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Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:11 am

Airtran: LAX to FLL march 28-31 total $350.
Southwest: same for $218.
AA: same for $218
Delta: a surprising $300.

I thought South East was their territory. I even tried LA to Atlanta with same date, it was $325. Airtran doesn't even have service, why so expensive? They don't even let you select your seats online.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:15 am

i guess it depends on the dates.
i was checking flights with them from EWR to LAX for 11-18 march.
The price i got was 254 USD for return trip. I went with CO because they were nonstop service and it was only 12 dollars more.
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:25 am

You just missed out on the lower fare seats. also its a 737 they use so it must have filled up faster, than all those DL 767 to LAX, and WN has more paths you can take from FLL to LAX
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:53 am

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Thread starter):
why so expensive?

Supply and demand.


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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:00 am

Sorry to hear that in all that Air Tran is so expensieve from the West. Well here at the east coast we get usually pretty good fares.
Next week I will on a trip from SAV to DCA for $100 oneway but incl. tax. Even US was much more expensieve in this case.
But I would say in general Air Tran is cheap in all.
But I am also agree, it makes normaly no sense not to be able to pick up a seat at the time of reservation, only if you book the higher fares.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:20 am

Yeah since the only place FL flies out of LAX is ATL and there are only three flights a day they are probably all close to full flight already with a few Y or A fares left. Not normal fares for a flight on FL. Remember its spring break to.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:40 am

Yes they are expensive
For RT travel from IAD to FLL on March 18 (return 19) they want $430!!!!
The same dates but from BWI $513!!!!!!! What the hell????
And the hours are really bad. Leaving from Washington area in the evening, arriving after midnight. Return flight 6am!!!

Jetblue is $483 non-stop flight

TED is $568 non-stop from IAD to FLL

US Airways is $618 non-stop DCA-FLL

For the same dates Delta wants $463 but the time is perfect.

Perfect timing departure/arrival on the 18th and dep/arr on the 19th with Southwest is $380. But I don't like WN so its out of the question  Smile

So, please dont tell me that AirTran is cheap. I'd rather be flying DL or other major for real miles and status then flying AirTran for nothing.

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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:14 am

Yeah I've looked up all kinds of flights on FL, and they're almost always more than anyone. Even WN is expensive for anything but LAX-PHX. Maybe they're all adopting "low-cost" instead of "low-fare."
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:17 am

People don't seem to understand that B6 and FL are not really inexpensive until you get close to the day of travel, because they have lower walk up fares. Unless they are having a sale, B6 and FL are usually more expensive in advance purchase fares than CO or AA, for example.

WN, on the other hand, is usually less expensive across the board, though there are some inversion periods where this isn't true.
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:38 am

Hmmm....and people wonder why airlines are having financially difficulty. $350 from LAX to FLL....during the busiest season with highest demand and you are complaining.

It's a bargain, my friend. Support your local airline (and their employees)...pay a fair fare.
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:00 am

Quoting SAS330 (Reply 4):
Sorry to hear that in all that Air Tran is so expensieve from the West. Well here at the east coast we get usually pretty good fares.

Yeah, from PIT-ATL, it's about $60 one way. I think they're the only airline serving the Atlanta route out of PIT, as FL is getting all the service, causing DL to become less profitable on that route.

It also would depend on whenever you purchase those tickets as well. Whether it be a day or a month in advance, as well as season. Some airlines have cheaper rates on some destinations depending on seasons... These other people posting about that are all making sense. I have my own experience from flying WN... I flew PIT-PHL, and paid $78 round trip last June, then I flew the same route, identical flights over new years for a little bit more, $98. That was probably because air travel over the hollidays is more expensive, as more people are flying, and it could also be due to increasing running costs, especially with the rising oil prices. I'm not sure how long the hedged fuel WN has will last for; I don't know how much they have left before they have to purchase more fuel for the next x amount of years...
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:02 am

You folks may get the good fares on the East Coast. But, here in DTW, FNT they are high. I was checking them out to go to FLL and DL priced 379. AirTran was 403 from both cities. I went with DL. I can't figure it out either. They were to be a LLC. But, I now consider them a reg. airline like DL,AA,UA ect. They are not low here in Michigan.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:11 am

It's amazing people are complaining...

350.00 Roundtrip from LAX to the opposite side of the country at FLL. That's still rediculously cheap.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:50 am

Quoting Bicoastal (Reply 9):
Hmmm....and people wonder why airlines are having financially difficulty. $350 from LAX to FLL....during the busiest season with highest demand and you are complaining.

It's a bargain, my friend. Support your local airline (and their employees)...pay a fair fare.

Who the hell cares about the airline employees? Why would I pay extra so I can support an airline?
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:57 am

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Reply 13):
Who the hell cares about the airline employees? Why would I pay extra so I can support an airline?

I'll select which ever airline I choose to fly with depending on how reasonable the fares are, or should I say how affordable  Wink
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:16 am

Quoting AirWillie6475 (Thread starter):
Airtran: LAX to FLL march 28-31 total $350.
Southwest: same for $218.
AA: same for $218
Delta: a surprising $300.

I just checked kayak.com for your travel dates...And my results where.
LAX-FLL
Los Angeles, CA to Fort Lauderdale, FL
Tue 28 Mar 2006 -- Fri 31 Mar 2006 / round-trip for 1
American Airlines-$219
Delta-$229
Jetblue-$237
Airtran-$298
Song-$301
Alaska-$319
Continental-$324
US Airways-$355
United-$357
Northwest-$398
America West-$417
Frontier-$439

Be aware that LAX-FLL is 2,342 miles. (Transcontinental just about)
This isn't a short flight where you pay $250+ for a less then 300 mile flight!

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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:34 am

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 15):
LAX-FLL
Jetblue-$237

whatever, dude. how much is the taxi fare from LAX to LGB, and is that part of the $237?
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:46 am

It could be their flights are almost booked up and they went to higher fares. If their flights were empty, I am sure they price would have been lower.
it's all supply and demand, the higher the demand, the higher the price.
ever try to book an airline seat for around Thanksgiving or Christmas to
Florida? it's cheaper for the Floridians to fly north during that time.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:50 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 16):
whatever, dude. how much is the taxi fare from LAX to LGB, and is that part of the $237?

Maybe he lives closer to LGB than LAX.

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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:12 pm

The cheapest fare I could find was on AA non-stop from LAX-FLL for $198+tax RT,and that was on Orbitz, not a bad deal. FL is right up there actually with most airlines. It is the airlines that have no one on there planes that are charging the lower fare which will gain them more passengers as a lot of people book travel last minute.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:15 pm

Quoting Lindy (Reply 6):
Yes they are expensive
For RT travel from IAD to FLL on March 18 (return 19) they want $430!!!!
The same dates but from BWI $513!!!!!!! What the hell????
And the hours are really bad. Leaving from Washington area in the evening, arriving after midnight. Return flight 6am!!!

Jetblue is $483 non-stop flight

TED is $568 non-stop from IAD to FLL

US Airways is $618 non-stop DCA-FLL

For the same dates Delta wants $463 but the time is perfect.

The reason for these high air fares is S P R I N G B R E A K in Florida. The cheap seats are already gone.

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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 12:19 pm

Quoting N742AT (Reply 19):
It is the airlines that have no one on there planes that are charging the lower fare which will gain them more passengers as a lot of people book travel last minute.

That sounds right, but I've been checking this LAX-FLL route for quite some time and AA always had a $200 dollar R/T price. I guess it's because they know that they will fill all the seats on the LAX-FLL route.
 
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:51 pm

Quoting Lindy (Reply 6):
Yes they are expensive

I've got a crazy thought here!
Perhaps they are charging that price because that's the price they need to charge in order to make a profit on that route. Isn't that a wild business model for an airline??

I think most of those other airlines you are quoting are all in Chapter 11, or have been numerous times....perhaps because they don't charge enough to cover their costs (among other things).


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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:27 pm

Also LCC stands for "low cost carrier" not "low fare airline". Nothing says they have to pass along the savings to the consumer.....
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:37 pm

Geez. Really letting AirTran have it because they only matched AA's fare?

I guess we know why the industry isn't making money.
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:41 pm

I never did understand the whole "Support your local airline" or "support the legacies" crap. If they want to run themselves into the ground (NW, where art thou?) let them. Whenever im in the US, I would fly what airline I LIKE in my case, it would be JB, CO or US... simply because they, (in my opinion), are the best in the US. Although here at home ive made a promise to myself never to stumble upon a FR flight....  Smile
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RE: Why Is Airtran So Expensive?

Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:15 am

For my upcoming trip to Las Vegas, I chose AirTran because they were cheaper than Delta. At the time I booked, Delta was close to $100 more for a round trip ticket (and some of the possible itenaries involved connecting in SLC). My original FL booking was ATL-DFW-LAS and LAS-DFW-ATL, and the fare (including taxes) was $336.80. Delta wanted well over $400. If I were to try to book an ATL-LAS/LAS-ATL flight (Leaving ATL late afternoon, leaving LAS in the morning) for March 24 and March 26, here's what it would cost me:

AirTran: $544.40 (ATL-LAS & LAS-DFW-ATL)
Delta: $928.60 (Nonstop both ways)

Delta also had some iternaries that were close to $1000, as the only seats left on some of their flights were up in first class.

Some further comparisons:

America West/US Airways: $648 (ATL-PHX-LAS & LAS-PHX-ATL) They have some cheaper fares, but many of them involve evening and redeye flights (some them nonstop), which drops the fare down to $348.
American: $855.20 (ATL-ORD-LAS & LAS-DFW-ATL) They have some fares around $1400.
United: $811.20 (ATL-DEN-LAS & LAS-DEN-ATL) ATL-DEN/DEN-ATL on Mesa, DEN-LAS/LAS-DEN on Ted.
Northwest: $540.20 (ATL-MEM-LAS & LAS-MSP-ATL) The ATL-MEM flight and two of the three MSP-ATL flights are codeshares on DL flights (including an OH and an EV flight). The LAS-MSP flight would have you in First Class, and if you took the NW operated MSP-ATL flight, it too would be in First Class.