SafetyDude
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Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:07 am

Hi all,
I saw this photo of Ethiad's 77W crew rest:

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Doesn't this crew rest seem much longer (and bigger) than others? And, what are those mini windows for by the curtain?

Also, in regards to Boeing's 777-200LR crew rest

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What are the doors on the left and right side? The right one looks like a mini closet. The left side looks like it could be some sort of transport to the main cabin. Lastly, what are all the panels and such at the back of the bunks and above them?

Thanks for your help.

-Will
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jrosa
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:16 am

Quoting SafetyDude (Thread starter):
what are those mini windows for by the curtain?

Those mini windows are not mini windows, those are mirors! for the crew to make up before returning to duty.
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:25 am

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 1):
Those mini windows are not mini windows, those are mirors! for the crew to make up before returning to duty.

Then what does that mini-door open to?

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SNATH
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting SafetyDude (Thread starter):

Doesn't this crew rest seem much longer (and bigger) than others?

The B777s have two (separate I think) crew rest areas. One is closer to the cockpit for the pilots and is smaller. The other one is further back for the F/As and is larger. The picture depicts the latter, most of the other pictures I've seen depict the former. So, the one in the picture seems longer because.... it is!

Look at here at the section titled Boeing 777 Solutions

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777family/pf/pf_osu.html

Tony

PS The article pointed to by the link above also indicates that the B773ER has the capability for more extensive F/A crew rest compared to the B772ER/B772LR. This might be another reason why it looks longer... because it is!

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jrosa
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:59 am

Which door in which photo? There is not a door in this photo.


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You can clearly see the square mirror beside the curtain.
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:02 am

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 4):
Which door in which photo? There is not a door in this photo.

There is, its right at the back of the corridor, just visible  Smile
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:32 am

I see it, far, far, far away back in the aisle...  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:14 am

Quoting Jrosa (Reply 4):
Which door in which photo? There is not a door in this photo.

The door in the 772LR pics.

-Will
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TG990
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:55 am

I didn't even know there was that much space above the passenger cabins!
Where exactly is this?
Looks like a double decker, that's a huge amount of (standing) space in the area above the pax cabin.
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:09 am

Just imagine the action those crew "rest" areas will see over their years of service.
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:18 am

Quoting TG990 (Reply 8):
I didn't even know there was that much space above the passenger cabins!

In addition to the 6 bunks, the 777 crewrests made by Flight Structures instead of Boeing also have two seats and IFE.

Tod
 
SNATH
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:23 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 10):
In addition to the 6 bunks, the 777 crewrests made by Flight Structures instead of Boeing also have two seats and IFE.

I thought that it was only the pilot crew rest area that had seats?

Tony
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FlyEmirates
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:26 am

I wonder why they have ordered it? it appears the routes it will be operating dont need it AUH-BKK etc (Does that mean crew will be able to have a lie down on these mid range flights?) i fly on EK 77Ws for 9 hours and we have no rest area. Maybe its in preparation of USA flights etc. A 77W of EK will in september time be fitted with crew rest as the type gets allocated to one of the JFK flights.

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SNATH
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:30 am

Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 12):
I wonder why they have ordered it?

You mean the overhead crew rest area, right?

Quoting FlyEmirates (Reply 12):
it appears the routes it will be operating dont need it AUH-BKK etc

I assume initially... but having the overhead crew rest area gives them the possibility to be able to also use the B773ERs for longer routes in the future. I don't think it's something that you can quickly and put back on when required...

Tony
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MidnightMike
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:01 am

Quoting SafetyDude (Thread starter):
What are the doors on the left and right side? The right one looks like a mini closet. The left side looks like it could be some sort of transport to the main cabin. Lastly, what are all the panels and such at the back of the bunks and above them?

Thanks for your help.

-Will

Will, if you want, I can mail you a DVD Rom on the 777-200LR crew rest area for both the pilots & the Flight Attendants.....
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twolz2rn
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:13 am

do most airlines choose to put in the crew rests?
 
SNATH
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Tue Feb 28, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting TwoLz2Rn (Reply 15):
do most airlines choose to put in the crew rests?

I believe all the 200LR and 300ER orders included this option. It's basically a no-brainer.

Tony
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Tod
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:36 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 11):
I thought that it was only the pilot crew rest area that had seats?

That is correct on the OEM crewrests.

BA, AZ, LY, KU and NG have door 3 crewrests from Flight Structures and they all have two seats.

Quoting SNATH (Reply 13):
I don't think it's something that you can quickly and put back on when required...

Of course you can do anything if you want to spend enough money, but as a practical matter restoring the aircraft to a non-crewrest configuration would be expensive and require weeks of down time.

Tod
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:52 am

That would be a great benefit for an airline to offer a service of this kind to its passengers. Of course there would be a special fare for it but lets say a pax would buy his/her seat like everybody else and book in advance the rental of a private room and use it as he/she wishes. I think this is even more comfortable as the lie flat beds in first.
 
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:46 am

Hey there,

we have crew rest bunks on about half of our 777 aircraft at BA. These 777 serve further destinations.

there are flight crew bunks on the main deck at the rear of First Class.

there are also 8 x cabin crew bunks, which are overhead. the access to these are via a set of steep stairs at doors 3, in the area where the toilets are on the main deck.

if you travel on a BA 777, have a close look around doors 3. opposite the toilet on the right hand side there is a small door. thats where we access the stairs.

have a look up to the cabin ceiling in the same area. you will notice that there are no centre bins above the last row at doors 3 and the first bulkhead rows. instead, the ceiling is depressed there....those are where the actual bunks lie above your head!
 
Tod
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:42 am

Hi Monkeyboi,

BA was the first to get the Flight Structures 777 Door 3 crew rest.
Do they still like it?

Tod
 
monkeyboi
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:33 am

well i doubt the company likes it because it must cost extra. Lol

I like the crew rest, very 'cosy' and quieter than the jumbo overhead rest. It is fairly small up their with 8 bunks and 2 rest seats. Not much room to get changed etc. And every time you emerge out of there squinty eyed after waking up from a couple hours sleep you can be guaranteed there will be loads of people milling around the loos looking at you like you have just landed from Mars.

I think the nicest and most comfy is the crew rest on the few 747-400 Lites we have which is different to the crew rest on the regular 747-400's. Can drop off to sleep in a flash up there!
 
Tod
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 5:13 am

Quoting Monkeyboi (Reply 21):
I think the nicest and most comfy is the crew rest on the few 747-400 Lites we have which is different to the crew rest on the regular 747-400's.

Is that the large Door 5 one with the loo in the aft left corner?

Tod
 
monkeyboi
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:37 am

Thats the one tod!

Really big up there and a crew loo as well! hoorah!
 
Tod
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:12 am

Quoting Monkeyboi (Reply 23):
a crew loo as well! hoorah!

Glad you like the loo.
I designed the plumbing after Boeing told BA that it couldn't be done.

Tod
 
SNATH
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RE: Crew Rest Questions

Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:34 am

Quoting Tod (Reply 17):
That is correct on the OEM crewrests.

BA, AZ, LY, KU and NG have door 3 crewrests from Flight Structures and they all have two seats.

Tod, I was actually not aware that there were different types. Thank you for the clarification!!!

Tony
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