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KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:43 pm

KLM new summer schedule starts March 26th and ends October 28th, 2006.

Europe

The frequency to LHR will increase from 9 to 10 flight per day. DUS, GVA, CPH, MXP, MUC, OSL and ARN will increase to 6 times a day. FRA, GLA and GOT will increase from 4 to 5 times daily. ABZ, NCE and NUE will increase for 3 to 4 flights per day. The frequency to KPB will increase from 7 to 11 weekly services the ending of May. Starting March 26th, BLL will be operated 3 times daily by a KLM cityhopper Fokker F70.
Flights to LYS, NCE, TLS, MRS and BOD will all be operated by KLM.

North America

KLM and Northwest Airlines will significantly increase their joint venture services between Europe and North America.
The AMS-JFK flight operated by KLM increases from 11 to 14 times weekly. EWR goes from 7 to 10 times weekly operated with a 777 and A330 by KLM. YVR goes from 5 times a week to a daily service operated with a mix of MD11 and A330 aircraft.
The 6 times weekly BBJ AMS-IAH service will continue as usual on top of the regular 747 KLM service.

Middle & South America

Flights to/from BON will increase from 11 to 12 times a week. AUA will continue with its 5 weekly MD11 flights, however in July/August a 6th flight (747) will be added (AMS-AUA-CUR-AMS). SXM will decrease from 3 to 2 flights, which is customary in this period.

Africa & Middle-East

The KLM frequency to ADD/KRT will increase from 2 to 3 times weekly. The A330 will replace the 767 on this route. The amount of flights between Ams and DXB will go from a 12 weekly service to a twice daily service starting May 28th. The frequency to EBB will increase from 3 to 4 times weekly.

Asia

KLM will start a new AMS-CTU service (Chengdu) operated twice a week with a 777. This flight is codeshared with China Southern (CZ). Flights to PVG will be operated by a 747-400 combi and flights to KIX with a 777.

KLM Cargo:
KLM Cargo obtained rights for a 4th weekly freighter service to KIX. The 747-400ERF will operate this flight to KIX with a stop in ALA.

Source: Luchtvaartnieuws & KLM.

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:49 pm

Correction: The AMS BLL was scheduled to be flown by F70, but advance bookings were so high that the flights have been upgraded to F100. Roumours will have it, that it might be 737 from October or a 4th frequency
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting 747400F (Reply 1):
The AMS BLL was scheduled to be flown by F70, but advance bookings were so high

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:00 pm

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 2):
All Danish sunlovers! Most of the passengers connect with MP here in AMS to sunny destinations

Or offshore oil workers ...
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:11 pm

Flights to IST will go from 2 to 3 times daily.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:06 pm

Any news of KL's return to BEG?
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:25 pm

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 5):
Any news of KL's return to BEG?

Not likely. After the merger with AF, it was decided that KLM would focus on the Nothern part of Europe (UK, Germany, Scandinavia, Baltics) and AF on the south. Destinations that have so much traffic that they can support flights to both AMS and CDG will retain both carriers of course, like CPH, BCN, FCO, etc.

As AF is already flying into BEG, it is more likely that, if AF-KL wants to increase capacity to BEG, that AF would add more flights, than KL adding flights.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:30 pm

Thanks Joost, precise and logical answer.

AF flights ex. BEG are packed so I thought that KL may attempt something on its own considering their services to our neghbouring states.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:31 pm

Will AMS-LAX-AMS ever change to 772 service from the current 744, or change the 74D to 772 on the additional flight?

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:24 am

Can anybody confirm that KL will increase AMS-BRU to 7x daily (after the recent increase to 6x daily)?

Thanks
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting GlobeTrekker (Thread starter):
Middle & South America

Flights to/from BON will increase from 11 to 12 times a week. AUA will continue with its 5 weekly MD11 flights, however in July/August a 6th flight (747) will be added (AMS-AUA-CUR-AMS). SXM will decrease from 3 to 2 flights, which is customary in this period

What happened to the talks of KL ceasing their BON flights in favour of nonstop flights to LIM (772ER) and transferring ops to either CUR or AUA?

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:55 am

Bring those MD-11s to IAD!!!! Please, KLM bring them at least for the summer!!!!!!!!!  Sad

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:24 am

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 8):
Will AMS-LAX-AMS ever change to 772 service from the current 744, or change the 74D to 772 on the additional flight?

not likely, as a lot of horses are carried on the LAX route (very few flights leaving without horses), and they can only be carried on the main deck (not limited to the fact that the animal attendant must have acces to the horses).

And it is a 744M, the 744D is a domestic version (no wingtips is the most noticable change) only ANA and JAL operate.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:42 am

There was a thread started by AA B777-200 regarding the KLM summer schedule back in December. He mentioned that they would drop DAM. When I check the timetable, DAM is still showing up (in fact with 5 flights instead of their 4 flights that they were running in the fall). Do you have any news of this? Thanks for your help!
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting COSAMICLE (Reply 13):
He mentioned that they would drop DAM

Don't know about DAM, what I know is that KL will drop TBS.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:58 am

Quoting Sabena 690 (Reply 9):
Can anybody confirm that KL will increase AMS-BRU to 7x daily

I don't know but it would surprise me really as KL is a partner in the High Velocity Train service AMS-BRU-PAR that is about to be inaugurated.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:05 pm

What kind of pax usually travel on AMS-BRU? Connecting pax or people who actually have to be in Brussels?

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:18 pm

Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 16):
What kind of pax usually travel on AMS-BRU? Connecting pax or people who actually have to be in Brussels?

GT

Mainly connecting pax.......pax connecting to overseas destinations not served out of BRU on a nonstop basis.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:11 am

Pitty KLM doesn't fly to Zagreb.

I would really love to see their aircraft, like F70 @ Pleso Airport.  Smile
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:19 am

I keep hearing rumours of a WX operated DUB AMS 146 operation x5 daily starting this summer, but nothing ever seems to be announced.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:34 am

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 19):
I keep hearing rumours of a WX operated DUB AMS 146 operation x5 daily starting this summer, but nothing ever seems to be announced.

why should there be, codeshare on EI (I know, loco and stuff, but still)
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 3:23 am

lets all hope they switch LIM from an MD 11 to a 777
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:39 am

Quoting RootsAir (Reply 21):
lets all hope they switch LIM from an MD 11 to a 777

That's what I'm wondering myself. Rumors I've read are getting stronger about KL pulling out of BON in favour of non-stop 777 flights to LIM and transferring the remaining BON flights to either AUA or CUR. If KL will replace the MD11 with the 777 on the LIM routes, this will become a nonstop flight. If so, I don't understand the additional flights to BON as BON itself has little demand. The biggest part of the BON flights have South America bound passengers.

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 5:55 am

What about KL605/606 AMS-SFO-AMS, will it be operated totally operated by M11s or will it go back to the 772s, which where used last summer on this route.

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:04 am

I have a question regarding the AMS-EWR-AMS flight. When will there be 2 flight a day? Will there be a A332 daily and the second flight a 772? Is the second flight already on the KLM reservation system?
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:29 pm

Quoting LACA773 (Reply 8):
Will AMS-LAX-AMS ever change to 772 service from the current 744, or change the 74D to 772 on the additional flight?

LAX is more than robust with Cargo, yet cannot support a dedicated Cargo flight. Perhaps the 777-200 will dawn at Los Angeles, only when and if KLM can dedicate a 747-400Cargo on a mixed operation like AMS-SFO-LAX-AMS.

From experience in the summertime Los Angeles needs the capacity of a full 747-400, or 777-200 that flight has always gone out full, always!

Quoting N593HA (Reply 23):
What about KL605/606 AMS-SFO-AMS, will it be operated totally operated by M11s or will it go back to the 772s, which where used last summer on this route.

Per SkyTeam Timetable :

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:50 pm

Quoting Checo77 (Reply 24):
I have a question regarding the AMS-EWR-AMS flight. When will there be 2 flight a day? Will there be a A332 daily and the second flight a 772? Is the second flight already on the KLM reservation system?
Thanks a lot,
Adam

If I recall correctly the second EWR flights will start when the summer schedule begins and will be operated on Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. The Thursday and Sunday flight will start from March 26th and the Sunday flight from May 29th These flights are operated by the 772 on top of the daily A332.

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:57 pm

Why does KL fly to both JFK and EWR? Is it because the JFK slots are too valuable to give up and the CO hub in EWR as a SkyTeam member airline?

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:34 pm

COSAMICLE,
You're absolutely right! KLM did plan to drop DAM but reinstated the flight and KLM will fly 3 weekly 737s into Syria this summer season.

NH593HA,
Sorry! No 777s this summer to SFO. As planned...daily MD11s into San Francisco. Nobody as happy as I am since I don't work 777s!  Smile


A388,
I guess EWR is a good alternative for people living in Jersey and has also proven to have tons of connections available on CO compared to JFK.
And correct.... NO airline gives up its slots at JFK, yields are good. NYC is (at this point) ranked No2 when it comes to net profit (right behind Curacao) in KLM's figures.

And GlobeTrekker is right.... This summer should see a daily A330-200 operate KL's 657/658 into EWR, with the additional flights being operated by the mighty 777.

And BON operations... Nonstop LIM (777)... One step at a time, boys! If KLM drops BON operations and moves its LIM/GYE/UIO flights to CUR (or AUA), or if they start up nonstops into LIM... Not likely to happen this summer, so let's be patient and see what the swans will do!

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting AA B777-200 (Reply 28):
Not likely to happen this summer, so let's be patient and see what the swans will do!

Hahaha, you say this in a funny way but I agree with you. Who knows what will happen with the much discussed BON flights  Smile

Groeten (=cheers),

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:09 pm

Hey

I guess MNL will remain a daily 772, but was checking to be sure?

bye  Smile
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:12 pm

Quoting JRadier (Reply 20):
why should there be, codeshare on EI (I know, loco and stuff, but still)

From a KLM perspective, feed to and from Dublin isnt at the level it should be, and they are losing significant business to Lufthansa and BA.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:33 pm

Quoting CityAirline (Reply 30):
I guess MNL will remain a daily 772, but was checking to be sure?

They will remain as daily nonstop flights (KL803/4) during the summer.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:51 pm

Quoting AA B777-200 (Reply 28):
so let's be patient and see what the swans will do

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:23 am

Why doesn't KLM start another flight into Moscow. They only have one, and it's departure is late in the day, therefore not allowing any connections. They have three flights to Helsinki, which is almost equally as far. Sometimes on the Moscow flight they use a 767, but usually it's 737. I think the yields are high from Moscow. Almost always are the fares priced full fare. Always above 300euro.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:51 am

MOW is now served exclusively by 737s. Whatever the demand, KL cannot add flights to MOW because at this point SU has only one daily flight out of MOW to AMS. There is parity principle to be maintained.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:40 am

Quoting MOW (Reply 35):
MOW is now served exclusively by 737s. Whatever the demand, KL cannot add flights to MOW because at this point SU has only one daily flight out of MOW to AMS. There is parity principle to be maintained.

Perhaps we'll see a codeshare between KL & SU to MOW, when SU enters SkyTeam.
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:07 am

Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 36):

Perhaps we'll see a codeshare between KL & SU to MOW, when SU enters SkyTeam.

I assume you mean SVO? Or DME?

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:07 pm

Quoting A388 (Reply 37):
I assume you mean SVO? Or DME?

Yes Roger I meant SVO. MOW is the general code used for all Moscow airports like NYC for EWR, JFK and LGA.

BTW how is CUR airport coming along. Any pics to show us? I am curious of my old working place!

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:34 pm

Ha, ha, ha, GlobeTrekker wearing his smarty pants?  Smile
Yes, KLM serves only SVO!

Hjulicher.... At one point KLM was going to reinstate the later Moscow flight, but never know what happened. I did hear something about adding flights to KBP-Kiev Borispol. Guess KBP is doing better than SVO.
 
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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:57 pm

Quoting GlobeTrekker (Reply 38):

BTW how is CUR airport coming along. Any pics to show us? I am curious of my old working place!

Saludos!

Hey GlobeTrekker, how are you doing? I haven't been to the airport in a long time, than my camera broke so I didn't want to go to the airport just to see aircraft arrive and depart without taking pictures. That would be over-kill for an aircraft spotter like us here. As I've posted in this forum already, the jetways have arrived and been brought to the airport already two weeks ago. I don't know if they are fully installed already, but we have three jetways now with room for a fourth jetway on the east side of the new terminal building.

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:56 pm

Quoting AA B777-200 (Reply 39):
Ha, ha, ha, GlobeTrekker wearing his smarty pants?
Yes, KLM serves only SVO!

Hjulicher.... At one point KLM was going to reinstate the later Moscow flight, but never know what happened. I did hear something about adding flights to KBP-Kiev Borispol. Guess KBP is doing better than SVO.

Yes Robin, I was wearing my smarty pants   Anyway KPB is going to 11 times a week from 7. What kind of pax are travelling to/from KPB anyway? Connecting or O&D? I remember checking-in onward pax ex AUA and ex CUR to KPB and many were 'business' men. The 'business' however was debatable and not for this topic.

Quoting A388 (Reply 40):
don't know if they are fully installed already, but we have three jetways now with room for a fourth jetway on the east side of the new terminal building.

Ok thanks Roger. Hope you get your camera fixed soon. We want the first shots of the aircraft using the jetway!   An era is lost with the arrivals of the jetway, though. You can no longer waive hello or goodbye to family/friends from the balcony when deplaning or boarding. It is something I always liked about Hato, after Beatrix started using jetways.



A pity really.

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RE: KLM Summer Schedule

Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:37 am

We will indeed lose the balcony. I always was dreaming about our airport getting jetways just like most bigger airports and this is finally becoming a reality, so I welcome those jetways Big grin

As for photography of aircraft parked at our new jetways, this is only possible when you're in the Air Traffic Control tower which is difficult. Once the new terminal is in use I will try to see if I can get in the ATC for photography. I know some people on the airport so hopefully it will work in my favour as airport security is very strict at our airport  Sad

I will keep you posted on this in the aviation photography forum, because if I post it here it will probably be moved to the aviation photography forum. Or just search my photos by my name or just look up all CUR in the database. I am planning on buying a new camera end next March and get my broken camera fixed at the same time.

Roger