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Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:17 am

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Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S14559.html?cat=1

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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:09 am

Courtesy: Star-Tribune

Update As Of 2PM

Pilot Talks Continue; NWA Declines To Impose New Contract

http://www.startribune.com/535/story/280162.html
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:37 am

The Latest..............................

Courtesy: Reuters

Northwest, Pilots Union Negotiate Past Deadline

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/060302/airlines_northwest.html?.v=3

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NWA And Pilots Continue Talks

http://www.kare11.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=119888

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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:05 am

Courtesy: The Associated Press

Northwest, Pilots Keep Talking - 6:52PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060302/airlines_labor.html?.v=11
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:47 am

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 3):
Northwest, Pilots Keep Talking - 6:52PM



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The threat of mutually assured destruction kept Northwest Airlines and its pilots at the bargaining table on Thursday.

Not too suprising. These DL and NW pilot negotiations are more intresting than I like.  crazy 

Why isn't NW going into arbitration?

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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:59 am

What this is boiling down to is the Judge does not want to make the ruling. He is hoping they can get and agreement. If he puts this ruleing off again tomorrow night, then he will never make the ruling. Is up to NWA and if they can they will break the union and impose new work rules and lower wages. And then we will have a strike.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:05 am

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
DTWAGENT

He is holding off because the two sides are close. He doesnt want to upset
the applecart unless it all comes unraveled.
I noticed that Allan Gropper is the SAME judge hearing the Tower Automotive case and he will rule March 13 on the contracts with the UAW in that matter.
Being from the DTW area, you are aware of the Tower Auto Chapter 11.
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:56 pm

At least the good thing is the airlines says the wont impose a contract... If the sides are close, its looking good again for NW.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:08 am

Although the two sides are close to reaching and agreement I dont think that NW will be satified with the outcome either way. If they dont get the cutbacks their dead if they impose the contracts their dead. It seems NW is going to lose no matter the outcome of the ruling or the negotiations. BEST of luck to all those involved in one way or another.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:14 am

Quoting N742AT (Reply 8):
Although the two sides are close to reaching and agreement I dont think that NW will be satified with the outcome either way. If they dont get the cutbacks their dead if they impose the contracts their dead.

So far they will get cutback, both sides know what they can and can not afford, of course management wants a lot more then what they can afford. At the same time the pilots knowing what the airline can afford is not going to try and get a contract that wouldnt allow them to come out of it.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:23 am

N W A ...... A very sick old man in his death throwes, As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:26 am

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 10):
As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

And who might that be?
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:30 am

I understand they want good wages, but if the airline folds, they will have no wages, then they'll really be upset.
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:42 am

Well NWA could start by cutting managements pay. They have yet to do that. They want to cut everyone elses pay, but they will not even think about cutting managements pay.......CO did that to help out with their employees and airline...Also, the employees don't trust anyone in management. Sounds like another UA.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:48 am

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 13):
Well NWA could start by cutting managements pay. They have yet to do that. They want to cut everyone elses pay, but they will not even think about cutting managements pay

Every manager at Northwest already has had his pay cut by 20% and his pension frozen. I suggest you do a little research before writing such false statements.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:51 am

I think, and believe The old man is in reference to NW....and the newborn baby....a new LCC.....just from what I took of the post.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:02 am

As a lawyer, I don't like judges that are afraid to cut off negotiations and rule or set a trial date.

It's to the benefit of both parties to continue talking, but the judge needs to say that at 6pm, he will rule. No ifs, ands or buts.

Granted, the judge may be signing NW's obituary, regardless whether he voids the contract or not, but that's why he's a judge.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:34 am

Quoting DTWAGENT (Reply 5):
What this is boiling down to is the Judge does not want to make the ruling.



Quoting Ckfred (Reply 16):
As a lawyer, I don't like judges that are afraid to cut off negotiations and rule or set a trial date.

It's to the benefit of both parties to continue talking, but the judge needs to say that at 6pm, he will rule. No ifs, ands or buts.

Granted, the judge may be signing NW's obituary, regardless whether he voids the contract or not, but that's why he's a judge.

I totally agree, WTF good is a deadline if it's already been pulled back 2 or 3 times already?

This judge doesn't appear to have the intestinal fortitude to do his job - it's NW who had gotten themselves to this point and not the courts, all that the courts need do now is what the law dictates.
 
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RE: Judge Gives 6 PM. Deadline For NWA, Pilots

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:39 am

Quoting Redneckslim (Reply 10):
As an old man dies, a newborn baby cries!

"lightning crashes, an old mother dies
her intentions fall to the floor
the angel closes her eyes
the confusion that was hers
belongs now, to the baby down the hall"
And all at once the crowd begins to sing: Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same