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Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:01 pm

Hi
Im interested to know which airports are fairly much guaranteed a roller coaster ride in due to the environment they are surrounded by and you will also know when you fly to this airport you will have a fun ride it.
Some of the airports I have flown and seems to be a guaranteed roller coaster are:
Atlanta - This was a Fun ride in , flown in 4 times now and every time we went up and down and it was great.

Athens (Greece)- OLD AIRPORT - This was always a windy approach , must admit not fun but always known to be a windy approach as the landing runway was 33 and there was always a crosswind from the hills and the sea.

Tenerife - This is always a windy approach due to the proximity to the sea.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:20 pm

PLZ can be hectic, Port Elizabeth is known as the windy city and the approach off the sea can be a wild ride. I have also had some bumpy landings at CPT but not as frequently as PLZ.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:22 pm

I have always found DFW to be pretty bumpy.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:25 pm

How about Funchal, Madeira (Santa Cruz) Portugal.











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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:02 pm

Don't forget JNU!


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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:06 pm

Depending on the approach GIB can be a bitch of an approach, due to the position of the Rock, and the narrowness of the straight of Gibraltar.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:10 pm

LPA always seems quite windy. There are lots of wind generators around the airport so it must be a particularly windy location.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:17 pm

Hey

Watched Discovery some days ago and it was a show about winds... they mentioned Hong Kong new airport and said that it was very windy there because of the mountain right beside the airport...

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:18 pm

I was told by a mate of mine who flies for ANZ that one of their airports was an absolute bitch - cant remember if it was Christchurch or Wellington - but he was adamant that it was the worst he'd ever flown or heard of.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:20 pm

Quoting WINGS (Reply 3):
How about Funchal, Madeira (Santa Cruz) Portugal.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:24 pm

I've been told that LIS is quite tricky for pilots to get the aircraft correctly aligned to the runway, both in landing and take-off.
Worth mentioning ZRH with their constant strong cross wind.
I'm no expert though.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:28 pm

Quoting Andz (Reply 1):
PLZ can be hectic

I second Port Elizabeth (PLZ). GRJ and ZQN also comes to mind.


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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:29 pm

I find CWL quite bad. Once you get a bad wind off the Bristol Channel it rocks you all over the place.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:30 pm

Quoting JMJAirways (Reply 7):
Watched Discovery some days ago and it was a show about winds... they mentioned Hong Kong new airport and said that it was very windy there because of the mountain right beside the airport...

The problem HKG has is windshear. This is only a problem when the winds come from a southerly direction. The mountains south of the airport creates a mass turbluence effect for the winds coming from the south. As planes approach HKG either from the West or the East, they will get a continuous flow of southerly winds at first. But then when they cross the north side of the hills, the air can become a lot more turbulent. Think of it as putting a finger (or fingers) in a stream of flowing water, you can see how currents divert around the your finger(s). Think of them as wind and imagine how they can cause a loss of lifts to aircrafts.

HKG has a highly sophisticated windshear detector placed about 20 miles northeast of the airport. It feeds the data to the ATC who will in turn warn traffic of the existence of windshear in the area.

Approaches can also get bumpy when there are typhoons and thunderstorms in the area (usually occurs in the summer months)

However, I have always experienced smooth rides into HKG.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:30 pm

Wellington New Zealand. Everytime.

Guaranteed roller-coaster on most days.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:40 pm

Almost all of my flights to OGG were bumpy and I know the crosswind the pilots have to deal with on landing is a bitch.


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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:44 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
I was told by a mate of mine who flies for ANZ that one of their airports was an absolute bitch - cant remember if it was Christchurch or Wellington - but he was adamant that it was the worst he'd ever flown or heard of.

Wellington has the rep for some pretty bumpy takeoffs and landings.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:48 pm

Old ATH was never really bumpy. CFU on the other hand...

Quoting V2fix (Reply 14):
Wellington New Zealand. Everytime.

Guaranteed roller-coaster on most days.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:51 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 8):
cant remember if it was Christchurch or Wellington

I have a video clip of some approaches at Wellington and they are quite wild.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:57 pm

If I'm not mistaken KEF has a reputation for being pretty windy too.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:31 pm

Colorado Springs (COS) has always been a turbulent approach and landing whether it comes from the winter storms moving down the Front Range of the Rockies, the massive temperature inversions at higher altitudes during hot summer months, the violent thunderstorms that form over the mountains to the West and move across the Plains, or the chinook winds that whip across the mountaintops and drop rapidly and nearly straight down from the top of 14,000 foot Pike's Peak to the city 8,000 feet below. The 20 minute flight between COS and Denver can best be described as an "E Ticket" roller coaster ride.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:43 pm

Never had a problem in LIS.

Genoa and HKG are on my list.TC
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:48 pm

Florence especially with easterly winds. A lot windshears and downdrafts from the surrounding mountains. A windshear during climb out from rwy 05 is a very critical thing in FLR.

Another critical is LCY because of all the buildings in the short final for both runways you oven encounter heavy gusts and possible windshears during short final. Remember LCY runway is only 1300m.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:58 pm

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:06 am

In LUG there's pretty strong turbulence when the wind is blowing from the north (the airport is in a valley and there are mountains all around).


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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:08 am

The old Denver airport used to be pretty bad too if I remember due to it's close proximinty to the Rocky Mts. front range (much like with COS mentioned above).
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:26 am

I don't know where it fits in the world scheme of things, but the approach to MED is always bumpy thanks to the Hijaz mountain chain.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:32 am

Don't forget good old Albuquerque in New Mexico, USA. The approach is over an enormous plain of lava fields. From April on, the updrafts caused by the sun heating the plain causes a wild ride everytime into the airport. Great fun if you've secured your dentures properly before flight
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:35 am

Reno with the winds coming off the hills can be extremely turbulent.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:24 am

CUZ, Perú - It's actually kind of closed between 1400h and 0600h due to strongwinds.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:47 am

I agree with Pualani, OGG in Maui. There is a reason that the beach just off the airport is a great windsurf spot. The winds are strong from entering the isthmus at Maalaea on the south side all the way to the airport at Kahului on the north shore.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:50 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 25):
The old Denver airport used to be pretty bad too if I remember due to it's close proximinty to the Rocky Mts. front range (much like with COS mentioned above).

Denver Stapleton had a big windshear problem which is one of the reasons they wanted to move to a new airport further away. The new DEN can still have some bumpy approaches (thanks to the mountains and crazy weather). I think they were successful in finding an area where there is less dangerous windshear compared to Stapleton.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:51 am

MIA is pretty bad if you're coming in over the sea in the afternoon (Landing on 28 R/L). Once youre a bit more inland its less bumpy though.

DCA is a funky approach if youre landing RWY 19, and it ususally is windy when you are landing in that direction.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:21 am

Hmflyer- I recently had a pilot tell me that the situation with Reno is that the winds coming over the mountains create a situation much like waves crashing- hence the turbulence.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:48 am

Quoting Hmflyer (Reply 28):
Reno with the winds coming off the hills can be extremely turbulent.

That was one of my wildest rides in memory on a full size jet. The 737 was bumping and shaking like crazy and I was getting a bit concerned, until I looked over and saw the FA in her jumpseat, calmly cleaning her nails!
Put me at ease right away, lol

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:23 am

What about MAD? Although I've flown in there once it was extremely bumpy so bumpy people were praying on decent and approach. Obviously the mountains and plateaus (Barajas means cards for those who don't know spanish) around it contribute to the winds.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:30 am

Wellington is definately the best, espicially when your in a trainer and have just flown cross-country and your fuel is low and you need to land in 40 knot winds (just above the reccomended wind speed). That was very intresting but if you want an intresting ride to wellington fly with Origin Pacific on one of there jetstreams.

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:33 am

the worst turbulance is absolutely in the aluetian islands, airports like cold bay and dutch harbor.

i've heard pilots of peninsula airways claim that they have to abort their landings almost half of the time due to sudden wind gusts.

the wind gusts up to 50 miles per hour on a "calm" day.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:45 am

Quoting AA777 (Reply 32):
MIA is pretty bad if you're coming in over the sea in the afternoon (Landing on 28 R/L). Once youre a bit more inland its less bumpy though.

In times of severe drought, the approaches over the glades can be very rough as well.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:02 am

ONT during Santa Ana's. The rotor coming off the top of the mountains can (and in my case, did) do some very "undesirable" things.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:04 am

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:05 am

I find SJO a very bumpy landing. I´ve been in a couple of CM flights in which people hav vomited...

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:10 am

I have flown into a bunch of airports mentioned above and my list is--

1. Wellington, NZ---only time I have ever been scared in an airplane.
2. Denver--once you hit the wall of the Rockies on takeoff or landing it can be pretty bad.
3. Reno--Most of the time it isn't too bad but on windy or stormy days it can be like Wellington.
4. Orange County--departure is always a blast but landing during really windy days is like an E ticket ride at Disneyland.
5. Las Vegas--similar to Orange County and Reno.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:12 am

Kaitak.... (yeeah, yeah, yeah, it's no more but how can you leave Kaitak out when talking about bumpy, crapy landings?)
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:19 am

Yup, Windy Welly.
I think it's the mix of the funneling winds through the cooks and the water tempreture.
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:48 am

BDL can be pretty bad at times, pretty hilly in that part of CT, and winds coming off Metacomet Ridge can be blustery. Coming in over Litchfield County can be hair raising. I remember reading an account from an AA 727 pilot in one of the big magazines (which ever has the stories from the 60s and 70s) saying that BDL was always a fun airport to land at.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:48 am

Quoting MGA (Reply 41):
I find SJO a very bumpy landing. I�ve been in a couple of CM flights in which people hav vomited...

totally agree with you. Sjo is in the middle of a valley so always great winds! Everytime I'm on a flight to SJO there is sudden turbulence and that's when i tell myself "We are arriving".

This time was the first time I didn't feel that much turbulence...was it because I was on an A340 and it wasn't felt so much ? Don't think so, its much likely because was a very beautiful day without winds...

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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:53 am

I'm surprised nobody mentioned SLC. Some of the approaches into there are worth E-tickets at Disneyland. During the summer, there are thermals coming off the ground as well as the aircraft passing back and forth over land and water on southbound approaches makes for a very bumpy ride. I have been on a couple of flights where the pilot had to do a go-around because of the turbulence.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:55 am

Rijeka - RJK is the worst approach I have ever had as a passenger. This is because of the bura winds, which are a strong crosswind.
 
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RE: Worst Airport App Due To Turbulance And Wind

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:58 am

I wonder if anyone has flown into Kunsai-Osaka, that airport that was built on a man-made island in the middle of the bay near Kobe. I wonder what flying into that is like... There's talk of adding a second runway, but people are saying that it's not going to happen. What if they add a sedond parallel runway...
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