airbusA346
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Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:41 am

Just a quick question.

If you look at the top of the day photo at the moment.

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Which is a KLM Asia Boeing 747-400M - PH-BFC.

Why is this aircraft being guarded by two police cars?

Erwin says that there are two sitting near the aircraft. One can be seen by the wingtip.

Erwins comment:
This 747 was guarded by 2 police vehicles, one is visible on the ramp near the wingtip. Good example of the use of 2 airbridges like you see often here at Amsterdam.

And last thing. Nice photo Erwin  bigthumbsup 

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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:42 am

I would say it has to do with the cargo that is being loaded.
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:44 am

Could possibly be carrying precious cargo which could be a target for thieves...

I'm sure somebody will know a proper answer.
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:46 am

Could they be Dutch customs officers?

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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:51 am

Quoting Daleaholic (Reply 2):
Could possibly be carrying precious cargo which could be a target for thieves...

Well cargo has been stolen from KLM at AMS before.

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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:53 am

What you see is normal. Those guys are all over the place every time we are there.
 
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:07 am

Many different reasons can justify a police car next to an aircraft :

- Values in the Cargo (Art paintings, Gold, Money, etc ...)
- Prisonners being transferred on board
- Illigal "Alien" flown back to their country
- Destination of the Aircraft (TLV)
- Country of origin of the Airline (El AL, US airlines after 9/11 ...)
Some aircraft are even followed for the same reasons by a Police car during taxiing until their take off.


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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:48 am

Quoting FlySSC (Reply 6):
- Values in the Cargo (Art paintings, Gold, Money, etc ...)
- Prisonners being transferred on board
- Illigal "Alien" flown back to their country
- Destination of the Aircraft (TLV)
- Country of origin of the Airline (El AL, US airlines after 9/11 ...)

Don't forget:

-Drugs/Narcostics on board or suspected to be
-Some type of accident where the plane is part of a criminal investigation
-If the arriving flight had a problem with one or a few pax

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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:07 am

When British Airways used to fly to SAN, it had to be escorted by police cars.

Of course, a 777 is too wide to use the taxiway wouth of the runway, so the runway is actually closed to traffic, and plane is escorted on to the runway itself. Proceeding to the end of runway 27, it makes a U-turn, revs its engines while holding its brakes - then lets go to use every inch of the short runway. If viewed from the end of the runway, at Lytton Street & Rosecrans Ave., one gets the feeling the plane might not make it. But it always does.

Sad that it is gone - it is missed SO terribly here.

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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:40 pm

Quoting PanAm747 (Reply 8):
If viewed from the end of the runway, at Lytton Street & Rosecrans Ave., one gets the feeling the plane might not make it. But it always does.

Good thing they were'nt using an A340 otherwise it wouldn't stop at the end of the runway while landing  duck 
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:57 pm

Quoting AirbusA346 (Thread starter):
Why is this aircraft being guarded by two police cars?

To keep fanatic a-nutters from stowing away.
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:43 pm

Quoting Hawk44 (Reply 3):
Could they be Dutch customs officers?

Nope, customs are driving different cars in a different (paint)scheme...

These guys are from the military-police (marechaussee)...could have something to do with illegals/deportees, or, indeed, precious cargo...
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:10 pm

Possibly destined or arriving from JNB with diamond cargo?
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:31 pm

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 9):

Good thing they were'nt using an A340 otherwise it wouldn't stop at the end of the runway while landing

You misspelt 737G  Smile
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:52 pm

At Heathrow often when El Al flights come in there are full security attendance. A few weeks back there were numerous police, and police dogs, and armed police waiting the arrival of flights from Israel. Believe they are considered the highest threat in terms of terrorist attacks.
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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:16 am

I thought there was a picture of TZ in SNN being guarded. I could not find any on here though.

There were constant guards when doing charters through SNN. The plane was taxied to the gate, there were armed guards that closed a fence around the aircraft.

It was pretty cool having that much protection, though a bit disconcerting. Does that make sense?

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RE: Why Are The Police Guarding This Aircraft At AMS?

Mon Feb 27, 2006 2:14 am

I Remember being in Tucson during 2004 and can remember a Miami Air 737 being at the airport parked on its own on the GA ramp with what looked like secret service personnel guarding the aircraft and a load of mean looking men dressed in black with machine guns and a few hummers driving around. A few sniffer dogs were nearby as well. I was going to take a picture but thought otherwise.
I thought at the time it might have been to do with the presidential election or something military wise to do with the war in Iraq.
Was anybody else there who witnessed this or is this a common thing at Tucson. I can't remember if it was April/May or September/October 2004.
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