planemannyc
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Engineers: Can A DC-10-30ER Do DAC-LHR Non-stop?

Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:18 am

A flight engineer for BG once told me that the DC-10-30 is not capable of flying DAC-LHR non-stop (thus having all west-bound European routes stop at DXB or JED) but I really wondered if that was the case.

Airport details:

Runway length
Zia Airport's runway is 10,498ft. Elevation AMSL 126 ft (38.4m).

Elevation
Elevation AMSL 126 ft (38.4 m) (which I find quite high for Dhaka, especially because Dhaka is just above sea level.


Temperature
Average Temp
Year 79 deg
Jan 67
Feb 72
Mar 80
Apr 83
May 84
Jun 84
Jul 84
Aug 85
Sep 84
Oct 82
Nov 76
Dec 69

(Avg High 85, Avg Low 73, with indv month avg hi of 89, highest on record as 103, indv month low avg is 53, with lowest as 49)

Precipitation
Avg prep is 77.9 inches, and avg number of days higher than 90F/32C is 91 days.

Distance
Great Circle Mapper has the following:
DAC (23°50'36"N 90°23'52"E) LHR (51°28'39"N 00°27'41"W) 4989 mi

(of course, the flight routing would most likely be longer going through more established ATC routes:

DAC (23°50'36"N 90°23'52"E) KHI (24°54'24"N 67°09'39"E) 1465 mi
KHI (24°54'24"N 67°09'39"E) KWI (29°13'36"N 47°58'08"E) 1218 mi
KWI (29°13'36"N 47°58'08"E) AMM (31°43'21"N 35°59'36"E) 735 mi
AMM (31°43'21"N 35°59'36"E) IST (40°58'37"N 28°49'16"E) 752 mi
IST (40°58'37"N 28°49'16"E) VIE (48°06'37"N 16°34'11"E) 779 mi
VIE (48°06'37"N 16°34'11"E) MUC (48°21'14"N 11°47'10"E) 221 mi
MUC (48°21'14"N 11°47'10"E) LHR (51°28'39"N 00°27'41"W) 587 mi
Total: 5757 mi

With this info, can a flight planner / engineer tell us if the DC-10-30ER can fly non-stop from Dhaka to London?

Best,

Wasim / Planemannyc

[Edited 2006-03-08 00:25:12]
 
LAXintl
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RE: Engineers: Can A DC-10-30ER Do DAC-LHR Non-stop?

Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:07 am

To make it simple, sure the aircraft can go nonstop, however the question is more of what type of payload you are looking at.

DAC-LHR is almost 5000miles on a great circle routing, longer if you cannot secure all the overflight rights and must take the longer route as you made mention.

So the answer to your question is yes, but with a restricted payload likely making the service uneconomical.
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airA380
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RE: Engineers: Can A DC-10-30ER Do DAC-LHR Non-stop?

Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:18 am

I have been on Biman DC-10-30ER from LHR to DAC but not DAC to LHR. frankly I think the dc10 series are cash cow and it should be put down gently and replace it with 772 or a343
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VEEREF
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RE: Engineers: Can A DC-10-30ER Do DAC-LHR Non-stop?

Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:31 am

Quoting AirA380 (Reply 2):
frankly I think the dc10 series are cash cow and it should be put down gently and replace it with 772 or a343

Ha small correction a "cash cow" is generally refered to as something that makes money on a regular basis. I think you might have meant "money pit"?

Correct the aircraft could easily make it nonstop. From that field elevation however the ride would be very quiet since there would be little or no pax or cargo onboard. We have the same problem coming out of Quito on our DC10's. Going to Miami, we can carry either fuel or cargo. So naturally we will put on the cargo and hop down to Guyaquil at sea level for the fuel.
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airA380
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RE: Engineers: Can A DC-10-30ER Do DAC-LHR Non-stop?

Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:37 am

yeah i meant "Money pit".
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