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What Does Non Rev Mean?

Thu Mar 09, 2006 11:55 pm

Hi,

I have only recently joined a.net but have always been an avid reader!
One term that is used here- particularly by Americans, is "Non Rev". I haven't got a clue what it means and I don't half feel stupid having to ask, but if anyone could shed some light on the phrase, I'd appreciate it.

There's even a user called Non Rev King! My mind has been in overdrive and my latest theory is that it's when a plane takes off with less than full throttle (Non Rev- as in "revving" up an engine?". Someone, put me out of my misery!

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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:01 am

Non-Rev means Non-Revenue Passenger. This is someone who is not paying for their seat.

Most likely this person works for the airline, or is related to someone who does in some way.

I am a flight attendant for an airline, and my travel benefits allow me to fly for free (so, I'm a non-revenue passenger) as long as their is a seat available.

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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:23 am

I see! I was completely out then! I guess alot of people don't pay for their tickets, then, because I've heard alot of talking about travelling "Non Rev". Lucky! Thanks
- Alec
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Raffik (Thread starter):
my latest theory is that it's when a plane takes off with less than full throttle (Non Rev- as in "revving" up an engine?".

lol
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:37 am

Quoting Raffik (Thread starter):
I haven't got a clue what it means and I don't half feel stupid having to ask,

That's what this forum is for, and there's no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers!
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:01 am

Thanks for your replies- I feel embarrased, but I have been educated and can actually grasp the whole concept- possibly like standy but for crew using their concessions?
My Mum used to work as a FA for a small airline noone has heard of called BAF- Flying out of Southend around Europe and we used to get free flights, but she never called it "Non Rev"- possibly more of an American term than British?
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:07 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 5):
but she never called it "Non Rev"- possibly more of an American term than British?

I think the British refer to it as staff travel.
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:46 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 5):
My Mum used to work as a FA for a small airline noone has heard of called BAF

You mean British Air Ferries? Did you get to do all your flights on the lovely Viscount? If so - you lucky so and so  Big grin


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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:08 am

Quoting Raffik (Thread starter):
There's even a user called Non Rev King!

There WAS a user called nonrevking  wink 

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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:19 am

What happened to him? I am intrigued!
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 4):
That's what this forum is for, and there's no such thing as a stupid question

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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:31 am

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 6):
but she never called it "Non Rev"- possibly more of an American term than British?

well when i talk about it i use the therm FREE ONE TICKET
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:35 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 2):
I see! I was completely out then! I guess alot of people don't pay for their tickets, then, because I've heard alot of talking about travelling "Non Rev". Lucky! Thanks

I read a statistic (yeah, yeah, I know) that 1 in 12 jobs in the US is related to transportation. Obviously that's not all aviation, but the "Big 6" US Legacy carriers all have 30-50 thousand plus employees... so, yeah, probably millions of people worldwide have some form of flight benefits.

I used to, then I turned 21...
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:46 am

Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 13):
I used to, then I turned 21...

LOL.
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:44 am

Correct me if I'm wrong (like I even need to say it on A.net), but non-rev can also apply to people traveling on FF points, coupons, etc. ANYONE who didn't pay cash for their ticket. Not sure if this is true for all airlines, but I know it is for some.

Also -- non-rev seats are not always stand-by. As with the examples above, and also employees for business-travel (or exec level), can RESERVE a non-rev seat (usually it depends on availability in a certain class, but nonetheless, it's a garanteed seat, not stand-by)
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:25 am

Quoting Dartland (Reply 15):
As with the examples above, and also employees for business-travel (or exec level), can RESERVE a non-rev seat (usually it depends on availability in a certain class, but nonetheless, it's a garanteed seat, not stand-by)

Airline employees traveling on company business do travel confirmed. However its is generally called "positive space" not "non-rev". The term non-rev is used to denote personal travel. That is not anything that is writen anywhere, but that is how it is used.
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:35 am

Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 16):
Airline employees traveling on company business do travel confirmed. However its is generally called "positive space" not "non-rev". The term non-rev is used to denote personal travel. That is not anything that is writen anywhere, but that is how it is used.

There's also the "Must Ride" classification for mechanics going to service planes, flight crews that have to get somewhere to fly a flight, etc.
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:56 am

Quoting Raffik (Reply 2):
I see! I was completely out then! I guess alot of people don't pay for their tickets, then, because I've heard alot of talking about travelling "Non Rev". Lucky! Thanks

Oh no!!! We pay.....

Working in a bussiness where 40 to 50% pay cuts are a everday thing. Not that I'm unhappy with what I do for work or with who I work for. Also, some airline make there employees pay a service fee and tax. And its a standby ticket, and no they don't pay for your room when you miss the flight.
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:08 am

NonRev=Non Revenue The widely accepted term for employee/dependent travel on air carriers although some now deceased carriers in recent history with waaay below cost fares could have been considered nonrevenue also...grin.

FF miles and such are not considered under the nonrev category.

FYI NonRev does not mean free...many carriers assess a charge of some type on their employee/dependent travel sometimes depending on class of service for instance.
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:38 pm

R AD75 tickets considered NONREV ?

R UA Buddy passes considered NONREV?
 
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:42 pm

Yes...these are considered NON REV. Any ticket which is on a standby basis and connected to an employee by means of consideration is catagorized as Non Revenue producing, which will not be counted in the CASM and RASM.
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RE: What Does Non Rev Mean?

Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:44 pm

Quoting Simpilicity (Reply 20):
R AD75 tickets considered NONREV ?

Airline employees receive ID75 tickets and travel agency employees recieve AD75 tickets. AD75 tickets are not standbye.

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