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Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:21 am

What are the oldest planes out there which feature PTVs?
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:25 am

Quoting Vasu (Thread starter):
What are the oldest planes out there which feature PTVs?

EK had them on their A310's and A300's, not sure if any airline installed them on B742's?
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:32 am

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
not sure if any airline installed them on B742's?

VS did... they were the size of postage stamps!
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:41 am

I think it was AA that had PTVs installed (in J) onboard their 707s in the sixties.
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:38 am

Legend put them on their DC-9s. I believe Legend was the first to offer them throughout the entire aircraft.
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:00 am

Sorry, IFE, rather than PTVs, was installed onboard 707s of AA in the 60s- the seventies witnessed the introduction of personal monitors in J, located inbetween each J class seat. Check this out for more info http://www.waea.org/Press/History.pdf
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:50 am

very few remember, but America West back in the early 90's started PTV's on their a/c, I believe they signed contract with FlightLink, or some name like that. My brother's ad company out of L.A got the contract to promote the new system on HP flights, so I was paid to fly HP five days a week, and towards the end of every flight, we would get up and use the PA system to demo the new system to pax. The system had everything from games to stock quotes to mail to a page that would allow a pax to look up future flights and book them. Upon descent, the screen would show the latest flight info for CMH/LAS/PHX hubs depending upon which one you were arriving to, idea was that HP thought it could cut down on transit time for pax connecting through their hubs, a great idea as long as no last minute gate changes occurred. After about a year, the company went belly up, and HP was left with the scraps of the company, basically, a few of their planes might even still have the 4 inch screens in the back of some of their seats now. There were pictures of some of these on an aviation site, I just did a quick check and couldn't find them, somebody might be able to though
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:30 am

I'm pretty sure it was NW that started out using LCD PTVs in the first class cabins in 1990-1991 in their 742s. Anyone confirm this?
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:44 am

Quoting Flyboy7974 (Reply 6):
There were pictures of some of these on an aviation site, I just did a quick check and couldn't find them, somebody might be able to though

I'm guessing this is the system you're talking about. Sounds like it was a good concept.


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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 9:54 am

American had PTVs on their A300s for a while.
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:14 am

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 9):
American had PTVs on their A300s for a while.

figures. When I have to fly aa, their gone...
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 12:32 am

If I remember it correctly, AA's first system on 707s (late sixties) was a videoplayer (huge, in the cockpit where the second jumpseat had been) that fed small TVs between the FC seats and scattered overhead in coach. Version 2 was film based, with a continuous loop film that went all the way down one side of the cabin, crossed over, and went back up the other side to return to the drive unit. Projection units with self-contained screens were scattered through the cabin overhead, and audio from each projector was fed to the appropriate seats. Quite a lash-up, but it worked. Probably VCR based systems followed this.
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:42 am

Geez that America West plane with all the disabled PTVs is kindof unprofessional looking.
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 1:58 am

Kuwait airways had them on the A300/A310s in 1994...
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:28 am

I remember Mexicana good old days with PTV on all their 727's and DC-10's, when they introduced the colorful tails... those were the sweet old days of traveling with MX, and their Aztec Golden Service!!!
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:56 am

Does anyone have photos of any of these old PTV systems... they sound really interesting!
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:05 am

Quoting CRFLY (Reply 14):
I remember Mexicana good old days with PTV on all their 727's

Oh ok so it wasn't a dream! I have this vague memory of flying aboard a Mexicana 727 watching The Pink Panther on a PTV.
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:03 pm

QF installed them on their 743's just a couple of years ago.
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:07 pm

VMI has PTVs on there IL-62s.

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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:55 am

I just found this:


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Flippin' heck! Look at the size of those!
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Thu Mar 23, 2006 12:25 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 19):
Flippin' heck! Look at the size of those!

If I'm not mistaken, that is an ex-EK aircraft?
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:25 am

Yep, I believe it used to be this:


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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:23 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 19):
VMI has PTVs on there IL-62s.

Did you mean VIM? This one: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0671197/M/
But these are not PTVs..
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:41 am


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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Thu Mar 23, 2006 8:20 am

Vyborg has PTVs on some of their IL-114s, but I'm not sure how old those are.

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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:09 am

Quoting GVWOW (Reply 24):
Vyborg has PTVs on some of their IL-114s, but I'm not sure how old those are.

These IL-114s are actually very new. It is just not very common to see PTVs on this type of aircraft. Which brings another question: what are the smallest planes with PTVs out there (bizjets excluded)?
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 28, 2006 8:32 am

what are the smallest planes with PTVs out there (bizjets excluded)?

I would have to assume Air Canada's EMB195's likely represent some of the smallest.

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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:00 am

Heres the old VS PTV system (named 'gallery')
(The VS ptv's)

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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:08 am

PIA has PTV's installed for its business class passengers onboard its old 747-200 Combis:



 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:17 am

Quoting GVWOW (Reply 24):

Heya,

Just to mention the IL-114 looks inside, really technical and everything is computerised, yet the design of the aircraft looks ancient.

Not a very 'successful' aircraft?

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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:11 pm

Quoting FlyKev (Reply 27):
Heres the old VS PTV system (named 'gallery')
(The VS ptv's)

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Haha!

I remember seeing MATRIX on one of these. For sure the movie lost a lot of its interest. I couldn't distinguish between the blue and red pills.  Silly

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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:44 am

Ah, I also remember those old VS screens on G-VLAX... 6? channels, of which about 3 actually worked on my flights... the headphone sound was fuzzy, and to make it worse I believe I was watching S Club 7 on them!  crazy 
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:58 am

Those HP PTVs are all gone now. They were sitting in there for the longest time unused, but with the new lighter blue seat covers, they all were removed.
 
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:13 am

Quoting JumboForever (Reply 30):
I remember seeing MATRIX on one of these. For sure the movie lost a lot of its interest. I couldn't distinguish between the blue and red pills.

Funniest thing I've read all day! Big grin
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RE: Old Planes With PTVs

Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:54 am

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 29):
Just to mention the IL-114 looks inside, really technical and everything is computerised, yet the design of the aircraft looks ancient.

Rather strangely, the PTVs in that picture where all showing the same thing, except a few that where off (or maybe not working). This may say something about the high-tech-ness of the IF system...

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 29):

Not a very 'successful' aircraft?

They certainly aren't selling like hotcakes  Smile. My theory is that there is almost no demand for a turboprop of that size.

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