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When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:34 pm

Does anyone know when the folks at the new US Airways expects the merger to be fully completed? I know that's a pretty open ended question (who's the judge of what 'completed' means), but when will all the planes be repainted, the routes simplified (cutting out duplicates left over from the two airlines [if there are any]), etc. The websites don't really offer a lot of insight into how all that stuff is going so if anyone has any info I'd be much obliged!

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flyf15
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:36 pm

I'd say the merging of the pilot senority lists will be a major mark as to when the merger is essentially "complete." This will probably take another year or two at least... lots of lawsuits and roadblocks and such before this will be completed.
 
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:37 pm

Legally the merger is complete. Or do you mean the internal workings like schedules, liveries, etc?
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:39 pm

Quoting Indy (Reply 2):
Or do you mean the internal workings like schedules, liveries, etc?

Yes. As I said in the post; paint jobs, routes, website integration, etc. All the little housekeeping stuff.
 
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:49 pm

I've been wondering when the entire HP fleet is scheduled to be repainted. It seems to be happening very rapidly. Every day I see more and more ex-HP aircraft in the new USairways livery at SAN.
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:09 pm

All the former HP planes should be finished being repainted by the end of this year.

As stated above, the main problems facing us now are integrating the seniority lists, and resolving the ramp union issue.
 
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:30 pm

Officially, the FAA considers the airlines to be merged when they are operating under one single operating certificate. Until then, we are two airlines using the same websites, advertising, and paint jobs. Until we have one certificate AWA can't fly USAirways planes or routes, mix pilots or flight attendants, or have their mechanics do major work on the other's planes (and vice versa for US). And according to the transition agreements between the two pilot groups and the airline, the airlines can not go to one certificate until the pilots have a single seniority list and single contract to cover them all. In addition to all this, there has to be a single FAA approved training program, and updated manuals and procedures for all personnell in place before they will grant that single operating certificate - a huge task in itself.

All this should (we hope) be accomplished by spring of 2007.

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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:34 pm

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 5):
All the former HP planes should be finished being repainted by the end of this year.

Does this mean that these awesome liveries will be history?

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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:29 pm

Quoting KaiGywer (Reply 7):
Does this mean that these awesome liveries will be history?

I hope they at least leave 901 and 915 the way they are, and add perhaps a PA state flag to match.
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 11:45 pm

I just want to see a Steeler 757.  bigthumbsup 
 
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:46 am

I believe its been said a few dozen times...the special scheme 757s are going to basic US colors. Of course, who knows, they may have a change of heart.  Smile
 
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:51 am

Why havent the schedules been merged, and the two websites combined?
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RE: When Will HP/US Merger Be 100% Complete?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:58 am

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 11):
Why havent the schedules been merged, and the two websites combined?

Incompatible computer systems. They're working on it.

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