Curious
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757 For LCC?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:23 pm

can a 757 be used and operated in teh same way as other operators are currently using 737 and A320's?

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RE: 757 For LCC?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:29 pm

UK LCC Jet2 have started operating the 757 on flights to TFS.
Delta LCC subsidiary Song has a whole fleet of 757s

Theoretically most aircraft can be operated in the same way, but a larger aircraft means more seats to fill, longer turnaround times, higher operating costs, occasional issues over some smaller airports they may not be able to use (runway too short for example) etc, etc.

You'll find the 757 may have a small niche with certain operators to mainly leisure routes which guarantee good loads all year round - but by and large it is a little too big in other respects for most true LCCs.
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:15 pm

Quoting Curious (Thread starter):
can a 757 be used and operated in teh same way as other operators are currently using 737 and A320's?

Doesn't the LCC based in ATL (I can't think of the name  banghead  Wink operate some 757's?
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:21 pm

Skyservice, airtransat, the defunct Canada3000 and Royal all used 757's
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:31 pm

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 2):
Doesn't the LCC based in ATL

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RE: 757 For LCC?

Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:35 pm

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):


Airtran is the damn name. I needed to think of it.

They operate 717 and 737NG. National Airlines (mk3) operated 757's out of LAS for a few years. Before they shut down they were looking into 737's as the 757 was too big for some of thier markets.

757 would work for LCC's on seat cost basis, but you need to fill those seats and it's a tad too much plane for many markets.

ATA operates 757's as well, and we know thier story.

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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:28 am

America West has 'em too, but now they are part of US Airways.
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:54 am

Quoting MD90fan (Reply 6):
America West has 'em too, but now they are part of US Airways.

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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 2:26 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
occasional issues over some smaller airports they may not be able to use (runway too short for example)

Arn't the 757 able to land at airports where the 737 can't. I though that I have read this a number of times but can't find a source.
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:49 am

Quoting TinkerBelle (Reply 4):
Airtran is the damn name. I needed  coffee  to think of it.

There have been rumors in the past that the airline owned some and were leasing them out. I heard the rumor when I was working there in 1999-2000, and even heard (at that time, which was in late 1999) that the company was about send a group of F/As for 757 training. This also coincided with the rumors at the time that the airline had signed agreements to start service into several western markets from ATL.
 
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:03 am

I believe Hooters Air has 752s as well... They fly 732, 733 and 753 aircraft...
I can't think of which routes they use them (the 752) for tho, besides the ones to Vegas, but from where...
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:18 am

If you put number of seats aside, one of the big advantages of the 757 when compared to the NG is cargo capacity. Most LCC have not embraced cargo as a revenue stream.
Without that extra revenue, makes it harder to put together a good LCC business plan with the 757.

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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:53 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 9):
There have been rumors in the past that the airline owned some and were leasing them out. I heard the rumor when I was working there in 1999-2000, and even heard (at that time, which was in late 1999) that the company was about send a group of F/As for 757 training. This also coincided with the rumors at the time that the airline had signed agreements to start service into several western markets from ATL.

Seems like a look at their annual report would confirm/deny this...
 
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:42 pm

The 757 is still a very expensive aircraft to purchase. CO has been using the 757 on Int'l routes for years and now AA is jumping on the bandwagon. Should DAL make it or atleast not lose their 757's to GECAS, they will probaly use the 757 on JFK to Europe.

I think you will see cargo carriers out bid the LCC for 757's. This is a perfect platform to replace the 727's or DC-8's.
 
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RE: 757 For LCC?

Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:19 pm

Quoting AvConsultant (Reply 13):
Should DAL make it or atleast not lose their 757's to GECAS, they will probaly use the 757 on JFK to Europe.

HA!! Asinine statement of the week.


As I said before, your GECAS thoughts are wrong and you conveniently couldn't prove your claim. And secondly, Delta WON'T use the 757 to Europe, I guarantee it. Why? They aren't ETOPS certified and DL doesn't want to spend the money to get them certified, so it will not be done. Just goes to show what good YOUR consulting will do.



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