isitsafenow
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Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:52 am

Starting May 1st, you can get Midwest Airline miles by flying Northwest. The milage agreement between Midwest and American Airlines terminates.
source: Midwest Airlines website
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:36 am

WHAT?!?!?!!?
That makes no sense.
AA isn't the one trying to compete with YX. Through the years, it's been NW that comes in once in a while and tries to push YX under... IF you believe what these threads say.
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:49 am

They used to have a FF program, and YX pulled out of it on 2003.



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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:24 am

Americans agreement is not recipricol, the NW agreement will be. Talks have been going on since before the BK filing.
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:14 am

So the million dollar question is - will you be able to accrue WorldPerks mileage on YX?

If this is the case I think I'll be on YX more often.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:28 am

Quoting Checkraiser (Reply 4):
will you be able to accrue WorldPerks mileage on YX?

Yes, as of 5/1/06.

http://www.nwa.com/freqfly/earn/airfl.shtml#midwest

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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:32 am

By the way, here is the article from the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel about it:

Rivals reunite in miles program
Midwest, Northwest to resume reciprocal frequent flier deal
By TOM DAYKIN
tdaykin@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Mar. 1, 2006

Midwest Airlines Inc. and Northwest Airlines Corp. will re-establish an alliance between their frequent flier programs, allowing members to accumulate and redeem miles on each other's airline, a Midwest Airlines source said Wednesday.

The new arrangement will begin May 1. It will replace the current frequent flier alliance between Oak Creek-based Midwest Airlines and American Airlines, which expires April 30.

The new arrangement between Midwest Airlines and Northwest Airlines will be fully reciprocal. It will allow members of either the Midwest Miles program or Northwest's WorldPerks program to accumulate miles through either airline, and then redeem those miles for tickets on either airline, said the source, who asked not to be identified because the official announcement is still pending.

The new arrangement will include KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, which is already part of WorldPerks, as well as Northwest Airlink and Midwest Connect, regional carriers operated by Northwest Airlines and Midwest Airlines. However, miles accumulated through Midwest Miles and WorldPerks cannot be combined in order to receive a free ticket.

Midwest Airlines and Northwest Airlines compete heavily, particularly on flights departing from Milwaukee's Mitchell International Airport, where they are the busiest and second-busiest carriers.

However, it's not unusual for competing airlines to have frequent flier alliances.

Midwest Airlines and Northwest Airlines last had such an arrangement from 1992 to 2003. That program ended when Midwest Airlines entered into its current agreement with American Airlines.

The American Airlines alliance, however, was not a reciprocal arrangement.

Word of the pending announcement comes one day after Northwest, which is reorganizing its finances under Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection, reported a $1.3 billion fourth-quarter loss - bringing its 2005 losses to $2.6 billion.

Midwest lost $64.9 million in 2005.

Northwest Airlines last year trimmed unprofitable flights throughout the country as part of its Chapter 11 reorganization. At Mitchell, Northwest Airlines cut flights to several cities.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:34 am

Outstanding! If price is roughly the same you'd be foolish not to fly YX's Signature service over NW on any competing segments.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:42 am

Here's my Q...if you fly Midwest and get NW miles, do the miles ALSO go toward Elite or JUST regular miles? I understand if you fly CO and accrue NW miles the miles and segment go toward Elite. If you fly DL and accrue NW miles they DO NOT go toward Elite and the segments DO NOT count.

So..whats the take with flying Midwest and accumulating NW miles?
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 8:50 am

I'm excited for this one! If only PHX-MKE was signature service... but even saver service has great meal options. If the prices are ever close, it will be worth it for the extra FF miles earned through an MKE transfer.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:07 am

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 9):
MKE transfer.

Another good point. While I'm sure everyone won't agree with me, I'd much rather transfer at MKE than MSP. The hike from the commuter gates at MSP is insane. Not so bad now that the tram is there, but that used to be quite a haul.

The fact the Gen. Mitchell has a smoking lounge is also a bonus for those of us pax that need a fix between flights.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:36 pm

Well, my final destination (or originating airport) would be MSP, so if I flew YX, I'd sacrifice a non-stop flight in favor of more miles - although I'd fly out of the Humphrey terminal at MSP, which is a nice new terminal, although it could use some more food locations IMO.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 1:30 pm

Quoting AlexPorter (Reply 11):
the Humphrey terminal at MSP, which is a nice new terminal, although it could use some more food locations IMO.

Not to mention a good way to get from the light rail to the terminal.
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:04 pm

This is basically NW's way of conceding MKE to YX because let's face it - who would want to fly on crummy old -9's when you could have brand new 717's and chocolate chip cookie?!
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:00 am

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 13):
- who would want to fly on crummy old -9's

Me....the DC 9 will be phased out soon. The 717's should be around 20-30 years. Give me an oldie any time 'cause they won't be around much longer.
I miss the old stuff most of you guys haven't seen let alone flew on.
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:10 am

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 13):
This is basically NW's way of conceding MKE to YX because let's face it - who would want to fly on crummy old -9's when you could have brand new 717's and chocolate chip cookie?!

For one, most people cant tell the difference inside between an NW DC-9 and a 717. Secondly, didn't I hear that Midwest no longer serves the chocolate chip cookies?
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:15 am

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):
Secondly, didn't I hear that Midwest no longer serves the chocolate chip cookies?

Cookies are served on all flights departing after 1030a. YX will never get rid of the cookies.
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:43 am

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):

For one, most people cant tell the difference inside between an NW DC-9 and a 717.

They can tell the difference between 2x2 and 2x3.
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:38 pm

So is this an "if-you-can't-beat-'em-join-'em" signal from NW regarding their MKE service? It is really awesome for us pax who fly them both often. Those are the top 2 airlines I fly, and the same can be said for lots of people in my part of the country.

In response to Burnsie, the cookies are still baked & served onboard. I was on one of the focus groups YX had on what to cut, and people were pretty unanimous that they could cut the (awesome) free meals they used to have as long as they kept the cookies!

Now if only NW would learn a thing or two about baking cookes onboard...

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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:48 pm

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 8):



Here's my Q...if you fly Midwest and get NW miles, do the miles ALSO go toward Elite or JUST regular miles?

No EQMs or EQS' earned, only redeemable miles

Quoting Isitsafenow (Reply 8):
I understand if you fly CO and accrue NW miles the miles and segment go toward Elite. If you fly DL and accrue NW miles they DO NOT go toward Elite and the segments DO NOT count.

DL flights count toward EQMs but not EQS'. CO miles in lower booking classes only count 50% toward EQMs and no EQSs
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:50 pm

Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 15):
For one, most people cant tell the difference inside between an NW DC-9 and a 717. Secondly, didn't I hear that Midwest no longer serves the chocolate chip cookies?

I'm pretty sure even Stevie Wonder can tell the difference between a nice new and comfortable leather seat on YX versus the old cloth seats on NW and besides, when your flight is delayed half an hour because the -9 is broke where as your buddy on the new 717 is off and running, even the dead can figure that one out! NW's domestic fleet is old and ragged at best, even the -buses look older than they are.
 
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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:31 pm

Quoting AirRyan (Reply 20):
I'm pretty sure even Stevie Wonder can tell the difference between a nice new and comfortable leather seat on YX versus the old cloth seats on NW and besides, when your flight is delayed half an hour because the -9 is broke where as your buddy on the new 717 is off and running, even the dead can figure that one out! NW's domestic fleet is old and ragged at best, even the -buses look older than they are.

Got an axe to grind, AirRyan? Planes break, period. No matter how old or new they are. Our 717s break, our MD80s break, and NW's planes break.

Your buddy could just as likely be waiting a half hour because his brand new YX 717 farted on the ramp, while you're off and running on a Classic NW DC-9.

Furthermore...our Saver MD80s have the same cloth seats as those old DC9s. Think Stevie Wonder would tell that difference? Probably not. Most of the interiors on the DC-9s are only a few years old, anyway, since they've been recently restored.

Frankly, I'd love to fly on a -9 just as much as a 717. And as far as Joe Blow Passenger is concerned, he's not going to know the difference in airframe quality between a 717 and a DC-9.

Park a YX717 and a freshly painted NW DC-9-30 next to each other, and the biggest difference they'll notice is the lack of eyebrow windows on the 717...if they even notice that.

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RE: Midwest Miles On NW

Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:33 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):

Thanks for that...much appreciated.
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