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Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:32 am

I am booked on SA7700 and SA7701 (operated by Qantas as QF64 & QF63) during June. I was browsing through their website and couldn't help but notice that QF now has 2 different 2-class configurations on their B744-438's. In the past, QF had 2 different 3-class configurations and only one 2-class configuration on the B744-438.

According to the schedules, SA7700 (QF64) from JNB-SYD will be operated by a 3-class configured aircraft. From SYD-JNB on SA7701 (QF63) a 2-class configured aircraft will be utilized. I am curious about the two different configurations for the 2-class configured aircraft - is this something that is changing? One configuration offers 56 J-class and 366 Y-class seats. The 2nd configuration offers 66 J-class seats and 356 Y-class seats

Could someone shed some light on this issue please? Your input will be much appreciated.


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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:37 am

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...
 
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:48 am

Quoting Andz (Reply 1):
Seatguru only has 2 plans for Qantas:

Yes. But the Qantas website shows 4. http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/seatMap744


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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:07 am

Seatguru is missing a lot of stuff.
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Broocy
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:31 am

The reason is that QF has 2 seat maps is because they were/are in the process of upgrading the fleet to the lie-flat J class product.

There is really no difference in terms of galley and toilet layouts, there is only a difference caused by the new, larger, Skysuite J class seat. This is why the J class has reduced. The only difference for folks in Y class is that those seated in the forward-most cabin have 1 less row, making it a lttle more cosy and private.

Please correct me if this statement is wrong, but I think the entire 744 fleet has been updated now with the new product. You should be flying on the 56/356 layout. QF needs to update its website to remove the old seat maps.

Have a nice flight!
 
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:05 am

Quoting Broocy (Reply 4):
Please correct me if this statement is wrong, but I think the entire 744 fleet has been updated now with the new product. You should be flying on the 56/356 layout. QF needs to update its website to remove the old seat maps.

Did QF end First on 747´s then?
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:30 am

Keesje. F as not been entirely removed from QF. It has F on a number of 744's on routes that can support the demand, eg to LON and LAX/NYC. It has completed the upgrade to the Skysuite on these aircraft.

It removed F from a number of routes, like AKL, BNE to LAX or SYD to FRA. (The JNB route seems to be a bit of a mixed bag.) It reconfigured the 2 class aircraft last.

Sorry if my post was not clear.
 
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:46 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
Seatguru is missing a lot of stuff.

Exactly, the seat maps on the airline websites are better than Seatguru.

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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:37 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 5):
Did QF end First on 747´s then?

No. Read the post.


The seat maps on QF's website also have the registration of the A/C that are in a particular configuration. Not sure if it's current, but here is the breakdown.

66/366
VH-OJH

56/356
VH-OJA
VH-OJB
VH-OJC
VH-OJD
VH-OJE
VH-OJI
VH-OJJ

14/64/265
VH-OEB
VH-OEC
VH-OED

14/50/315
VH-OJF
VH-OJG
VH-OJH
VH-OJK
VH-OJL
VH-OJM
VH-OJN
VH-OJO
VH-OJP
VH-OJQ
VH-OJR
VH-OJS
VH-OJT
VH-OJU
 
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 7:43 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Exactly, the seat maps on the airline websites are better than Seatguru.

I agree . seatexpert.com does however have a Map for BA long haul 767 which is not available on the BA website.

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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:05 am

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 8):
The seat maps on QF's website also have the registration of the A/C that are in a particular configuration. Not sure if it's current, but here is the breakdown.

66/366
VH-OJH

I think you will find that [O]h [J]esus [H]elp, the Bangkok golf course visitor, has been converted to a 3 class, Kangaroo route config [14F, 50J, 315Y].

Quoting ASAFA (Reply 8):
14/64/265
VH-OEB
VH-OEC
VH-OED

Also, I believe the 744ERs [OEE to OEJ]are Pacific config.

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 7):
Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
Seatguru is missing a lot of stuff.

Exactly, the seat maps on the airline websites are better than Seatguru.

Actually the QF site shows configs with the old Dreamtime J seats. Seatguru is more accurate in this case, showing only Skybed seats, and makes note of the Pacific config.

Cheers
 
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:34 pm

ALL our aircrafts are now reconfigured!

As stated... OJH is now three class along with OJF.

OJA, OJB, OJC, OJD, OJE, OJI, OJJ are two class...

ERs are pacific config...

747-300 are still dreamtime seats!

Enjoy your flight with us...

PS: JNB is a mixed bag on aircraft configs... their could be a charter on around that time thus three class needed elsewhere!
 
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:09 pm

Thanks for all the replies! I booked seat 18J on the outbound flight from JNB and 3B on the outbound from SYD. Are those good seats or are there better J-class seats out there. I got 11B from SYD-JNB in November 2005 and that was a marvelous seat - unfortunately it seems as if 11B has already been snatched this time around.  Smile


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SA7700
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RE: Qantas B744-438 Configurations

Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:27 pm

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 12):
Enjoy your flight with us...

PS: JNB is a mixed bag on aircraft configs... their could be a charter on around that time thus three class needed elsewhere!

I just hope the flight will still be on QF. Even the blasted supervisors in the SA reservations call centre don't know whether the codeshare between QF and SA on the JNB-SYD route will remain in place.

According to a QF FF newsletter I received, SA Voyager members will no longer be able to accrue mileage on QF-numbered flights. The same applies to QF FF members on SA-numbered flights.

The newsletter did mention that the QF/SA codeshare on the JNB-PER route would remain in place, however made no mention of JNB-SYD.


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