

A friend of mine is an AA pilot. He has heard that there have been a lot of complaints by passengers who used to fly routes that had the F100s and now find themselves flying ERJs and CRJs, such as lack of upgrades, lack of FF bonuses, etc.. In addition, the lack of 100 seat aircraft has made scheduling at ORD problematic, because of the FAA limitations on operations by all carriers. For a route that was all or mostly F100s, flying more CRJs and/or ERJs isn't feasible, but cutting frequencies with MD-80s could lose customers.

The only problem with putting the larger Embrears into the mainline fleet is the pilot contract. APA, AA's pilot union, wanted to fly the CRJs. However, under the contract, a CRJ captain would make less than a 777 F/O. Management believes that no captain should make less money than an F/O.

APA's position was that a 777 F/O was not likely to upgrade to captain on the CRJ. More likely, he would go no lower than MD-80. On the other hand, an F/O flying MD-80 or 737 would receive a pay increase, if he moved up to captain on the CRJ.

The pay scales are based on aircraft weight, so much would depend on the weight of the 170 and 190. If they are heavy enough that a junior captain would earn more than a 777 F/O, then management doesn't have deal with the issue. If the weight presents the same problem as the CRJs, then the APA must devise a solution that is acceptable to management.