smokescreen
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TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:51 am

I did a search and couldn't find any answers - I am wondering if anyone knows what sort of routes Convair CV-880s were used on back in the '60s. Transcon? Medium haul? Did TWA use them for any int'l routes?

Thanks in advance for your replies!
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:05 am

I have a Sept 1962 OAG with TWA 880 routes. A full day schedule westbound...

TW 175: STL-MKC-PHX-LAX
TW 147: IDL-ORD-PHX-LAX
TW 185: IDL-MKC-ABQ
TW 151: BOS-IDL-DAY
TW 127: PHL-ORD
TW 121: BOS-ORD-LAX
TW 157: IDL-CMH-ORD
TW 173: IDL-STL
TW 133: PHL-ORD-LAX
TW 159: ORD-LAS-LAX
TW 115: BOS-ORD-MKC-LAX-SFO
TW 131: IDL-PIT-ORD-SFO
TW 143: IDL-ORD-PHX-LAX
TW 169: BAL-ORD-ABQ-PHX
TW 101: IDL-PIT-LAX
TW 145: IDL-ORD-DEN
TW 123: PHL-ORD-MKC
TW 155: IDL-CMH
TW 801: IDL-ORD

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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:11 am

I flew a DL CV-880 from IAH-MSY-BHM in 1969. That's my only experience on an 880 . . .
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:24 am

Quoting Coronado990 (Reply 1):
I have a Sept 1962 OAG with TWA 880 routes. A full day schedule westbound...

TW 175: STL-MKC-PHX-LAX
TW 147: IDL-ORD-PHX-LAX
TW 185: IDL-MKC-ABQ
TW 151: BOS-IDL-DAY
TW 127: PHL-ORD
TW 121: BOS-ORD-LAX
TW 157: IDL-CMH-ORD
TW 173: IDL-STL
TW 133: PHL-ORD-LAX
TW 159: ORD-LAS-LAX
TW 115: BOS-ORD-MKC-LAX-SFO
TW 131: IDL-PIT-ORD-SFO
TW 143: IDL-ORD-PHX-LAX
TW 169: BAL-ORD-ABQ-PHX
TW 101: IDL-PIT-LAX
TW 145: IDL-ORD-DEN
TW 123: PHL-ORD-MKC
TW 155: IDL-CMH
TW 801: IDL-ORD

Thanks for the help - I guess with a username like that you have to be up on Convair-related issues!
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:44 am

A full day CV-880 schedule with DL sept 1962 west and northbound...

DL 883: ATL-DAL-LAX
DL 877: PHL-BAL-MSY-HOU
DL 859: SJU-MSY-LAX (Ex Tu/Su)
DL 851: CCS-MSY-LAX (Tu/Su only)
DL 971: IDL-ATL-MSY-HOU
DL 889: MCO-DAL-LAX-SAN
DL 871: IDL-HOU
DL 919: PHL-BAL-ATL
DL 929: EWR-MSY-HOU
DL 875: PHL-BAL-MSY-HOU
DL 844: MIA-ATL-MEM-ORD
DL 923: EWR-ATL-MSY-HOU
DL 091: IDL-MSY-HOU
DL 900: MIA-TPA-ORD
DL 940: MIA-TPA-CVG-ORD
DL 888: MCO-ATL-CVG-DTW

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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 2:48 am

Quoting Smokescreen (Reply 3):
I guess with a username like that you have to be up on Convair-related issues!

Both of my Grandparents worked at the Convair Plant.
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:31 am

I recall flying a TWA cv880 as a kid from MCI to PHX non stop.
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:40 am

i flew the 880 from PIT-ORD November 66 Dont remember too much but Ord was foggy and we circled around quite awhile before we landed. I remeber this much because it was one of my first airline and jet flts.
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:58 am

TW also flew them between DTW and SFO.

Reportedly Some of TW's 880's were prewired at the factory for high frequency radio installation for overseas use, but I don't believe any were used outside of North America.
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:15 pm

For what its worth, in some ancient home movies, back in '62, my grandpa took a return flight home from what is now BWI then BAL to MIA on a Northeast Convair 880. The movies were taken from BWI (BAL) now defunct outdoor observation deck. Movie quality sucked as to the fact, my dad and other loved ones were not known for their Oscar talent camera work. And, you had to flip the film. Go figure!


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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:45 pm

Most of the DL 880's I flew on were between ATL and Florida destinations. I do remember a few trips between ATL and ORD (including my last 880 trip). I also remember a trip to LAS.

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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:20 pm

I flew from Ft. Lauderdale to ATL in Aug 1971 onboard a Delta 880.
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:15 am

I remember as a teenager in the mid-60s sitting on Fort Lauderdale Beach and every day at 1155am see the one daily departure of a Northeast Airlines
Convair 880 take off for JFK. There was only one other Jet departure a day of any other airline, believe it was an Eastern Boeing 720, can't recall where
it would leave for.

Have great memory of my Dad taking me to the Fort Lauderdale Airport
one evening to see the NE Convair 880 come in from JFK. After all passengers debarked, I asked gate agent if I could take a tour of the plane. He gladly obliged. Those who remember NE Convair 880's will recall there was a forward first class lounge. That evening the gate agent invited me to sit in that
lounge and proceeded to serve me 3 leftover first class steak dinners that
had not been consumed on the flight!

Can you imagine that happening today!
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:04 am

Quoting JMBWEEBOY (Reply 12):
Have great memory of my Dad taking me to the Fort Lauderdale Airport
one evening to see the NE Convair 880 come in from JFK. After all passengers debarked, I asked gate agent if I could take a tour of the plane. He gladly obliged. Those who remember NE Convair 880's will recall there was a forward first class lounge. That evening the gate agent invited me to sit in that
lounge and proceeded to serve me 3 leftover first class steak dinners that
had not been consumed on the flight!

Can you imagine that happening today!

never in a million years now!!! I remember being upgraded to 1st class on a standbye tix,and getting a glass of champaign and I wasn't even 21 at the time. It was in late 60's!! Nevermore  Sad
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:23 am

On occassion TWA would substitute one for a B727 on the ORD-MCI-AMA-ABQ-PHX-LAX route. A real treat!
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 6:28 am

Thanks for all your reminiscences!

So it seems that no US carriers used them for int'l/transborder flights - although what about AA?
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:12 am

AA did not fly the 880s, they had 990s.

Possibly, NE flew the 880 BOS-YUL but I am not sure about that. Besides the mentioned carriers, the other 880 clients were AS, VA, KL SR CX and JL
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:37 am

Quoting Smokescreen (Reply 15):
AA did not fly the 880s, they had 990s.

Thank you - I knew that (I swear!  Smile ) but I should have specified in my question.

If anyone knows about AA cv-990 transborder routes I'd love to hear it, and if anyone can confirm about the NE YUL - BOS 880 flight that would be great!
 
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RE: TWA And DL CV-880 Routes

Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:23 am

My very first jet flight was on a TWA 880 IDL/STL/TUL/OKC continuing onto LAX. That was my first visit to start an education at the University of Oklahoma in September of 1961. Finally swapped out to a 707 the following year. I still have the ticket jacket, flight 167, September 9th, 1961 IDL/OKC seat 23A, ETD 3:45 p.m. Total cost $85.36 including tax. Those were the days.

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